Kendrick - GOAT? Top 5? Top 10?

[IllerInstincts]

Originally Posted by babylon

If the argument is that pac so far has been the most impactful emcee we've seen, sure I accept that. Though I don't think Pac should be the actual GOAT for me, as he died so young & his style didn't get the time to develop real notably incredible lyricism, he kind of plateaued on the conceptual tracks / or general thug shit which he still executed amazingly well. While that lyricism is one of the only pillars of hiphop that I think Pac lacked, I feel the greatest of all time should be a legendary emcee well rounded in the four (or more) most important elements of hip-hop, not lack in one while they can shine in the others.

Is Pac the most influential rap artist of all time? Most probably, I cant think of anyone near his level on that scale. Is he the Goat to me? nahhh.


Moving on to the mainlining topic of this thread, I think that Kendrick is the most well rounded emcee who exists in the popular pool of the current wave. I definitely think that he sits around the top three position for current popular artists, if not being the actual head of the totem pole for the current hip-hop scene.


as for any real "goat" or real "greatest of ALL time" argument, I don't know if we've even seen a real candidate so far. For there to even be a greatest of all time he needs to blow most everyone else completely out of the water, just dunno if I've seen that in many emcees so far personally.

Pac isn't your goat because your not black so you could never relate to his music. Biggie & em was lyrical but pac was ahead of his time. Its not about having all the elements to be goat influences the mass & future generations to come. There music is timeless. The only people I feel thats done that is pac & em, pac did it 1st and better. 100 years from now, people wont be listening to young thug, lil uzi, kdot biggie or jay z. pac made music for the future

Pac, em, nas

[IllerInstincts]

Originally Posted by babylon

If the argument is that pac so far has been the most impactful emcee we've seen, sure I accept that. Though I don't think Pac should be the actual GOAT for me, as he died so young & his style didn't get the time to develop real notably incredible lyricism, he kind of plateaued on the conceptual tracks / or general thug shit which he still executed amazingly well. While that lyricism is one of the only pillars of hiphop that I think Pac lacked, I feel the greatest of all time should be a legendary emcee well rounded in the four (or more) most important elements of hip-hop, not lack in one while they can shine in the others.

Is Pac the most influential rap artist of all time? Most probably, I cant think of anyone near his level on that scale. Is he the Goat to me? nahhh.


Moving on to the mainlining topic of this thread, I think that Kendrick is the most well rounded emcee who exists in the popular pool of the current wave. I definitely think that he sits around the top three position for current popular artists, if not being the actual head of the totem pole for the current hip-hop scene.


as for any real "goat" or real "greatest of ALL time" argument, I don't know if we've even seen a real candidate so far. For there to even be a greatest of all time he needs to blow most everyone else completely out of the water, just dunno if I've seen that in many emcees so far personally.

Pac isn't your goat because your not black so you could never relate to his music. Biggie & em was lyrical but pac was ahead of his time. Its not about having all the elements to be goat influences the mass & future generations to come. There music is timeless. The only people I feel thats done that is pac & em, pac did it 1st and better. 100 years from now, people wont be listening to young thug, lil uzi, kdot biggie or jay z. pac made music for the future

Pac, em, nas