Wrestling fans

[Mindless]

Originally Posted by Babylon

The two videos were merely an example of the aforementioned over the top, childish gimmick shit that further proves wrestling is a cheap market targeted at children without the mental capacity to realize how stupid the shit that they're watching is.

I mean if you /really/ want I can go ahead and fill this thread up with horribly acted, over the top characters and clips that make all but people who have already bought into this childish "entertainment" cringe their complete asses off, but then you'd just respond with the exact same message with the exception of "two guys" being changed to however many I link.

Can you really not admit how b rated, cringeworthy and utterly just generic like 60% (and that's being super generous, too) of wrestling in itself is? Lol.

You're cherry picking examples in order to prove your theory. You can make anything look like shit doing that. Not even having the argument with you because you're either
A) Deliberately trolling. In which case I don't feed trolls
B) An MMA faggot trying to prove how much "better" his chosen entertainment is. In which case

Spoiler for roflmfao, have I got some bad news for you buddy:

It's a work you dumb shit. All those matches are predetermined.

C) You're just one of "those" guys who thinks he's better than people who enjoy any form of entertainment he doesn't and has to shout "STOP LIEKING WUT I DUNT LIEK" to get attention and show others how cool he is. In which case, see A.
D) You like dicks. In your butt and mouth. In that order. In which case, you're a faggot.

It's probably a combination of A and D, B and D, C and D, or D, D, D, and D.

[Mindless]

Originally Posted by Babylon

The two videos were merely an example of the aforementioned over the top, childish gimmick shit that further proves wrestling is a cheap market targeted at children without the mental capacity to realize how stupid the shit that they're watching is.

I mean if you /really/ want I can go ahead and fill this thread up with horribly acted, over the top characters and clips that make all but people who have already bought into this childish "entertainment" cringe their complete asses off, but then you'd just respond with the exact same message with the exception of "two guys" being changed to however many I link.

Can you really not admit how b rated, cringeworthy and utterly just generic like 60% (and that's being super generous, too) of wrestling in itself is? Lol.

You're cherry picking examples in order to prove your theory. You can make anything look like shit doing that. Not even having the argument with you because you're either
A) Deliberately trolling. In which case I don't feed trolls
B) An MMA faggot trying to prove how much "better" his chosen entertainment is. In which case

Spoiler for roflmfao, have I got some bad news for you buddy:

It's a work you dumb shit. All those matches are predetermined.

C) You're just one of "those" guys who thinks he's better than people who enjoy any form of entertainment he doesn't and has to shout "STOP LIEKING WUT I DUNT LIEK" to get attention and show others how cool he is. In which case, see A.
D) You like dicks. In your butt and mouth. In that order. In which case, you're a faggot.

It's probably a combination of A and D, B and D, C and D, or D, D, D, and D.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Mindless

You're cherry picking examples in order to prove your theory. You can make anything look like shit doing that. Not even having the argument with you because you're either
A) Deliberately trolling. In which case I don't feed trolls
B) An MMA faggot trying to prove how much "better" his chosen entertainment is. In which case

Spoiler for roflmfao, have I got some bad news for you buddy:

It's a work you dumb shit. All those matches are predetermined.

C) You're just one of "those" guys who thinks he's better than people who enjoy any form of entertainment he doesn't and has to shout "STOP LIEKING WUT I DUNT LIEK" to get attention and show others how cool he is. In which case, see A.
D) You like dicks. In your butt and mouth. In that order. In which case, you're a faggot.

It's probably a combination of A and D, B and D, C and D, or D, D, D, and D.

I'm not any of those things, how the fuck are you going to attempt to dismantle my argument then make four baseless assumptions about me? You're far less intelligent than I previously thought.

I'd explain my actual point of view to you, but it's becoming quite obvious that you take wrestling of all things super seriously, and having a real conversation about it with you is inherently futile.

*Waits for you to reply again after telling me you are finished arguing with me, because faggots like you do that shit constantly*


Now EtH, on the other hand, I could have a real discussion with.


@EtH's vid:

choreography was on point as always with the moves and such, but you can still obviously see how fake as fuck it is & that's the thing that really bothers me about it.

There's no natural feel to it, I mean you know for a 100% FACT it's staged and no one is, most of the time, even really getting hurt. I also understand that it's simple entertainment, but my question is /how/ is it entertaining to you?

With wrestling every single factor is predefined. There's no spontaneity, nothing is natural, nothing is even real. 80% of the time no one gets hurt and at the end of the day it's just a bunch of dudes on a white mat flipping around aimlessly trying to make it seem like they are hurting someone else.

What do you personally enjoy about that? I mean, with actual acting in TV shows/movies they're at least, almost 98% of the time (in AAA films, at least) actively covering up anything that could make it look fake, using hundreds of thousands of dollar budgets for effects & greenscreens and hiring the best actors on the planet to portray their story. So, maybe if wrestling was super realistic and you couldn't see the fact hardly no 'moves' even touch the other person half of the time, and the other half it is in a manner obviously meant to deal the least amount of damage, maybe then would I be able to immerse myself in it and just enjoy the raw entertainment value of it, but that's demonstrably not the case.

So, why do you personally enjoy wrestling?

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Mindless

You're cherry picking examples in order to prove your theory. You can make anything look like shit doing that. Not even having the argument with you because you're either
A) Deliberately trolling. In which case I don't feed trolls
B) An MMA faggot trying to prove how much "better" his chosen entertainment is. In which case

Spoiler for roflmfao, have I got some bad news for you buddy:

It's a work you dumb shit. All those matches are predetermined.

C) You're just one of "those" guys who thinks he's better than people who enjoy any form of entertainment he doesn't and has to shout "STOP LIEKING WUT I DUNT LIEK" to get attention and show others how cool he is. In which case, see A.
D) You like dicks. In your butt and mouth. In that order. In which case, you're a faggot.

It's probably a combination of A and D, B and D, C and D, or D, D, D, and D.

I'm not any of those things, how the fuck are you going to attempt to dismantle my argument then make four baseless assumptions about me? You're far less intelligent than I previously thought.

I'd explain my actual point of view to you, but it's becoming quite obvious that you take wrestling of all things super seriously, and having a real conversation about it with you is inherently futile.

*Waits for you to reply again after telling me you are finished arguing with me, because faggots like you do that shit constantly*


Now EtH, on the other hand, I could have a real discussion with.


@EtH's vid:

choreography was on point as always with the moves and such, but you can still obviously see how fake as fuck it is & that's the thing that really bothers me about it.

There's no natural feel to it, I mean you know for a 100% FACT it's staged and no one is, most of the time, even really getting hurt. I also understand that it's simple entertainment, but my question is /how/ is it entertaining to you?

With wrestling every single factor is predefined. There's no spontaneity, nothing is natural, nothing is even real. 80% of the time no one gets hurt and at the end of the day it's just a bunch of dudes on a white mat flipping around aimlessly trying to make it seem like they are hurting someone else.

What do you personally enjoy about that? I mean, with actual acting in TV shows/movies they're at least, almost 98% of the time (in AAA films, at least) actively covering up anything that could make it look fake, using hundreds of thousands of dollar budgets for effects & greenscreens and hiring the best actors on the planet to portray their story. So, maybe if wrestling was super realistic and you couldn't see the fact hardly no 'moves' even touch the other person half of the time, and the other half it is in a manner obviously meant to deal the least amount of damage, maybe then would I be able to immerse myself in it and just enjoy the raw entertainment value of it, but that's demonstrably not the case.

So, why do you personally enjoy wrestling?

Originally Posted by Babylon

@EtH's vid:

choreography was on point as always with the moves and such, but you can still obviously see how fake as fuck it is & that's the thing that really bothers me about it.

There's no natural feel to it, I mean you know for a 100% FACT it's staged and no one is, most of the time, even really getting hurt. I also understand that it's simple entertainment, but my question is /how/ is it entertaining to you?

With wrestling every single factor is predefined. There's no spontaneity, nothing is natural, nothing is even real. 80% of the time no one gets hurt and at the end of the day it's just a bunch of dudes on a white mat flipping around aimlessly trying to make it seem like they are hurting someone else.

What do you personally enjoy about that? I mean, with actual acting in TV shows/movies they're at least, almost 98% of the time (in AAA films, at least) actively covering up anything that could make it look fake, using hundreds of thousands of dollar budgets for effects & greenscreens and hiring the best actors on the planet to portray their story. So, maybe if wrestling was super realistic and you couldn't see the fact hardly no 'moves' even touch the other person half of the time, and the other half it is in a manner obviously meant to deal the least amount of damage, maybe then would I be able to immerse myself in it and just enjoy the raw entertainment value of it, but that's demonstrably not the case.

So, why do you personally enjoy wrestling?

You know it's not real because it's not. Rocky isn't real either, yet it's one of the greatest film series' of all time. The punches look fake as fuck in Rocky, does that change anything?

Wrestling, a lot of the time, is like a cross between television shows with their storylines, films like Rocky with their fighting and daredevil stunts with it's high flying. I don't really see what's not to like about all of that.

80% of the time no on gets hurt? What an insanely dangerous sport that would be. One in Five gets hurt? FUUUUUUCK THAT. You don't want the dudes to get hurt.

You get immersed in the show. You talk about the money they put into green screens and shit, yeah, in 2015. Does that mean classic films aren't still good? Don't you still get immersed despite knowing this T-Rex isn't ACTUALLY trying to eat Jeff Goldbloom? I don't look for guys getting full forced punches in the face when I watch wrestling, just like I don't look for a 450 splash when I watch mixed martial arts. They are separate things.

Also if you want to talk about "doesn't look real"...

CZW BEST OF 2013 - YouTube

CZW BEST OF 2013 - YouTube

For the record I think CZW is fucking disgusting and an absolute disgrace, but if you're looking for "real", just know when watching this video that CZW would laugh in your face is you suggested using fake blood.

Originally Posted by Babylon

@EtH's vid:

choreography was on point as always with the moves and such, but you can still obviously see how fake as fuck it is & that's the thing that really bothers me about it.

There's no natural feel to it, I mean you know for a 100% FACT it's staged and no one is, most of the time, even really getting hurt. I also understand that it's simple entertainment, but my question is /how/ is it entertaining to you?

With wrestling every single factor is predefined. There's no spontaneity, nothing is natural, nothing is even real. 80% of the time no one gets hurt and at the end of the day it's just a bunch of dudes on a white mat flipping around aimlessly trying to make it seem like they are hurting someone else.

What do you personally enjoy about that? I mean, with actual acting in TV shows/movies they're at least, almost 98% of the time (in AAA films, at least) actively covering up anything that could make it look fake, using hundreds of thousands of dollar budgets for effects & greenscreens and hiring the best actors on the planet to portray their story. So, maybe if wrestling was super realistic and you couldn't see the fact hardly no 'moves' even touch the other person half of the time, and the other half it is in a manner obviously meant to deal the least amount of damage, maybe then would I be able to immerse myself in it and just enjoy the raw entertainment value of it, but that's demonstrably not the case.

So, why do you personally enjoy wrestling?

You know it's not real because it's not. Rocky isn't real either, yet it's one of the greatest film series' of all time. The punches look fake as fuck in Rocky, does that change anything?

Wrestling, a lot of the time, is like a cross between television shows with their storylines, films like Rocky with their fighting and daredevil stunts with it's high flying. I don't really see what's not to like about all of that.

80% of the time no on gets hurt? What an insanely dangerous sport that would be. One in Five gets hurt? FUUUUUUCK THAT. You don't want the dudes to get hurt.

You get immersed in the show. You talk about the money they put into green screens and shit, yeah, in 2015. Does that mean classic films aren't still good? Don't you still get immersed despite knowing this T-Rex isn't ACTUALLY trying to eat Jeff Goldbloom? I don't look for guys getting full forced punches in the face when I watch wrestling, just like I don't look for a 450 splash when I watch mixed martial arts. They are separate things.

Also if you want to talk about "doesn't look real"...

CZW BEST OF 2013 - YouTube

CZW BEST OF 2013 - YouTube

For the record I think CZW is fucking disgusting and an absolute disgrace, but if you're looking for "real", just know when watching this video that CZW would laugh in your face is you suggested using fake blood.

What was that?

You Tube

You Tube

What was that?

You Tube

You Tube

[Manhattan]

@Babylon

[Manhattan]

@Babylon

[Student]

I don't really fuck with wresting but going into a box to catch a beatdown when you're set up to lose is pretty respectable. The storylines imo are corny though.

[Student]

I don't really fuck with wresting but going into a box to catch a beatdown when you're set up to lose is pretty respectable. The storylines imo are corny though.

ALL storylines are corny though?

ALL storylines are corny though?