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was the 3 second rule even in place back then?

wilt coulda just camped himself in the paint.

kobe's is more impressive because it contained more versatillity in a much tougher modern game. the height disadvantage too against a monster who got all his points where a man of his size better be dominating
Yes the 3 second rule had already been implemented. I hear where you are coming from but I think you mean "weight advantage" and not height because Wilt was guarded by Darrall Imhoff who was 6ft11 and was only 3 inches smaller than Wilt. However Wilt outweighed the man by 50 lbs which to me was the biggest difference. When Wilt dropped 100 there was no shot clock back than so that's an advantage to him but also the lane was only 12 feet wide where in Kobes 81 its not 16 feet. I do see where you're coming from w/ the height/weight disadvantage but lets not forget Kobe was playing the Raptors who was one of the worst defensive teams that year and Kobe was guarded by Jalen Rose/ Morris Peterson both who were both terrible defensive players.

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I can be easily persuaded though haha. This article is interesting as it takes a look at Kobes 81 vs Wilts 100
Some interesting facts that have me actually on the fence at this point

* Wilt scored 59.2% of his teams 169 points in their 169-147 victory.
* Kobe managed to scored 66.4% of his teams 122 points.
* Wilt took 63 shots to get 100 points.
* Kobe took 17 less shots (46 shots) in his 81 game.
* Wilt played in a game where no shot clock was present.
* Kobe played in a game where there was a 24 second shot clock.
* Wilt didn’t have benefit of three point line
* Kobe did have 3-pointers, but through it, he only benefited from 7 points due to 3’s.
* Wilt played in a lane that was only 12 feet wide.
* Kobe played in a lane that is 16 feet wide.
* Wilt went 28 of 32 from the free throw line.
* Kobe went 18 of 20 from the free throw line (10 less points & 12 less attempts).
* Wilt shot 57% from the field (36-63).
* Kobe shot 60% from the field (28-46).
* In Wilt’s 100 point game, he was not guarded by anyone taller than 6-10.
* In Kobe’s 81 point game, at least 4 Raptor players are listed at least 6-10.
* Wilt played in an era where there was no zone defense.
* Kobe scored 81 in a more sophisticated defensive era, where zone is legal.
* Wilt played the entire contest.
* Kobe actually sat out for 6 minutes in the 81 point game.
* Wilt’s Warriors had 39 assists in his 100 point game.
* Kobe’s team only had 18 assists (2 from Kobe).
* Wilt’s team was playing a last-place Knicks team with their own playoff seed secured.
* Kobe’s Lakers were two games above .500, despite Raptors in non-contention.
* Wilt’s team led the Knicks the entire game.
* Kobe’s Lakers trailed by 16 at one point.
* While there is no official number, it is estimated there was around 130 possessions in Wilt’s 100 point game.
* The Lakers had 99 possessions
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was the 3 second rule even in place back then?

wilt coulda just camped himself in the paint.

kobe's is more impressive because it contained more versatillity in a much tougher modern game. the height disadvantage too against a monster who got all his points where a man of his size better be dominating
Yes the 3 second rule had already been implemented. I hear where you are coming from but I think you mean "weight advantage" and not height because Wilt was guarded by Darrall Imhoff who was 6ft11 and was only 3 inches smaller than Wilt. However Wilt outweighed the man by 50 lbs which to me was the biggest difference. When Wilt dropped 100 there was no shot clock back than so that's an advantage to him but also the lane was only 12 feet wide where in Kobes 81 its not 16 feet. I do see where you're coming from w/ the height/weight disadvantage but lets not forget Kobe was playing the Raptors who was one of the worst defensive teams that year and Kobe was guarded by Jalen Rose/ Morris Peterson both who were both terrible defensive players.

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I can be easily persuaded though haha. This article is interesting as it takes a look at Kobes 81 vs Wilts 100
Some interesting facts that have me actually on the fence at this point

* Wilt scored 59.2% of his teams 169 points in their 169-147 victory.
* Kobe managed to scored 66.4% of his teams 122 points.
* Wilt took 63 shots to get 100 points.
* Kobe took 17 less shots (46 shots) in his 81 game.
* Wilt played in a game where no shot clock was present.
* Kobe played in a game where there was a 24 second shot clock.
* Wilt didn’t have benefit of three point line
* Kobe did have 3-pointers, but through it, he only benefited from 7 points due to 3’s.
* Wilt played in a lane that was only 12 feet wide.
* Kobe played in a lane that is 16 feet wide.
* Wilt went 28 of 32 from the free throw line.
* Kobe went 18 of 20 from the free throw line (10 less points & 12 less attempts).
* Wilt shot 57% from the field (36-63).
* Kobe shot 60% from the field (28-46).
* In Wilt’s 100 point game, he was not guarded by anyone taller than 6-10.
* In Kobe’s 81 point game, at least 4 Raptor players are listed at least 6-10.
* Wilt played in an era where there was no zone defense.
* Kobe scored 81 in a more sophisticated defensive era, where zone is legal.
* Wilt played the entire contest.
* Kobe actually sat out for 6 minutes in the 81 point game.
* Wilt’s Warriors had 39 assists in his 100 point game.
* Kobe’s team only had 18 assists (2 from Kobe).
* Wilt’s team was playing a last-place Knicks team with their own playoff seed secured.
* Kobe’s Lakers were two games above .500, despite Raptors in non-contention.
* Wilt’s team led the Knicks the entire game.
* Kobe’s Lakers trailed by 16 at one point.
* While there is no official number, it is estimated there was around 130 possessions in Wilt’s 100 point game.
* The Lakers had 99 possessions
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Sorry but Kobe isn't better than LeBron

LeBron carried the Cavaliers to an Eastern Conference finals, a finals appearance, & dropped 41 pts in his rookie year

Youngest to hit 40+ point mark, ONLY rookie to hit 41 pt mark
Youngest to have a triple-double
Youngest All-Star game MVP
Youngest to average 30 points in a season

& Like 2 weeks ago he became 1 of 5 players to drop double digit points for 500+ games in a ROW.

& If your argument is that LeBron went to the NBA right after high school so of course he'd be the youngest .....remember that Kobe went straight from high school too
Thats not hard to do when you're a one man team at Cleveland lmao...Kobe had Shaq underneath so you had 2 all-stars with an ego and drive to be the best...Its a toss up no doubt but I personally would rather watch Kobe shake & bake 3 defenders and bust a 3 or slash to the goal on em rather than watch LeBron go unguarded and make 3's or take uncontested dunks!...
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Sorry but Kobe isn't better than LeBron

LeBron carried the Cavaliers to an Eastern Conference finals, a finals appearance, & dropped 41 pts in his rookie year

Youngest to hit 40+ point mark, ONLY rookie to hit 41 pt mark
Youngest to have a triple-double
Youngest All-Star game MVP
Youngest to average 30 points in a season

& Like 2 weeks ago he became 1 of 5 players to drop double digit points for 500+ games in a ROW.

& If your argument is that LeBron went to the NBA right after high school so of course he'd be the youngest .....remember that Kobe went straight from high school too
Thats not hard to do when you're a one man team at Cleveland lmao...Kobe had Shaq underneath so you had 2 all-stars with an ego and drive to be the best...Its a toss up no doubt but I personally would rather watch Kobe shake & bake 3 defenders and bust a 3 or slash to the goal on em rather than watch LeBron go unguarded and make 3's or take uncontested dunks!...
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Yes the 3 second rule had already been implemented. I hear where you are coming from but I think you mean "weight advantage" and not height because Wilt was guarded by Darrall Imhoff who was 6ft11 and was only 3 inches smaller than Wilt. However Wilt outweighed the man by 50 lbs which to me was the biggest difference. When Wilt dropped 100 there was no shot clock back than so that's an advantage to him but also the lane was only 12 feet wide where in Kobes 81 its not 16 feet. I do see where you're coming from w/ the height/weight disadvantage but lets not forget Kobe was playing the Raptors who was one of the worst defensive teams that year and Kobe was guarded by Jalen Rose/ Morris Peterson both who were both terrible defensive players.

---------- Post added at 06:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:06 PM ----------

I can be easily persuaded though haha. This article is interesting as it takes a look at Kobes 81 vs Wilts 100
Some interesting facts that have me actually on the fence at this point

* Wilt scored 59.2% of his teams 169 points in their 169-147 victory.
* Kobe managed to scored 66.4% of his teams 122 points.
* Wilt took 63 shots to get 100 points.
* Kobe took 17 less shots (46 shots) in his 81 game.
* Wilt played in a game where no shot clock was present.
* Kobe played in a game where there was a 24 second shot clock.
* Wilt didn’t have benefit of three point line
* Kobe did have 3-pointers, but through it, he only benefited from 7 points due to 3’s.
* Wilt played in a lane that was only 12 feet wide.
* Kobe played in a lane that is 16 feet wide.
* Wilt went 28 of 32 from the free throw line.
* Kobe went 18 of 20 from the free throw line (10 less points & 12 less attempts).
* Wilt shot 57% from the field (36-63).
* Kobe shot 60% from the field (28-46).
* In Wilt’s 100 point game, he was not guarded by anyone taller than 6-10.
* In Kobe’s 81 point game, at least 4 Raptor players are listed at least 6-10.
* Wilt played in an era where there was no zone defense.
* Kobe scored 81 in a more sophisticated defensive era, where zone is legal.
* Wilt played the entire contest.
* Kobe actually sat out for 6 minutes in the 81 point game.
* Wilt’s Warriors had 39 assists in his 100 point game.
* Kobe’s team only had 18 assists (2 from Kobe).
* Wilt’s team was playing a last-place Knicks team with their own playoff seed secured.
* Kobe’s Lakers were two games above .500, despite Raptors in non-contention.
* Wilt’s team led the Knicks the entire game.
* Kobe’s Lakers trailed by 16 at one point.
* While there is no official number, it is estimated there was around 130 possessions in Wilt’s 100 point game.
* The Lakers had 99 possessions
well damn lol someone knows they basketball. but ya all of those are 100% accurate. bet he could of have 20 more points if he could make his free throws lol
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Yes the 3 second rule had already been implemented. I hear where you are coming from but I think you mean "weight advantage" and not height because Wilt was guarded by Darrall Imhoff who was 6ft11 and was only 3 inches smaller than Wilt. However Wilt outweighed the man by 50 lbs which to me was the biggest difference. When Wilt dropped 100 there was no shot clock back than so that's an advantage to him but also the lane was only 12 feet wide where in Kobes 81 its not 16 feet. I do see where you're coming from w/ the height/weight disadvantage but lets not forget Kobe was playing the Raptors who was one of the worst defensive teams that year and Kobe was guarded by Jalen Rose/ Morris Peterson both who were both terrible defensive players.

---------- Post added at 06:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:06 PM ----------

I can be easily persuaded though haha. This article is interesting as it takes a look at Kobes 81 vs Wilts 100
Some interesting facts that have me actually on the fence at this point

* Wilt scored 59.2% of his teams 169 points in their 169-147 victory.
* Kobe managed to scored 66.4% of his teams 122 points.
* Wilt took 63 shots to get 100 points.
* Kobe took 17 less shots (46 shots) in his 81 game.
* Wilt played in a game where no shot clock was present.
* Kobe played in a game where there was a 24 second shot clock.
* Wilt didn’t have benefit of three point line
* Kobe did have 3-pointers, but through it, he only benefited from 7 points due to 3’s.
* Wilt played in a lane that was only 12 feet wide.
* Kobe played in a lane that is 16 feet wide.
* Wilt went 28 of 32 from the free throw line.
* Kobe went 18 of 20 from the free throw line (10 less points & 12 less attempts).
* Wilt shot 57% from the field (36-63).
* Kobe shot 60% from the field (28-46).
* In Wilt’s 100 point game, he was not guarded by anyone taller than 6-10.
* In Kobe’s 81 point game, at least 4 Raptor players are listed at least 6-10.
* Wilt played in an era where there was no zone defense.
* Kobe scored 81 in a more sophisticated defensive era, where zone is legal.
* Wilt played the entire contest.
* Kobe actually sat out for 6 minutes in the 81 point game.
* Wilt’s Warriors had 39 assists in his 100 point game.
* Kobe’s team only had 18 assists (2 from Kobe).
* Wilt’s team was playing a last-place Knicks team with their own playoff seed secured.
* Kobe’s Lakers were two games above .500, despite Raptors in non-contention.
* Wilt’s team led the Knicks the entire game.
* Kobe’s Lakers trailed by 16 at one point.
* While there is no official number, it is estimated there was around 130 possessions in Wilt’s 100 point game.
* The Lakers had 99 possessions
well damn lol someone knows they basketball. but ya all of those are 100% accurate. bet he could of have 20 more points if he could make his free throws lol
 
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