Kobe Bryant is TOP 3 EVER.

[IllerInstincts]

Originally Posted by Manhattan

You guys are bugging if you think Kobes 81 was better than Wilts 100. Ya sure Wilt seemed like a man against boys at the time but to think he had 100 pts in a game WITHOUT A 3 POINT LINE. He HAD to of made 50 shots and lets no forget free throws which he set the record w/ free throws made that game as well. Not to mention Wilt had already broken the previous record of 71 pts in a game that season but scoring 78. Also since were talking about how 55 rebounds in a game will never be broken (Which is true) Same w/ Wilts 50.4 pts per game that season will never be broken. Ya it was in triple OT but Kobe was also playing the raptors haha. Also to say that Wilt had "No competition or was playing with small dudes" is crazy that was an era of Bill Russell, Kareem, Counts, Halbroke, Moore, Thurmond, Bowman and the list goes on of big guys over 6ft11 who could play

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One of he dumbest things I've read here. Under height? Maybe you mean underweight but here is the list of centers who played in that Era and height
Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2"
Dennis Awtrey: 6'11"
Walt Bellamy: 6'11"
Tom Boerwinkle: 7'0"
Nate Bowmen: 6'11"
Mel Counts: 7'0"
Walter Dukes: 7'0"
Jim Eakins: 6'11"
Ray Felix: 6'11"
Hank Finkel: 7'0"
Artis Gilmore: 7'2"
Swede Halbrook: 7'3"
Reggie Harding: 7'0"
Bob Lanier: 6'11"
Jim McDaniels: 6'11"
Otto Moore: 6'11"
Dave Newmark: 7'0"
Rich Niemann: 7'0"
Billy Paultz: 6'11"
Craig Raymond: 6'11"
Elmore Smith: 7'0"
Chuck Share: 6'11"
Ronald Taylor: 7'1"
Nate Thurmond: 6'11"
Walt Wesley: 6'11"

To say Centers were under height is ridiculous

Wilt pro career started in 1959 & ended in 1973.
Half those centers you listed was drafted after 1966-67. (Kareem, Billy, Craig, Elmore) list goes on. Note - He made history March 2nd of 1962.


With that being said take a look at how things changed when competition started to come around.

60 - 37.6
61 - 38.4
62 - 50.4
63 - 44.8
64 - 36.9
65 - 34.7
66 - 33.5
67 - 24.1
68 - 24.3
70 - 20.5

Wilt was extremely talented, I'm not knocking him but we all know Hakeem The Dream the greatest center of all time.

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Knicks C in the 100 pt game:

18 Darrall Imhoff C Height: 6-10 Weight: 220
8 Phil Jordon C Height: 6-10. Weight: 205

Compared to Wilt

13 Wilt Chamberlain Height:7-1 Weight: 275


Thats like asking a high school player to guard Kobe in a full game. Yes, He would drop over 100 pts.

[IllerInstincts]

Originally Posted by Manhattan

You guys are bugging if you think Kobes 81 was better than Wilts 100. Ya sure Wilt seemed like a man against boys at the time but to think he had 100 pts in a game WITHOUT A 3 POINT LINE. He HAD to of made 50 shots and lets no forget free throws which he set the record w/ free throws made that game as well. Not to mention Wilt had already broken the previous record of 71 pts in a game that season but scoring 78. Also since were talking about how 55 rebounds in a game will never be broken (Which is true) Same w/ Wilts 50.4 pts per game that season will never be broken. Ya it was in triple OT but Kobe was also playing the raptors haha. Also to say that Wilt had "No competition or was playing with small dudes" is crazy that was an era of Bill Russell, Kareem, Counts, Halbroke, Moore, Thurmond, Bowman and the list goes on of big guys over 6ft11 who could play

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One of he dumbest things I've read here. Under height? Maybe you mean underweight but here is the list of centers who played in that Era and height
Kareem Abdul Jabbar: 7'2"
Dennis Awtrey: 6'11"
Walt Bellamy: 6'11"
Tom Boerwinkle: 7'0"
Nate Bowmen: 6'11"
Mel Counts: 7'0"
Walter Dukes: 7'0"
Jim Eakins: 6'11"
Ray Felix: 6'11"
Hank Finkel: 7'0"
Artis Gilmore: 7'2"
Swede Halbrook: 7'3"
Reggie Harding: 7'0"
Bob Lanier: 6'11"
Jim McDaniels: 6'11"
Otto Moore: 6'11"
Dave Newmark: 7'0"
Rich Niemann: 7'0"
Billy Paultz: 6'11"
Craig Raymond: 6'11"
Elmore Smith: 7'0"
Chuck Share: 6'11"
Ronald Taylor: 7'1"
Nate Thurmond: 6'11"
Walt Wesley: 6'11"

To say Centers were under height is ridiculous

Wilt pro career started in 1959 & ended in 1973.
Half those centers you listed was drafted after 1966-67. (Kareem, Billy, Craig, Elmore) list goes on. Note - He made history March 2nd of 1962.


With that being said take a look at how things changed when competition started to come around.

60 - 37.6
61 - 38.4
62 - 50.4
63 - 44.8
64 - 36.9
65 - 34.7
66 - 33.5
67 - 24.1
68 - 24.3
70 - 20.5

Wilt was extremely talented, I'm not knocking him but we all know Hakeem The Dream the greatest center of all time.

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Knicks C in the 100 pt game:

18 Darrall Imhoff C Height: 6-10 Weight: 220
8 Phil Jordon C Height: 6-10. Weight: 205

Compared to Wilt

13 Wilt Chamberlain Height:7-1 Weight: 275


Thats like asking a high school player to guard Kobe in a full game. Yes, He would drop over 100 pts.

[Manhattan]

Originally Posted by LordOfRaps

Wilt pro career started in 1959 & ended in 1973.
Half those centers you listed was drafted after 1966-67. (Kareem, Billy, Craig, Elmore) list goes on. Note - He made history March 2nd of 1962.


With that being said take a look at how things changed when competition started to come around.

60 - 37.6
61 - 38.4
62 - 50.4
63 - 44.8
64 - 36.9
65 - 34.7
66 - 33.5
67 - 24.1
68 - 24.3
70 - 20.5

Wilt was extremely talented, I'm not knocking him but we all know Hakeem The Dream the greatest center of all time.

---------- Post added at 08:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:00 PM ----------

Knicks C in the 100 pt game:

18 Darrall Imhoff C Height: 6-10 Weight: 220
8 Phil Jordon C Height: 6-10. Weight: 205

Compared to Wilt

13 Wilt Chamberlain Height:7-1 Weight: 275


Thats like asking a high school player to guard Kobe in a full game. Yes, He would drop over 100 pts.

LOL "when the competition started to come around" you mean when Wilt started to become plagued by injuries and wasn't giving a fuck about basketball. Wilt is still the best Center to ever play w/ over 72 NBA records. You are right however that the centers he played against vs knicks in the 100 pt game were weaker than wilt however comparing a 6ft10 220 lb professional nba player guarding Wilt to a high school player guarding Kobe is retarded.

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Originally Posted by Obey

Mins: 42 FGA-FGM: 28-46 3PA-3PM: 7-13 FTA-FTM: 18-20 there's Kobe's stats.
Kobe shot 61% here (Highly impressive, especially w/ 11 3pters.)

FGA-FGM: 36-63 FTA-FTM: 28-32 that's Wilt. Kobe STILL took nearly 50 shots.
Wilt shot 57% here (Still impressive, but that's w/ no 3pters and 12 more FTS.)

I'm going to say Kobe's was more impressive TBH.

Not that wilt would of taken 3 pointers but of course Kobe did....There was no 3 pt line back then

[Manhattan]

Originally Posted by LordOfRaps

Wilt pro career started in 1959 & ended in 1973.
Half those centers you listed was drafted after 1966-67. (Kareem, Billy, Craig, Elmore) list goes on. Note - He made history March 2nd of 1962.


With that being said take a look at how things changed when competition started to come around.

60 - 37.6
61 - 38.4
62 - 50.4
63 - 44.8
64 - 36.9
65 - 34.7
66 - 33.5
67 - 24.1
68 - 24.3
70 - 20.5

Wilt was extremely talented, I'm not knocking him but we all know Hakeem The Dream the greatest center of all time.

---------- Post added at 08:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:00 PM ----------

Knicks C in the 100 pt game:

18 Darrall Imhoff C Height: 6-10 Weight: 220
8 Phil Jordon C Height: 6-10. Weight: 205

Compared to Wilt

13 Wilt Chamberlain Height:7-1 Weight: 275


Thats like asking a high school player to guard Kobe in a full game. Yes, He would drop over 100 pts.

LOL "when the competition started to come around" you mean when Wilt started to become plagued by injuries and wasn't giving a fuck about basketball. Wilt is still the best Center to ever play w/ over 72 NBA records. You are right however that the centers he played against vs knicks in the 100 pt game were weaker than wilt however comparing a 6ft10 220 lb professional nba player guarding Wilt to a high school player guarding Kobe is retarded.

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Originally Posted by Obey

Mins: 42 FGA-FGM: 28-46 3PA-3PM: 7-13 FTA-FTM: 18-20 there's Kobe's stats.
Kobe shot 61% here (Highly impressive, especially w/ 11 3pters.)

FGA-FGM: 36-63 FTA-FTM: 28-32 that's Wilt. Kobe STILL took nearly 50 shots.
Wilt shot 57% here (Still impressive, but that's w/ no 3pters and 12 more FTS.)

I'm going to say Kobe's was more impressive TBH.

Not that wilt would of taken 3 pointers but of course Kobe did....There was no 3 pt line back then

[Obey]

Originally Posted by Manhattan

LOL "when the competition started to come around" you mean when Wilt started to become plagued by injuries and wasn't giving a fuck about basketball. Wilt is still the best Center to ever play w/ over 72 NBA records. You are right however that the centers he played against vs knicks in the 100 pt game were weaker than wilt however comparing a 6ft10 220 lb professional nba player guarding Wilt to a high school player guarding Kobe is retarded.

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Not that wilt would of taken 3 pointers but of course Kobe did....There was no 3 pt line back then

Yeah, but a 3 point shot is a lot harder than backing down someone and turning your big ass around to slam it in.

[Obey]

Originally Posted by Manhattan

LOL "when the competition started to come around" you mean when Wilt started to become plagued by injuries and wasn't giving a fuck about basketball. Wilt is still the best Center to ever play w/ over 72 NBA records. You are right however that the centers he played against vs knicks in the 100 pt game were weaker than wilt however comparing a 6ft10 220 lb professional nba player guarding Wilt to a high school player guarding Kobe is retarded.

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Not that wilt would of taken 3 pointers but of course Kobe did....There was no 3 pt line back then

Yeah, but a 3 point shot is a lot harder than backing down someone and turning your big ass around to slam it in.

[IllerInstincts]

Originally Posted by Manhattan

LOL "when the competition started to come around" you mean when Wilt started to become plagued by injuries and wasn't giving a fuck about basketball. Wilt is still the best Center to ever play w/ over 72 NBA records. You are right however that the centers he played against vs knicks in the 100 pt game were weaker than wilt however comparing a 6ft10 220 lb professional nba player guarding Wilt to a high school player guarding Kobe is retarded.

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Not that wilt would of taken 3 pointers but of course Kobe did....There was no 3 pt line back then

There was only 8 teams in the 1960-64. Than 9 teams in 1965-70.
No disrespect to the legends but C'mon, your not playing anybody.
Your playing the same teams over & over again. That's why I feel like
some of these legends are overrated. No one can take away Russell’s 11 rings,
but are his 11 championships more impressive than Jordan’s six or Magic Johnson’s five? Uh..... No!

[IllerInstincts]

Originally Posted by Manhattan

LOL "when the competition started to come around" you mean when Wilt started to become plagued by injuries and wasn't giving a fuck about basketball. Wilt is still the best Center to ever play w/ over 72 NBA records. You are right however that the centers he played against vs knicks in the 100 pt game were weaker than wilt however comparing a 6ft10 220 lb professional nba player guarding Wilt to a high school player guarding Kobe is retarded.

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Not that wilt would of taken 3 pointers but of course Kobe did....There was no 3 pt line back then

There was only 8 teams in the 1960-64. Than 9 teams in 1965-70.
No disrespect to the legends but C'mon, your not playing anybody.
Your playing the same teams over & over again. That's why I feel like
some of these legends are overrated. No one can take away Russell’s 11 rings,
but are his 11 championships more impressive than Jordan’s six or Magic Johnson’s five? Uh..... No!

[Spooky Deep]

If Wilt woulda had our knowledge of physical training and nutrition today he might've gone down as the greatest athlete ever...He would've been heavier, faster, & even a higher jumper

Shaq was already big...but he got MASSIVE when he went to LA. Shaq was 294 coming out of college & around 325 in Los Angeles...Nigga there's no way Wilt woulda been 275 ceteris paribus

[Spooky Deep]

If Wilt woulda had our knowledge of physical training and nutrition today he might've gone down as the greatest athlete ever...He would've been heavier, faster, & even a higher jumper

Shaq was already big...but he got MASSIVE when he went to LA. Shaq was 294 coming out of college & around 325 in Los Angeles...Nigga there's no way Wilt woulda been 275 ceteris paribus

[J u s T C]

your acting like wilt woulda been able to drop 3's.

[J u s T C]

your acting like wilt woulda been able to drop 3's.

[ShotsFired]

Originally Posted by Just C

your acting like wilt woulda been able to drop 3's.

That's actually the exact opposite of what I'm saying....The fact that he had to make at least 50 shots

[ShotsFired]

Originally Posted by Just C

your acting like wilt woulda been able to drop 3's.

That's actually the exact opposite of what I'm saying....The fact that he had to make at least 50 shots

[Obey]

If Shaq and Wilt went 1v1, I think Shaq could take him.

[Obey]

If Shaq and Wilt went 1v1, I think Shaq could take him.

[The Dope Man]

Originally Posted by Obey

If Shaq and Wilt went 1v1, I think Shaq could take him.

Damn.. Weird that i keep agreein with an AC but def believe that. Shaq was taller, stronger, more weight, and in his prime could run tha floor.. I'm sure y'all seen his rookie year in Orlando when he shattered tha backboard on a break-a-way dunk.. Shit was pure strength. Shaq in his prime was so dominant on tha block. Greatest Center of all time. Alot of analyst actually compare him to Wilt.

In all seriousness though. it's impossible to compare players from different eras and see who is the greatest. But there is no question tha players now-a-days are bigger, faster, & stronger. Some researchers believe the human race has reached it's peak on athletic ability.

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BTW in tha 1950s- Jewish people were considered to be gifted basketball players & there were some Jewish teams that were so dominant. I believe this is before the NBA, but i was watching videos and they were so garbage LOL. I would be able to shit all over them.

[The Dope Man]

Originally Posted by Obey

If Shaq and Wilt went 1v1, I think Shaq could take him.

Damn.. Weird that i keep agreein with an AC but def believe that. Shaq was taller, stronger, more weight, and in his prime could run tha floor.. I'm sure y'all seen his rookie year in Orlando when he shattered tha backboard on a break-a-way dunk.. Shit was pure strength. Shaq in his prime was so dominant on tha block. Greatest Center of all time. Alot of analyst actually compare him to Wilt.

In all seriousness though. it's impossible to compare players from different eras and see who is the greatest. But there is no question tha players now-a-days are bigger, faster, & stronger. Some researchers believe the human race has reached it's peak on athletic ability.

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BTW in tha 1950s- Jewish people were considered to be gifted basketball players & there were some Jewish teams that were so dominant. I believe this is before the NBA, but i was watching videos and they were so garbage LOL. I would be able to shit all over them.

[Obey]

Mins: 42 FGA-FGM: 28-46 3PA-3PM: 7-13 FTA-FTM: 18-20 there's Kobe's stats.
Kobe shot 61% here (Highly impressive, especially w/ 11 3pters.)

FGA-FGM: 36-63 FTA-FTM: 28-32 that's Wilt. Kobe STILL took nearly 50 shots.
Wilt shot 57% here (Still impressive, but that's w/ no 3pters and 12 more FTS.)

I'm going to say Kobe's was more impressive TBH.

[Obey]

Mins: 42 FGA-FGM: 28-46 3PA-3PM: 7-13 FTA-FTM: 18-20 there's Kobe's stats.
Kobe shot 61% here (Highly impressive, especially w/ 11 3pters.)

FGA-FGM: 36-63 FTA-FTM: 28-32 that's Wilt. Kobe STILL took nearly 50 shots.
Wilt shot 57% here (Still impressive, but that's w/ no 3pters and 12 more FTS.)

I'm going to say Kobe's was more impressive TBH.