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Unread 12-20-2019, 05:26 AM
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Default Changes I'd like to see

The site has been mired in controversy for days now, which is understandably taking up the time and energy of the staff. When the current drama is resolved, I think a number of changes are necessary in order to prevent further issues arising so we can all focus on positive things, like me winning the upcoming GC, instead of constant negatives and scandals. Here are my suggestions; most are unrelated to the current drama but in general I think they would make the site less affected by cheating:

1. Stop hiding staff votes. I have no idea why staff votes are currently hidden, it just creates tension and confusion for everyone else and removes transparency among staff voting (which isn't currently an issue but it's best to prevent it ever being so). Staff should be setting an example for the rest of the site with their votes, not keeping them secret and unaccountable.

2. Stop accounts popping back after years of inactivity to vote on important battles. The solution to this is simple in my opinion. If battling in a tournament is set to be determined on meeting a voting quota in the previous months, so should voting in one. If people could only vote on tournament battles once they'd voted a certain number of times in the current or previous season, that would prevent all of these ridiculous instances where someones buddies (or multis) return to the site after years away just to drop a vote and log off.

3. Redefine the FVC. Since the new voting badges system, I think that quantity of votes should no longer be considered the FVC's purpose. We are currently seeing a whole load of new incentives to vote more (tournament entry, cool badges, Auto's competition etc). I think the FVC should focus on having high-quality voters who make sure to cover every important battle and then are pushed to vote more, but with quality over quantity being the goal. When quantity is your #1 priority you end up with inexperienced voters with a high VP swaying battles, which is the opposite of the FVC's purpose.

4. Officially strip Row's titles (and award them to the finalists he cheated). I don't know a huge deal about Row, but I know that he was caught cheating in 1 final and the result was reversed, and there seems to be pretty concrete proof he did likewise in his other wins (i.e. the GC against Bleu). If he were officially no longer recognised, this precedent could be carried forward that cheating causes someone to lose all their titles, which adds a much weightier deterrent than a ban that may or may not last.

5. Make new accounts start with 0 VP for the first few days/weeks until they become familiar with LB. It isn't their fault that they don't know what they're doing, but it also isn't the fault of battlers who might lose because of it. If some sort of site-greeters program was in place to help guide them and teach them this it would really shorten the length of time this was necessary. (This would also stop people from making new multi accounts just to vote on their battles)

6. Have more staff. Idk if the current process is going to add 1 or 2 new staff members, but if it's only adding 1, I don't think that's enough. Basically this whole month Rai has clearly been extremely busy irl, which is totally fine and to be expected. This has meant that since 2FUEL stepped down, RULE has been basically the only active staff member, and there's a limit to how much time he can be online every day. If there was 1 more staff member they would hopefully (due to presumed time-zone differences) act like shift workers, each covering part of the day. However, we'd still only have 1 online staff member the majority of the time. In the case of a situation that needs to be addressed urgently, this means that that staff member must be the one to deal with it, even if they have a conflict of interest or its not their area of expertise. I still trust them to handle it, but it's much better if we have multiple staff online most of the time so this isn't an issue.



This isn't a list of complaints or an attack on how things are currently running, it's just things I'd like to see to make things better in the future. I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this, especially @Autograph @Rieper @Manhattan @IAmFlow and anyone else in the running to be moderator (sorry if I missed anyone). Feel free to disagree with anything I have to say but please give reasons why. Also anyone else with ideas for changes please raise them.
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Default Changes I'd like to see

The site has been mired in controversy for days now, which is understandably taking up the time and energy of the staff. When the current drama is resolved, I think a number of changes are necessary in order to prevent further issues arising so we can all focus on positive things, like me winning the upcoming GC, instead of constant negatives and scandals. Here are my suggestions; most are unrelated to the current drama but in general I think they would make the site less affected by cheating:

1. Stop hiding staff votes. I have no idea why staff votes are currently hidden, it just creates tension and confusion for everyone else and removes transparency among staff voting (which isn't currently an issue but it's best to prevent it ever being so). Staff should be setting an example for the rest of the site with their votes, not keeping them secret and unaccountable.

2. Stop accounts popping back after years of inactivity to vote on important battles. The solution to this is simple in my opinion. If battling in a tournament is set to be determined on meeting a voting quota in the previous months, so should voting in one. If people could only vote on tournament battles once they'd voted a certain number of times in the current or previous season, that would prevent all of these ridiculous instances where someones buddies (or multis) return to the site after years away just to drop a vote and log off.

3. Redefine the FVC. Since the new voting badges system, I think that quantity of votes should no longer be considered the FVC's purpose. We are currently seeing a whole load of new incentives to vote more (tournament entry, cool badges, Auto's competition etc). I think the FVC should focus on having high-quality voters who make sure to cover every important battle and then are pushed to vote more, but with quality over quantity being the goal. When quantity is your #1 priority you end up with inexperienced voters with a high VP swaying battles, which is the opposite of the FVC's purpose.

4. Officially strip Row's titles (and award them to the finalists he cheated). I don't know a huge deal about Row, but I know that he was caught cheating in 1 final and the result was reversed, and there seems to be pretty concrete proof he did likewise in his other wins (i.e. the GC against Bleu). If he were officially no longer recognised, this precedent could be carried forward that cheating causes someone to lose all their titles, which adds a much weightier deterrent than a ban that may or may not last.

5. Make new accounts start with 0 VP for the first few days/weeks until they become familiar with LB. It isn't their fault that they don't know what they're doing, but it also isn't the fault of battlers who might lose because of it. If some sort of site-greeters program was in place to help guide them and teach them this it would really shorten the length of time this was necessary. (This would also stop people from making new multi accounts just to vote on their battles)

6. Have more staff. Idk if the current process is going to add 1 or 2 new staff members, but if it's only adding 1, I don't think that's enough. Basically this whole month Rai has clearly been extremely busy irl, which is totally fine and to be expected. This has meant that since 2FUEL stepped down, RULE has been basically the only active staff member, and there's a limit to how much time he can be online every day. If there was 1 more staff member they would hopefully (due to presumed time-zone differences) act like shift workers, each covering part of the day. However, we'd still only have 1 online staff member the majority of the time. In the case of a situation that needs to be addressed urgently, this means that that staff member must be the one to deal with it, even if they have a conflict of interest or its not their area of expertise. I still trust them to handle it, but it's much better if we have multiple staff online most of the time so this isn't an issue.



This isn't a list of complaints or an attack on how things are currently running, it's just things I'd like to see to make things better in the future. I'm interested to hear everyone's thoughts on this, especially @Autograph @Rieper @Manhattan @IAmFlow and anyone else in the running to be moderator (sorry if I missed anyone). Feel free to disagree with anything I have to say but please give reasons why. Also anyone else with ideas for changes please raise them.
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