Rap vs. Hip Hop

Yeah but Macklemore also talks about how he's culturally appropriating the black music and how he has white privilege so he can fuck right off.

My problem with rap a lot is that everyone is John Cena. What I mean by this is that they aren't allowed to play a "character". They have to "keep it real" and be honest about themselves. Why aren't we allowed more storytelling? Things like 2pac writing a verse from the perspective of a woman, as if she's the protagonist? Or Eminem's Stan. Things like that always feel different for me and it opens it up to be more like writing and poetry than it is "rap".

Anyways, as for the general topic, some people have it the complete otherway around but I see rap as the action of rapping, and I see hiphop as the whole facade with flashy cars and gold chains.

Yeah but Macklemore also talks about how he's culturally appropriating the black music and how he has white privilege so he can fuck right off.

My problem with rap a lot is that everyone is John Cena. What I mean by this is that they aren't allowed to play a "character". They have to "keep it real" and be honest about themselves. Why aren't we allowed more storytelling? Things like 2pac writing a verse from the perspective of a woman, as if she's the protagonist? Or Eminem's Stan. Things like that always feel different for me and it opens it up to be more like writing and poetry than it is "rap".

Anyways, as for the general topic, some people have it the complete otherway around but I see rap as the action of rapping, and I see hiphop as the whole facade with flashy cars and gold chains.

[NOBLE]

I haven't listened to much Macklemore, but I get where you are coming from, Nick. I still think Rap/Hip Hop is the most versatile form of music there is. Probably 95% of all R&B, Country, or Pop songs are love-related (either they're saying sorry, breaking up or making up). I think they're even more monotonous than Rap imo. Hip Hop employs more words. Someone can tell their whole life story in a song. It's harder to do that in the other genres because of the format. People have sang about killing and violence in other genres, but it's not as convincing to me. I think the monotony in subject matter is mostly in mainstream and commercial Rap. Those themes sell (sex and violence) and most of those rappers are doing it mostly for the money. You will find more varied subjects if you explore the underground.

[NOBLE]

I haven't listened to much Macklemore, but I get where you are coming from, Nick. I still think Rap/Hip Hop is the most versatile form of music there is. Probably 95% of all R&B, Country, or Pop songs are love-related (either they're saying sorry, breaking up or making up). I think they're even more monotonous than Rap imo. Hip Hop employs more words. Someone can tell their whole life story in a song. It's harder to do that in the other genres because of the format. People have sang about killing and violence in other genres, but it's not as convincing to me. I think the monotony in subject matter is mostly in mainstream and commercial Rap. Those themes sell (sex and violence) and most of those rappers are doing it mostly for the money. You will find more varied subjects if you explore the underground.

For people making ACTUAL music, as in playing instruments, I'm more impressed these days than rap.

I was recently put on to Lindsey Sterling and Miyavi and just their skills on their respective instruments alone are insane. Lovely Laura who smashes it on the Sax in Ibiza and was at Tomorowland last year is another amazing one with her art.

For people making ACTUAL music, as in playing instruments, I'm more impressed these days than rap.

I was recently put on to Lindsey Sterling and Miyavi and just their skills on their respective instruments alone are insane. Lovely Laura who smashes it on the Sax in Ibiza and was at Tomorowland last year is another amazing one with her art.

Thats another issue with rap. Everyone wants to get "signed". You dont just get an open mic night with people performing because thats what they love to do. Thats why you rarely get people writing about whatever they want and just feeling it.

Thats another issue with rap. Everyone wants to get "signed". You dont just get an open mic night with people performing because thats what they love to do. Thats why you rarely get people writing about whatever they want and just feeling it.

[Ocularis Van Leer]

The absolute difference is purely what the music is. Rap can be acappella. The music can be house or pop,rock,country,trap but have someone rapping on it. Someone rapping does not a hiphop song make

[Ocularis Van Leer]

The absolute difference is purely what the music is. Rap can be acappella. The music can be house or pop,rock,country,trap but have someone rapping on it. Someone rapping does not a hiphop song make

[RhetoriK]

Hip Hop is a culture...rap is something people involved in the aforesaid culture do.

[RhetoriK]

Hip Hop is a culture...rap is something people involved in the aforesaid culture do.

[Student]

Hip-Hop is LIFE, Rap is the soundtrack. Just like any compilation there's different ways of doing it (sub-genres).
Beat-boxing turned into making 5 beats a day for 3 summers.
Break dancing turned into dabbing, nae nae, dougie, etc. whatever the fuck is "hip" now, get it hip?
Wearing Addidas track suits turned baggy pants then into leather kilts and shit and whatever's the trend now.

[Student]

Hip-Hop is LIFE, Rap is the soundtrack. Just like any compilation there's different ways of doing it (sub-genres).
Beat-boxing turned into making 5 beats a day for 3 summers.
Break dancing turned into dabbing, nae nae, dougie, etc. whatever the fuck is "hip" now, get it hip?
Wearing Addidas track suits turned baggy pants then into leather kilts and shit and whatever's the trend now.