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Well according to the bible, Jesus can’t be God, as God is all knowing and in Matthew 24:36
Jesus says: "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only." This proves that Jesus is not God because if he was God he would be all knowing and he would know of the hour.
And again in John 5:30 Jesus says: “By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.”
Here you can see that Jesus and God are not one Jesus says: “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying on his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”
In Mark 10:18 Jesus says: “Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.” Here again he creates a separation between himself and God as he says “why do you call me good” then he goes on to say “No one is good, except God alone” This is 100% proof that Jesus is not God from the bible.

Also Jesus never said he was God nowhere in the bible.

So Streetz what makes you say that Jesus is God? By the way I’m not trying to disrespect you in any shape or form, I just want your point of view.
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Well according to the bible, Jesus can’t be God, as God is all knowing and in Matthew 24:36
Jesus says: "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only." This proves that Jesus is not God because if he was God he would be all knowing and he would know of the hour.
And again in John 5:30 Jesus says: “By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.”
Here you can see that Jesus and God are not one Jesus says: “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying on his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”
In Mark 10:18 Jesus says: “Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.” Here again he creates a separation between himself and God as he says “why do you call me good” then he goes on to say “No one is good, except God alone” This is 100% proof that Jesus is not God from the bible.

Also Jesus never said he was God nowhere in the bible.

So Streetz what makes you say that Jesus is God? By the way I’m not trying to disrespect you in any shape or form, I just want your point of view.
Jesus came to earth as a man, which is why he had limitations.
 
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Well Moses, a picture of the human brain cell is almost identical to the galaxy



We are part of the Universe. The Universe is what created us and anyone that thinks otherwise is in denial. We ALL start off as matter and micro organisms. The common bond we share as humanity is that we originate from space matter. God is referred to as the Universe by a fuckload of belief systems... Take Taoism for example; they describe the Tao as being an omnipresent force that moves with the grace of water down a river. They liken the Tao to the Universe on many occassion and tell their believers that one cannot describe the Tao because it is something that cannot be described. You cannot describe the powers of the Universe that work with/against us because we don't understand how it works fully.


What I do know is that visualization is 1,000% real shit and that we attract our thoughts. To be more specific as to what I believe in, look up the Universal Laws

Law of Karma, Law of Vibration, Law of Attraction

That's the only real shit you'll come across aside from meditation. All the other shit is false and corrupted doctrine written by mere men

& Unlike Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc, that stick to a belief system for inner peace because they were brainwashed and taught that they were damned to hell

I stick to my belief system because the power of my brain is amazing and it has proven to be so these past few months. I obtained what I perceive as success and it wasn't because of going to church or praying to God. It was because of meditation and visualization

constantly telling myself I'll hit X goal and doing X actions that'll help get me to X goal

That's the real secret of life. It's something that every successful person knows. They might not describe it the same way or call it the law of attraction

But you should give your brain more credit than you do any religion or any God

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Well Moses, a picture of the human brain cell is almost identical to the galaxy



We are part of the Universe. The Universe is what created us and anyone that thinks otherwise is in denial. We ALL start off as matter and micro organisms. The common bond we share as humanity is that we originate from space matter. God is referred to as the Universe by a fuckload of belief systems... Take Taoism for example; they describe the Tao as being an omnipresent force that moves with the grace of water down a river. They liken the Tao to the Universe on many occassion and tell their believers that one cannot describe the Tao because it is something that cannot be described. You cannot describe the powers of the Universe that work with/against us because we don't understand how it works fully.


What I do know is that visualization is 1,000% real shit and that we attract our thoughts. To be more specific as to what I believe in, look up the Universal Laws

Law of Karma, Law of Vibration, Law of Attraction

That's the only real shit you'll come across aside from meditation. All the other shit is false and corrupted doctrine written by mere men

& Unlike Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc, that stick to a belief system for inner peace because they were brainwashed and taught that they were damned to hell

I stick to my belief system because the power of my brain is amazing and it has proven to be so these past few months. I obtained what I perceive as success and it wasn't because of going to church or praying to God. It was because of meditation and visualization

constantly telling myself I'll hit X goal and doing X actions that'll help get me to X goal

That's the real secret of life. It's something that every successful person knows. They might not describe it the same way or call it the law of attraction

But you should give your brain more credit than you do any religion or any God

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Well Moses, a picture of the human brain cell is almost identical to the galaxy



We are part of the Universe. The Universe is what created us and anyone that thinks otherwise is in denial. We ALL start off as matter and micro organisms. The common bond we share as humanity is that we originate from space matter. God is referred to as the Universe by a fuckload of belief systems... Take Taoism for example; they describe the Tao as being an omnipresent force that moves with the grace of water down a river. They liken the Tao to the Universe on many occassion and tell their believers that one cannot describe the Tao because it is something that cannot be described. You cannot describe the powers of the Universe that work with/against us because we don't understand how it works fully.


What I do know is that visualization is 1,000% real shit and that we attract our thoughts. To be more specific as to what I believe in, look up the Universal Laws

Law of Karma, Law of Vibration, Law of Attraction

That's the only real shit you'll come across aside from meditation. All the other shit is false and corrupted doctrine written by mere men
Yes of course we resemble the universe, but what created the universe? .. The "steady state model".... but there is evidence that the universe had a beginning, Einstein says it best " His biggest mistake in science, was introducing a cosmological constant".... The universe had a beginning , aka "the expanding universe", the equations of general relativity by Einstein shows that the universe was constant, until he proved it wasn't. It expanded, typically people said the universe was just there, didnt have a creator, your theory pulse means that the universe came from nothing..... And by nothing.... but that makes no sense, because "out of nothing, nothing comes".....

So whatever begins to exist has a cause
the universe begins to exist, because it is an expanding universe and had to have a beginning,
therefore it has a cause

If you continue your research, you will find out some startling things about your universe you call God.... which has been proven to be created.. if you dont believe in the big bang, what do you believe, because your God is the universe, but who/what is your universes God, because it was infact created.

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Well Moses, a picture of the human brain cell is almost identical to the galaxy



We are part of the Universe. The Universe is what created us and anyone that thinks otherwise is in denial. We ALL start off as matter and micro organisms. The common bond we share as humanity is that we originate from space matter. God is referred to as the Universe by a fuckload of belief systems... Take Taoism for example; they describe the Tao as being an omnipresent force that moves with the grace of water down a river. They liken the Tao to the Universe on many occassion and tell their believers that one cannot describe the Tao because it is something that cannot be described. You cannot describe the powers of the Universe that work with/against us because we don't understand how it works fully.


What I do know is that visualization is 1,000% real shit and that we attract our thoughts. To be more specific as to what I believe in, look up the Universal Laws

Law of Karma, Law of Vibration, Law of Attraction

That's the only real shit you'll come across aside from meditation. All the other shit is false and corrupted doctrine written by mere men
Yes of course we resemble the universe, but what created the universe? .. The "steady state model".... but there is evidence that the universe had a beginning, Einstein says it best " His biggest mistake in science, was introducing a cosmological constant".... The universe had a beginning , aka "the expanding universe", the equations of general relativity by Einstein shows that the universe was constant, until he proved it wasn't. It expanded, typically people said the universe was just there, didnt have a creator, your theory pulse means that the universe came from nothing..... And by nothing.... but that makes no sense, because "out of nothing, nothing comes".....

So whatever begins to exist has a cause
the universe begins to exist, because it is an expanding universe and had to have a beginning,
therefore it has a cause

If you continue your research, you will find out some startling things about your universe you call God.... which has been proven to be created.. if you dont believe in the big bang, what do you believe, because your God is the universe, but who/what is your universes God, because it was infact created.

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Yes of course we resemble the universe, but what created the universe? .. The "steady state model".... but there is evidence that the universe had a begining, Einstein says it best " His biggest mistake in science, was introducing a cosmological constant".... The universe had a begining , aka "the expanding universe", the equations of general relativity by Einstein shows that there was a universe was constant, until he proved it wasn't. It expanded, typically people said the universe was just there, didnt have a creator, your theory pulse means that the universe came from nothing..... And by nothing.... but that makes no sense, because "out of nothing, nothing comes".....

So whatever begins to exist has a cause
the universe begins to exist
therefore it has a cause

If you continue your research, you will find out some startling things about your universe you call God.... which has been proven to be created.

I think Pulse is not too far off in a lot of ways.

I think The universe did have a start tho 'big bang' if you will....

What I believe is everything was the same a huge void of energy waiting to be unleashed. I think the second this nothingness first had consciousness the big bang happened.
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Yes of course we resemble the universe, but what created the universe? .. The "steady state model".... but there is evidence that the universe had a begining, Einstein says it best " His biggest mistake in science, was introducing a cosmological constant".... The universe had a begining , aka "the expanding universe", the equations of general relativity by Einstein shows that there was a universe was constant, until he proved it wasn't. It expanded, typically people said the universe was just there, didnt have a creator, your theory pulse means that the universe came from nothing..... And by nothing.... but that makes no sense, because "out of nothing, nothing comes".....

So whatever begins to exist has a cause
the universe begins to exist
therefore it has a cause

If you continue your research, you will find out some startling things about your universe you call God.... which has been proven to be created.

I think Pulse is not too far off in a lot of ways.

I think The universe did have a start tho 'big bang' if you will....

What I believe is everything was the same a huge void of energy waiting to be unleashed. I think the second this nothingness first had consciousness the big bang happened.
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I think Pulse is not too far off in a lot of ways.

I think The universe did have a start tho 'big bang' if you will....

What I believe is everything was the same a huge void of energy waiting to be unleashed. I think the second this nothingness first had consciousness the big bang happened.
But, the law of conservation of energy only apply to after the universe was created,

You say matter/energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but that only debunks the "big bang theory" that you speak of believing in.... because in that case the energy infact was created, which created other energys and matter from it because the universe is an expanding universe. That entire concept you speak of has been shown to be false. Because according to that theory, all matter, space and time itself came into existance, the laws of thermodynamics only apply to after the universe came into being, but it doesnt apply to the origin of the universe, which is violated by the big bang theory,

Science states, whatever begins to exist has a cause,because it is an expanding universe, the universe begins to exist, therefore there is a cause, this cause had to be one, and it had to be personal, because how else can an eternal cause, bring into existance a finite universe? think about it
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I think Pulse is not too far off in a lot of ways.

I think The universe did have a start tho 'big bang' if you will....

What I believe is everything was the same a huge void of energy waiting to be unleashed. I think the second this nothingness first had consciousness the big bang happened.
But, the law of conservation of energy only apply to after the universe was created,

You say matter/energy can neither be created nor destroyed, but that only debunks the "big bang theory" that you speak of believing in.... because in that case the energy infact was created, which created other energys and matter from it because the universe is an expanding universe. That entire concept you speak of has been shown to be false. Because according to that theory, all matter, space and time itself came into existance, the laws of thermodynamics only apply to after the universe came into being, but it doesnt apply to the origin of the universe, which is violated by the big bang theory,

Science states, whatever begins to exist has a cause,because it is an expanding universe, the universe begins to exist, therefore there is a cause, this cause had to be one, and it had to be personal, because how else can an eternal cause, bring into existance a finite universe? think about it
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Who said the Universe wasn't created? EVERYTHING has to be created.

But if you want to argue that everything had to be created, then God had to be created. Because there's no way God just popped up.

Therefore God was created and w/e created God was created too

Never ending argument. If you leave it at the Universe governs all that's all you really need to know for now. Don't rack your brain with shit you'll never understand. & If you refuse to connect these dots and make these connections your life will be useless and you'll have to start again in your next life

Our soul carries its experiences from previous lives to help guide us in our next. Again, all shit you can find out through meditation. Look up Akashic records


Your Akashic record (Archive of all your lifetimes) can be reached when you dream. Meditate a lot before you sleep and when you lucid dream ask to see your Akashic record. What happens is different for everyone.

However, our mind is what'll get us to a higher plane and a higher level of understanding. Buddha meditated under a tree. Trees contain knowledge as many of them have stood for 10,20,50,100+ years. Anything with a life force behind it we can connect to, naturally. We are all one and the same

Law of One

Think of a pinata full of candy. The pinata breaks and all these different varieties of candy fall out. Even if they're different, they all still came from the pinata. That's our relationship with each other, the plants, and the animals. Although we bare different appearances, we are all one and the same

And our mission on this planet, at least to me, is to grasp that concept and live in harmony with each other and our world. You think these millionaires and billionaires that own fast food chains and junk food companies actually eat all the shit they serve us?

A lot of our foods are genetically modified and there's a link between GMO's and cancer/chronic illnesses.

We were designed to live and die. That's the role your handlers assign you. It's a sick twisted game in a sense, because they give you the free will to escape confinement.

Marriage is man made
School is man made
Work is man made
Time is man made

These are all the distractions we experience in life and then we die.

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Who said the Universe wasn't created? EVERYTHING has to be created.

But if you want to argue that everything had to be created, then God had to be created. Because there's no way God just popped up.

Therefore God was created and w/e created God was created too

Never ending argument. If you leave it at the Universe governs all that's all you really need to know for now. Don't rack your brain with shit you'll never understand. & If you refuse to connect these dots and make these connections your life will be useless and you'll have to start again in your next life

Our soul carries its experiences from previous lives to help guide us in our next. Again, all shit you can find out through meditation. Look up Akashic records


Your Akashic record (Archive of all your lifetimes) can be reached when you dream. Meditate a lot before you sleep and when you lucid dream ask to see your Akashic record. What happens is different for everyone.

However, our mind is what'll get us to a higher plane and a higher level of understanding. Buddha meditated under a tree. Trees contain knowledge as many of them have stood for 10,20,50,100+ years. Anything with a life force behind it we can connect to, naturally. We are all one and the same

Law of One

Think of a pinata full of candy. The pinata breaks and all these different varieties of candy fall out. Even if they're different, they all still came from the pinata. That's our relationship with each other, the plants, and the animals. Although we bare different appearances, we are all one and the same

And our mission on this planet, at least to me, is to grasp that concept and live in harmony with each other and our world. You think these millionaires and billionaires that own fast food chains and junk food companies actually eat all the shit they serve us?

A lot of our foods are genetically modified and there's a link between GMO's and cancer/chronic illnesses.

We were designed to live and die. That's the role your handlers assign you. It's a sick twisted game in a sense, because they give you the free will to escape confinement.

Marriage is man made
School is man made
Work is man made
Time is man made

These are all the distractions we experience in life and then we die.

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Who said the Universe wasn't created? EVERYTHING has to be created.
Not Energy.

That's a scientific Law...

The first law of thermodynamics, an expression of the principle of conservation of energy, states that energy can be transformed (changed from one form to another), but cannot be created or destroyed.
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That's a scientific Law...

The first law of thermodynamics, an expression of the principle of conservation of energy, states that energy can be transformed (changed from one form to another), but cannot be created or destroyed.
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Energy was created too, since it just didn't exist. That's the point Moses is making at least. But I'm trying to explain to him it doesnt work like that

I know energy cannot be created or destroyed. Like I said, a lot of successful people know about the power their mind has and they acknowledge that our mind is what governs our life. We create the life we want for ourself based on our thoughts

Nas said so himself

"I'm never gonna die, I never heard of death. Energy can never be destroyed, only the flesh"


"Calm now was a wilder dude, studied Taoism made power moves"

More people try to help us than you think. Some of ya'll take rap at face value but as a responsible listener its your duty to research everything and make connections

Big Sean & Will Smith preach the law of attraction

Nas, Jay-Z, and Kanye... God's Son, Jehovah, Yeezus... All self proclaimed Gods, because they understand their mind is a mini-God, in a sense.

Kanye believes there's a God above him but he's the "God of everything else"

Naturally he should believe that. He's an alchemist, and alchemy is what got him to the level he's at today. Whether he did so consciously or sub consciously

I believe in my mind more than anybody in these religious books, as my mind is whats helping me get the life I longed for.
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Energy was created too, since it just didn't exist. That's the point Moses is making at least. But I'm trying to explain to him it doesnt work like that

I know energy cannot be created or destroyed. Like I said, a lot of successful people know about the power their mind has and they acknowledge that our mind is what governs our life. We create the life we want for ourself based on our thoughts

Nas said so himself

"I'm never gonna die, I never heard of death. Energy can never be destroyed, only the flesh"


"Calm now was a wilder dude, studied Taoism made power moves"

More people try to help us than you think. Some of ya'll take rap at face value but as a responsible listener its your duty to research everything and make connections

Big Sean & Will Smith preach the law of attraction

Nas, Jay-Z, and Kanye... God's Son, Jehovah, Yeezus... All self proclaimed Gods, because they understand their mind is a mini-God, in a sense.

Kanye believes there's a God above him but he's the "God of everything else"

Naturally he should believe that. He's an alchemist, and alchemy is what got him to the level he's at today. Whether he did so consciously or sub consciously

I believe in my mind more than anybody in these religious books, as my mind is whats helping me get the life I longed for.
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I think anyone asking the big questions are headed in the right direction yo. I don't know if we will ever know all the answers, I do think looking for them yourself as an individual will get you closer to God than you ever have been before. Question All. Belief what can be proven. Have faith that by simply asking big questions you already have your proof of a 'higher power'.
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I think anyone asking the big questions are headed in the right direction yo. I don't know if we will ever know all the answers, I do think looking for them yourself as an individual will get you closer to God than you ever have been before. Question All. Belief what can be proven. Have faith that by simply asking big questions you already have your proof of a 'higher power'.
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