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Wing Chun? I was always a huge fan of that but never actually put any thought into trying to learn it. I used to be big on Kung Fu flicks so I had an affinity for shit like that
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Yeah I'd love to give it a go myself. The "sticky hands" (giggity) stuff is awesome. That's where we kind of take influence from it. Some of what we train will be chaining our wrist locks together. So going from like 1 to 8 is what I have now. That kind of comes from that Wing Chun element cause you're using your hands and forearms etc. to make sure they never manage to break free of what you are doing. You always have control.
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TBH MMA Training is the best training you can do for self-defense, there is nothing more real. If I had to pick two things to train in it would be Boxing and BJJ.
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Yeah MMA training gives you your striking, physical strength, stamina and wrestling all in one go. I think doing MMA would allow me to make my 'life' about martial arts, but at the same time I'm not one of these MMA fans who dismisses stuff because "UFC fighters don't do it". There are millions of BJJ submissions that can't be done inside the cage, or simply haven't been. No one in UFC has been able to use Axe Kicks like Andy Hug did. Before Anthony Pettis, it wasn't believed that you could fly off the cage like Jet Li. Before Frank Mir and Jon Jones, that arm crank lock from the overhook position wouldnt have even been thought of. You bring innovation from other martial arts in with you.
I actually don't know what I'd want to pick anymore. Boxing teaches you sooooo much about punches, generating power, using speed effectively, punching correctly, using your upperbody to avoid being hit etc. I'm good with my kicks though, so I'm not sure if I'd want to move into an aspect where I wouldn't be able to use them. BJJ is something I've ALWAYS wanted to do. I was rolling with a guy who's been doing JJ for a few weeks now, and straight away I managed to reverse out of the full mount and into a leg lock. I've got crazy flexible legs and hips though so I'd have an advantage off the bat in it.
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Wing Chun? I was always a huge fan of that but never actually put any thought into trying to learn it. I used to be big on Kung Fu flicks so I had an affinity for shit like that
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Yeah I'd love to give it a go myself. The "sticky hands" (giggity) stuff is awesome. That's where we kind of take influence from it. Some of what we train will be chaining our wrist locks together. So going from like 1 to 8 is what I have now. That kind of comes from that Wing Chun element cause you're using your hands and forearms etc. to make sure they never manage to break free of what you are doing. You always have control.
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TBH MMA Training is the best training you can do for self-defense, there is nothing more real. If I had to pick two things to train in it would be Boxing and BJJ.
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Yeah MMA training gives you your striking, physical strength, stamina and wrestling all in one go. I think doing MMA would allow me to make my 'life' about martial arts, but at the same time I'm not one of these MMA fans who dismisses stuff because "UFC fighters don't do it". There are millions of BJJ submissions that can't be done inside the cage, or simply haven't been. No one in UFC has been able to use Axe Kicks like Andy Hug did. Before Anthony Pettis, it wasn't believed that you could fly off the cage like Jet Li. Before Frank Mir and Jon Jones, that arm crank lock from the overhook position wouldnt have even been thought of. You bring innovation from other martial arts in with you.
I actually don't know what I'd want to pick anymore. Boxing teaches you sooooo much about punches, generating power, using speed effectively, punching correctly, using your upperbody to avoid being hit etc. I'm good with my kicks though, so I'm not sure if I'd want to move into an aspect where I wouldn't be able to use them. BJJ is something I've ALWAYS wanted to do. I was rolling with a guy who's been doing JJ for a few weeks now, and straight away I managed to reverse out of the full mount and into a leg lock. I've got crazy flexible legs and hips though so I'd have an advantage off the bat in it.
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06-06-2014, 02:32 PM
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Yeah I'd love to give it a go myself. The "sticky hands" (giggity) stuff is awesome. That's where we kind of take influence from it. Some of what we train will be chaining our wrist locks together. So going from like 1 to 8 is what I have now. That kind of comes from that Wing Chun element cause you're using your hands and forearms etc. to make sure they never manage to break free of what you are doing. You always have control.
Yeah MMA training gives you your striking, physical strength, stamina and wrestling all in one go. I think doing MMA would allow me to make my 'life' about martial arts, but at the same time I'm not one of these MMA fans who dismisses stuff because "UFC fighters don't do it". There are millions of BJJ submissions that can't be done inside the cage, or simply haven't been. No one in UFC has been able to use Axe Kicks like Andy Hug did. Before Anthony Pettis, it wasn't believed that you could fly off the cage like Jet Li. Before Frank Mir and Jon Jones, that arm crank lock from the overhook position wouldnt have even been thought of. You bring innovation from other martial arts in with you.
I actually don't know what I'd want to pick anymore. Boxing teaches you sooooo much about punches, generating power, using speed effectively, punching correctly, using your upperbody to avoid being hit etc. I'm good with my kicks though, so I'm not sure if I'd want to move into an aspect where I wouldn't be able to use them. BJJ is something I've ALWAYS wanted to do. I was rolling with a guy who's been doing JJ for a few weeks now, and straight away I managed to reverse out of the full mount and into a leg lock. I've got crazy flexible legs and hips though so I'd have an advantage off the bat in it.
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I'm an ex-TKD practitioner and I honestly believe that most kicks are just redundant in a self-defense situation. They are unnecessarily risky, a good sweep kick can be brilliant but other than that I don't think I personally would bother with them.
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Yeah I'd love to give it a go myself. The "sticky hands" (giggity) stuff is awesome. That's where we kind of take influence from it. Some of what we train will be chaining our wrist locks together. So going from like 1 to 8 is what I have now. That kind of comes from that Wing Chun element cause you're using your hands and forearms etc. to make sure they never manage to break free of what you are doing. You always have control.
Yeah MMA training gives you your striking, physical strength, stamina and wrestling all in one go. I think doing MMA would allow me to make my 'life' about martial arts, but at the same time I'm not one of these MMA fans who dismisses stuff because "UFC fighters don't do it". There are millions of BJJ submissions that can't be done inside the cage, or simply haven't been. No one in UFC has been able to use Axe Kicks like Andy Hug did. Before Anthony Pettis, it wasn't believed that you could fly off the cage like Jet Li. Before Frank Mir and Jon Jones, that arm crank lock from the overhook position wouldnt have even been thought of. You bring innovation from other martial arts in with you.
I actually don't know what I'd want to pick anymore. Boxing teaches you sooooo much about punches, generating power, using speed effectively, punching correctly, using your upperbody to avoid being hit etc. I'm good with my kicks though, so I'm not sure if I'd want to move into an aspect where I wouldn't be able to use them. BJJ is something I've ALWAYS wanted to do. I was rolling with a guy who's been doing JJ for a few weeks now, and straight away I managed to reverse out of the full mount and into a leg lock. I've got crazy flexible legs and hips though so I'd have an advantage off the bat in it.
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I'm an ex-TKD practitioner and I honestly believe that most kicks are just redundant in a self-defense situation. They are unnecessarily risky, a good sweep kick can be brilliant but other than that I don't think I personally would bother with them.
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06-06-2014, 02:36 PM
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I'm an ex-TKD practitioner and I honestly believe that most kicks are just redundant in a self-defense situation. They are unnecessarily risky, a good sweep kick can be brilliant but other than that I don't think I personally would bother with them.
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I'd absolutely NEVER do a high kick in self-defence. Probably my favourite technique out of all of them if stomp kick to the standing leg when someone goes for a high kick. While I've easily got the flexibility to kick high, I prefer to do everything to the knees. My first technique in a "Let's fight, okay, meet you outside" situation would be stomp kick. Good chance of breaking their knee, you can cover up easy enough, and it probably gives you the distance to switch yo elbows.
Obviously that's the theory of it, some cunt might just knock me the fuck out first punch haha.
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I'm an ex-TKD practitioner and I honestly believe that most kicks are just redundant in a self-defense situation. They are unnecessarily risky, a good sweep kick can be brilliant but other than that I don't think I personally would bother with them.
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I'd absolutely NEVER do a high kick in self-defence. Probably my favourite technique out of all of them if stomp kick to the standing leg when someone goes for a high kick. While I've easily got the flexibility to kick high, I prefer to do everything to the knees. My first technique in a "Let's fight, okay, meet you outside" situation would be stomp kick. Good chance of breaking their knee, you can cover up easy enough, and it probably gives you the distance to switch yo elbows.
Obviously that's the theory of it, some cunt might just knock me the fuck out first punch haha.
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