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Here is an idea, Tinkering with the points system, this can increase virality and engagement,
the only way you can get points is by winning battles and voting.
If you have a system where you have another element of gaining points not just voting but also adding disputes, you might say what are disputes, that is what a moderator can decide. Lets say you go to a battle and sure there may be a battle with 6 votes, and more then likely 6 comments, it can be more to it then that, well if one person can get disputes in their comments, not between the battlers but between commenters, saying this is why I think he won, this is why I think he lost, this is why I think this bar is better then this bar, and so on and so forth It will make the engagement go up, that will make their votes go up, overall gaining them more points. So when you look at the battles it says Votes, Comments. I think there should also be a Disputes, added to there. The disputes can be added to the points system to where if a battle has 7 votes 24 comments and 3 disputes, the battler who wins can get more points then if the battle had 0 disputes. This can also add to a battlers notoriety, and might change the way the site views battles. If they have 6 battles with 70 disputes, there points should be sky high so that they are the top of the ranking list, even higher than battlers with 40 or 50 battles. this will make more and more people want to battle them also increasing engagement. If a person has 3 battles 0 losses and 300 disputes on battles, this will make that person a top battler. It means the way they structure their bars is more entertaining and brings out a bigger audience or crowd, generating more of a buzz and noise, if you see a battle with a ton of disputes you are probably going to want to check it out and add your input. Another idea I think is less exciting but is still worth mentioning, recording those stats for display on profile and forum post, so it would say disputes on battles: underneath the join date. you should also be able to hide that if you want too.
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Here is an idea, Tinkering with the points system, this can increase virality and engagement,
the only way you can get points is by winning battles and voting.
If you have a system where you have another element of gaining points not just voting but also adding disputes, you might say what are disputes, that is what a moderator can decide. Lets say you go to a battle and sure there may be a battle with 6 votes, and more then likely 6 comments, it can be more to it then that, well if one person can get disputes in their comments, not between the battlers but between commenters, saying this is why I think he won, this is why I think he lost, this is why I think this bar is better then this bar, and so on and so forth It will make the engagement go up, that will make their votes go up, overall gaining them more points. So when you look at the battles it says Votes, Comments. I think there should also be a Disputes, added to there. The disputes can be added to the points system to where if a battle has 7 votes 24 comments and 3 disputes, the battler who wins can get more points then if the battle had 0 disputes. This can also add to a battlers notoriety, and might change the way the site views battles. If they have 6 battles with 70 disputes, there points should be sky high so that they are the top of the ranking list, even higher than battlers with 40 or 50 battles. this will make more and more people want to battle them also increasing engagement. If a person has 3 battles 0 losses and 300 disputes on battles, this will make that person a top battler. It means the way they structure their bars is more entertaining and brings out a bigger audience or crowd, generating more of a buzz and noise, if you see a battle with a ton of disputes you are probably going to want to check it out and add your input. Another idea I think is less exciting but is still worth mentioning, recording those stats for display on profile and forum post, so it would say disputes on battles: underneath the join date. you should also be able to hide that if you want too.
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Here is an idea, Tinkering with the points system, this can increase virality and engagement,
the only way you can get points is by winning battles and voting.
If you have a system where you have another element of gaining points not just voting but also adding disputes, you might say what are disputes, that is what a moderator can decide. Lets say you go to a battle and sure there may be a battle with 6 votes, and more then likely 6 comments, it can be more to it then that, well if one person can get disputes in their comments, not between the battlers but between commenters, saying this is why I think he won, this is why I think he lost, this is why I think this bar is better then this bar, and so on and so forth It will make the engagement go up, that will make their votes go up, overall gaining them more points. So when you look at the battles it says Votes, Comments. I think there should also be a Disputes, added to there. The disputes can be added to the points system to where if a battle has 7 votes 24 comments and 3 disputes, the battler who wins can get more points then if the battle had 0 disputes. This can also add to a battlers notoriety, and might change the way the site views battles. If they have 6 battles with 70 disputes, there points should be sky high so that they are the top of the ranking list, even higher than battlers with 40 or 50 battles. this will make more and more people want to battle them also increasing engagement. If a person has 3 battles 0 losses and 300 disputes on battles, this will make that person a top battler. It means the way they structure their bars is more entertaining and brings out a bigger audience or crowd, generating more of a buzz and noise, if you see a battle with a ton of disputes you are probably going to want to check it out and add your input. Another idea I think is less exciting but is still worth mentioning, recording those stats for display on profile and forum post, so it would say disputes on battles: underneath the join date. you should also be able to hide that if you want too.
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Here is an idea, Tinkering with the points system, this can increase virality and engagement,
the only way you can get points is by winning battles and voting.
If you have a system where you have another element of gaining points not just voting but also adding disputes, you might say what are disputes, that is what a moderator can decide. Lets say you go to a battle and sure there may be a battle with 6 votes, and more then likely 6 comments, it can be more to it then that, well if one person can get disputes in their comments, not between the battlers but between commenters, saying this is why I think he won, this is why I think he lost, this is why I think this bar is better then this bar, and so on and so forth It will make the engagement go up, that will make their votes go up, overall gaining them more points. So when you look at the battles it says Votes, Comments. I think there should also be a Disputes, added to there. The disputes can be added to the points system to where if a battle has 7 votes 24 comments and 3 disputes, the battler who wins can get more points then if the battle had 0 disputes. This can also add to a battlers notoriety, and might change the way the site views battles. If they have 6 battles with 70 disputes, there points should be sky high so that they are the top of the ranking list, even higher than battlers with 40 or 50 battles. this will make more and more people want to battle them also increasing engagement. If a person has 3 battles 0 losses and 300 disputes on battles, this will make that person a top battler. It means the way they structure their bars is more entertaining and brings out a bigger audience or crowd, generating more of a buzz and noise, if you see a battle with a ton of disputes you are probably going to want to check it out and add your input. Another idea I think is less exciting but is still worth mentioning, recording those stats for display on profile and forum post, so it would say disputes on battles: underneath the join date. you should also be able to hide that if you want too.
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yea i dont think this should be a proposal, this should just be done. get rid of the dumb shit that isn't used.
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yea i dont think this should be a proposal, this should just be done. get rid of the dumb shit that isn't used.
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This is a list of my proposal to improve Letsbeef from an in-site context.
We know a lot of modifications need to be done as far as coding, mobile-friendly etc etc but this is strictly to improve / make the site more appealing.
1. Usertitles Deleted
So im in two minds over this point, so my proposal is one of these two options:
A) All usertitles, besides staff title & HoF'er are removed, and only titles won as of Jan 2022 onwards will be awarded (This is to work along side a much more reduced tourney schedule which i'll propose later).
B) All usertitles are to receive an expiry period of 5 years. This excludes HoF & staff titles.
A section can be put on a users profile (in place of the award system perhaps) to permanently display usertitles.
I think when you see 20+ people with 5 titles apiece it reduces the desire to win them. When i started on this site 5% of users had titles, now it seems like 50% do.
2. Reduced Tournament Schedule
I think we should strip it back to the basics. Two tournament max a year, One a Grand Championship perhaps?
I think we need tournaments to become more special and unique. If you have one / two every month it gets too much.
I think one tournament a year should definitely have a cash prize.
3. Forum Cleanse
Ive started this discussion here: https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172808
Strip the site back, make less forums, less clutter.
4. Close the Unranked & Exclusive Battle Sections
Again, too much clutter, and never used.
5. Audio Battles - Written Only
Freestyle battles are generally abused i find, let's make all battles officially written. Less drama that way.
6. Cypher Sections Reduced
Audio section closed (Audio cyphers are pretty much tracks right?)
Text section reduced / changed. A solo most votes top 20 list, a solo most recent top 20 list. Thats it.
7. Rankings Reset
Again im a little torn about this, but i think as of Dec 31st 2021 the ranking should be frozen (and moved somewhere for prosperity, HoF perhaps?) but ultimately reset as of Jan 1st 2022 to encourage the active members to get involved.
8. Ratings Removed on Battles & Tracks
Everyone rates every track a 10, every cypher a ten etc etc, lets get rid of them. I think an upvote / downvote system would be just as effective.
And with battles, i think you should vote for a winner only. Rating i think are redundant when an expo is already required.
9. No Title / Name Reinstation Upon Account Deletion
Simply - If you request your account is deleted, you lose the username and titles permanently. Deleting accounts is a massive issue for the site, i think we need to curb the occurrence of it as much as possible.
Perhaps signing a disclaimer upon account registration would help.
Have a think and drop your feedback on these points. There is still time to save LB, but perhaps some bold actions are needed.
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One other thing I was thinking about is all the unused accounts that have been made taking name availability away from people. I think anyone who hasn’t accessed their account in over 10 years should be deleted. Again for names sake and less clutter when trying to create closed battle.
I agree with the titles thing. Strip all titles but I’d keep GC and HOF and Staff
GC was the only title to win back in the day. And moving forward it being the main tournament every year users should be able to retain their GC titles ..
I got some other ideas as well but it’s all along the same lines as what you’ve stated rule
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Originally Posted by RULE
This is a list of my proposal to improve Letsbeef from an in-site context.
We know a lot of modifications need to be done as far as coding, mobile-friendly etc etc but this is strictly to improve / make the site more appealing.
1. Usertitles Deleted
So im in two minds over this point, so my proposal is one of these two options:
A) All usertitles, besides staff title & HoF'er are removed, and only titles won as of Jan 2022 onwards will be awarded (This is to work along side a much more reduced tourney schedule which i'll propose later).
B) All usertitles are to receive an expiry period of 5 years. This excludes HoF & staff titles.
A section can be put on a users profile (in place of the award system perhaps) to permanently display usertitles.
I think when you see 20+ people with 5 titles apiece it reduces the desire to win them. When i started on this site 5% of users had titles, now it seems like 50% do.
2. Reduced Tournament Schedule
I think we should strip it back to the basics. Two tournament max a year, One a Grand Championship perhaps?
I think we need tournaments to become more special and unique. If you have one / two every month it gets too much.
I think one tournament a year should definitely have a cash prize.
3. Forum Cleanse
Ive started this discussion here: https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172808
Strip the site back, make less forums, less clutter.
4. Close the Unranked & Exclusive Battle Sections
Again, too much clutter, and never used.
5. Audio Battles - Written Only
Freestyle battles are generally abused i find, let's make all battles officially written. Less drama that way.
6. Cypher Sections Reduced
Audio section closed (Audio cyphers are pretty much tracks right?)
Text section reduced / changed. A solo most votes top 20 list, a solo most recent top 20 list. Thats it.
7. Rankings Reset
Again im a little torn about this, but i think as of Dec 31st 2021 the ranking should be frozen (and moved somewhere for prosperity, HoF perhaps?) but ultimately reset as of Jan 1st 2022 to encourage the active members to get involved.
8. Ratings Removed on Battles & Tracks
Everyone rates every track a 10, every cypher a ten etc etc, lets get rid of them. I think an upvote / downvote system would be just as effective.
And with battles, i think you should vote for a winner only. Rating i think are redundant when an expo is already required.
9. No Title / Name Reinstation Upon Account Deletion
Simply - If you request your account is deleted, you lose the username and titles permanently. Deleting accounts is a massive issue for the site, i think we need to curb the occurrence of it as much as possible.
Perhaps signing a disclaimer upon account registration would help.
Have a think and drop your feedback on these points. There is still time to save LB, but perhaps some bold actions are needed.
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One other thing I was thinking about is all the unused accounts that have been made taking name availability away from people. I think anyone who hasn’t accessed their account in over 10 years should be deleted. Again for names sake and less clutter when trying to create closed battle.
I agree with the titles thing. Strip all titles but I’d keep GC and HOF and Staff
GC was the only title to win back in the day. And moving forward it being the main tournament every year users should be able to retain their GC titles ..
I got some other ideas as well but it’s all along the same lines as what you’ve stated rule
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Yall better not touch my fucking titles lmao
And if you got the appetite to touch my titles, you better get the taste out ya mouth
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Yall better not touch my fucking titles lmao
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One other thing I was thinking about is all the unused accounts that have been made taking name availability away from people. I think anyone who hasn’t accessed their account in over 10 years should be deleted. Again for names sake and less clutter when trying to create closed battle.
I agree with the titles thing. Strip all titles but I’d keep GC and HOF and Staff
GC was the only title to win back in the day. And moving forward it being the main tournament every year users should be able to retain their GC titles ..
I got some other ideas as well but it’s all along the same lines as what you’ve stated rule
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One other thing I was thinking about is all the unused accounts that have been made taking name availability away from people. I think anyone who hasn’t accessed their account in over 10 years should be deleted. Again for names sake and less clutter when trying to create closed battle.
I agree with the titles thing. Strip all titles but I’d keep GC and HOF and Staff
GC was the only title to win back in the day. And moving forward it being the main tournament every year users should be able to retain their GC titles ..
I got some other ideas as well but it’s all along the same lines as what you’ve stated rule
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Ngl I've been bitching about having a "Spring Throwdown" title but this dude legit the LB Winter Olympics champion lmao
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Ngl I've been bitching about having a "Spring Throwdown" title but this dude legit the LB Winter Olympics champion lmao
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