Not Dropping An Expo On A Battle Is Inexcusable - Page 2 - Lets Beef

**Student** · #11 09-15-2014, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Just C

I don't care as long as the vote is correct. People drop long expos just for the sake of dropping long expo's and bandwagoning.

Half the people who drop them haven't got a clue what they're talking about.

While I Agree With You, It's Extremely Easy To Drop A "Correct Vote". I.E. Everyone Know Jason Drops 9/10 Type Of Material But If You Read Some Comments Saying "Was Disappointed" Then You Give Him An 8 To Be "Safe". etc. Or Just Drop 6-7, 7-8 Towards The Most Popular Guy Because "They Usually Win".

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Originally Posted by remarK

We went over this a long time ago when REAL TALK and Illimit were dropping short and sweet votes... it's not always a bad thing as Just C said.

If you know their mind is in the right place, that's all that matters. Of course, going into depth is always appreciated, but you can always do that after the battle closes IMO.

Believe Me Man, I Completely Understand. I Probably Drop 1,000+ Votes That Were Something Like, "Nice Battle Here Guys, Fair's Thrown", "One Edged This...", "One Was Just Better Overall", etc. Which Really Tell The Battlers Nothing As Far As Critique Goes.

Bet Money If I Started Dropping Votes Like That I'd Get Kicked Out Of The FVC Because I'm A "Shitty" Voter Even Though I Co-Founded It And Have Proven To Be A Fair Voter Time And Time Again.

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Originally Posted by NOBLE

It cuts both ways. You say you'd want half a critique on your verse---everyone isn't like you. Some people are afraid of their battles being swayed by long detailed critiques, especially when they're facing someone who's a favorite and your expo reveals you might have voted for their opponent. No matter what you do, someone is going to have a problem with the way you vote. Leave an expo that's short and sweet, they'll complain that its too short. Leave a detailed expo, they'll complain that its swaying. Also, you don't need battle vote comments to get critique on what you need to improve. You can always hit people up privately and get a much more involved critique and perspective on your verse, even when they leave short and sweet comments.

Well I Said At Least Half A Critique And Again I Get What Your Saying But What's Better, Helping A Few People Improve By Pointing Out Their Flaws Or Voting On A 100 Battles With No Explanation Why They're Winning So They Continue To Drop Mediocre Material And Make No Plans To Excel Because They're Getting 7's All The Time.

Quality Over Quantity Imo.

Plus I'm Only Saying This Because Of The Turnout Of Battles, I Dropped An Open On Saturday And Since Then There Has Only Been About 4-5 Battles Started.

In The End My Point Isn't That You Have To Drop Long Explanations On Battles, I'm Just Encouraging People To At Least Write A Short Explanation Instead Of Just "Good Battle Here", "Fair's In", "FV GB VB", etc. Type Votes.

**Student** · 09-15-2014, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just C

I don't care as long as the vote is correct. People drop long expos just for the sake of dropping long expo's and bandwagoning.

Half the people who drop them haven't got a clue what they're talking about.

While I Agree With You, It's Extremely Easy To Drop A "Correct Vote". I.E. Everyone Know Jason Drops 9/10 Type Of Material But If You Read Some Comments Saying "Was Disappointed" Then You Give Him An 8 To Be "Safe". etc. Or Just Drop 6-7, 7-8 Towards The Most Popular Guy Because "They Usually Win".

Quote:

Originally Posted by remarK

We went over this a long time ago when REAL TALK and Illimit were dropping short and sweet votes... it's not always a bad thing as Just C said.

If you know their mind is in the right place, that's all that matters. Of course, going into depth is always appreciated, but you can always do that after the battle closes IMO.

Believe Me Man, I Completely Understand. I Probably Drop 1,000+ Votes That Were Something Like, "Nice Battle Here Guys, Fair's Thrown", "One Edged This...", "One Was Just Better Overall", etc. Which Really Tell The Battlers Nothing As Far As Critique Goes.

Bet Money If I Started Dropping Votes Like That I'd Get Kicked Out Of The FVC Because I'm A "Shitty" Voter Even Though I Co-Founded It And Have Proven To Be A Fair Voter Time And Time Again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOBLE

It cuts both ways. You say you'd want half a critique on your verse---everyone isn't like you. Some people are afraid of their battles being swayed by long detailed critiques, especially when they're facing someone who's a favorite and your expo reveals you might have voted for their opponent. No matter what you do, someone is going to have a problem with the way you vote. Leave an expo that's short and sweet, they'll complain that its too short. Leave a detailed expo, they'll complain that its swaying. Also, you don't need battle vote comments to get critique on what you need to improve. You can always hit people up privately and get a much more involved critique and perspective on your verse, even when they leave short and sweet comments.

Well I Said At Least Half A Critique And Again I Get What Your Saying But What's Better, Helping A Few People Improve By Pointing Out Their Flaws Or Voting On A 100 Battles With No Explanation Why They're Winning So They Continue To Drop Mediocre Material And Make No Plans To Excel Because They're Getting 7's All The Time.

Quality Over Quantity Imo.

Plus I'm Only Saying This Because Of The Turnout Of Battles, I Dropped An Open On Saturday And Since Then There Has Only Been About 4-5 Battles Started.

In The End My Point Isn't That You Have To Drop Long Explanations On Battles, I'm Just Encouraging People To At Least Write A Short Explanation Instead Of Just "Good Battle Here", "Fair's In", "FV GB VB", etc. Type Votes.