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06-27-2018, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Saiiyan
Kinda split on this. I feel like mods are in their position of authority and that should come with certain perks. Voting might be one of those perks but that's subjective.
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That’s another interesting point. Mods should have perks such as different access, user title, colour, maybe some emcee items or whatever ,but I don’t think something as tangible as double vp. Mods should be helping to benefit the site, and double vp sounds like more of a perk for the mod themselves rather than as something beneficial for the site, if you guys know what I mean.
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06-27-2018, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Saiiyan
Kinda split on this. I feel like mods are in their position of authority and that should come with certain perks. Voting might be one of those perks but that's subjective.
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That’s another interesting point. Mods should have perks such as different access, user title, colour, maybe some emcee items or whatever ,but I don’t think something as tangible as double vp. Mods should be helping to benefit the site, and double vp sounds like more of a perk for the mod themselves rather than as something beneficial for the site, if you guys know what I mean.
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06-27-2018, 03:42 PM
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I agree. I think a better way to do it would be, the more titles the more vp. Someone who has won multiple tourneys would know what to look for. While someone with a mod title isn't guaranteed to be the best battler or voter.
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A.) To answer OP. Mods are chosen, in part, on their ability to vote concisely, and understand the mechanisms of voting. It's one of the prerequisites for consideration. This is why they're allotted higher VP.(In the past, the FVC was used as a "recruitment pool" of sorts, for this very reason.) Mods aren't better voters because they're mods, they're mods because they're better voters.
B.) To respond to the quoted section. Being a good battler doesn't make you a good voter, either. Just because I battle a lot, and am good at it, doesn't mean I take the time necessary, or put in the effort necessary to vote consistently, and be a strong voter.
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06-27-2018, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bape
I agree. I think a better way to do it would be, the more titles the more vp. Someone who has won multiple tourneys would know what to look for. While someone with a mod title isn't guaranteed to be the best battler or voter.
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A.) To answer OP. Mods are chosen, in part, on their ability to vote concisely, and understand the mechanisms of voting. It's one of the prerequisites for consideration. This is why they're allotted higher VP.(In the past, the FVC was used as a "recruitment pool" of sorts, for this very reason.) Mods aren't better voters because they're mods, they're mods because they're better voters.
B.) To respond to the quoted section. Being a good battler doesn't make you a good voter, either. Just because I battle a lot, and am good at it, doesn't mean I take the time necessary, or put in the effort necessary to vote consistently, and be a strong voter.
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06-27-2018, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Rant
A.) To answer OP. Mods are chosen, in part, on their ability to vote concisely, and understand the mechanisms of voting. It's one of the prerequisites for consideration. This is why they're allotted higher VP.(In the past, the FVC was used as a "recruitment pool" of sorts, for this very reason.) Mods aren't better voters because they're mods, they're mods because they're better voters.
B.) To respond to the quoted section. Being a good battler doesn't make you a good voter, either. Just because I battle a lot, and am good at it, doesn't mean I take the time necessary, or put in the effort necessary to vote consistently, and be a strong voter.
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Fair points, I would contest that Mods overall are not super active voters either, and that responsibility is kind of being superceded by the FVC, anyway.
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06-27-2018, 03:44 PM
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A.) To answer OP. Mods are chosen, in part, on their ability to vote concisely, and understand the mechanisms of voting. It's one of the prerequisites for consideration. This is why they're allotted higher VP.(In the past, the FVC was used as a "recruitment pool" of sorts, for this very reason.) Mods aren't better voters because they're mods, they're mods because they're better voters.
B.) To respond to the quoted section. Being a good battler doesn't make you a good voter, either. Just because I battle a lot, and am good at it, doesn't mean I take the time necessary, or put in the effort necessary to vote consistently, and be a strong voter.
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Fair points, I would contest that Mods overall are not super active voters either, and that responsibility is kind of being superceded by the FVC, anyway.
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06-27-2018, 03:46 PM
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Whoops. Disregard my poll vote. I misclicked. I meant to click "yes."
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Originally Posted by MC Hyena
Fair points, I would contest that Mods overall are not super active voters either, and that responsibility is kind of being superceded by the FVC, anyway.
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What I mean by "vote consistently," isn't necessarily in regard to active voting. Something mods are DEFINITELY slacking on. But, what I mean, rather, is the ability to consistently vote well.
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Whoops. Disregard my poll vote. I misclicked. I meant to click "yes."
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Originally Posted by MC Hyena
Fair points, I would contest that Mods overall are not super active voters either, and that responsibility is kind of being superceded by the FVC, anyway.
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What I mean by "vote consistently," isn't necessarily in regard to active voting. Something mods are DEFINITELY slacking on. But, what I mean, rather, is the ability to consistently vote well.
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Student is a mod...
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Originally Posted by Rant
A.) To answer OP. Mods are chosen, in part, on their ability to vote concisely, and understand the mechanisms of voting. It's one of the prerequisites for consideration. This is why they're allotted higher VP.(In the past, the FVC was used as a "recruitment pool" of sorts, for this very reason.) Mods aren't better voters because they're mods, they're mods because they're better voters.
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Do you believe that in order to, maintain conciseness and high level voting - you require practice aka to vote/read battles consistently?
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Originally Posted by Rant
A.) To answer OP. Mods are chosen, in part, on their ability to vote concisely, and understand the mechanisms of voting. It's one of the prerequisites for consideration. This is why they're allotted higher VP.(In the past, the FVC was used as a "recruitment pool" of sorts, for this very reason.) Mods aren't better voters because they're mods, they're mods because they're better voters.
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Do you believe that in order to, maintain conciseness and high level voting - you require practice aka to vote/read battles consistently?
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VP should be based entirely on voting quality. If a mod drops good votes, they get good VP. If a regular user drops equally good votes, they get equally good VP. Simple.
Of course in practice, mods would be better voters on average than regular users so they would have higher average VP.
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VP should be based entirely on voting quality. If a mod drops good votes, they get good VP. If a regular user drops equally good votes, they get equally good VP. Simple.
Of course in practice, mods would be better voters on average than regular users so they would have higher average VP.
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06-27-2018, 04:15 PM
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@ Shodan,
Do you think there should be an alert we get, "Your VP has increased!" or something?
I feel since the creation of my account, my voting has got better, but I am still under the assumption, my VP is the EXACT same as the first day I created this account. We hear about when someone has 0VP, but no one tells you when a VP has increased. Do you think it should work both ways?
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@ Shodan,
Do you think there should be an alert we get, "Your VP has increased!" or something?
I feel since the creation of my account, my voting has got better, but I am still under the assumption, my VP is the EXACT same as the first day I created this account. We hear about when someone has 0VP, but no one tells you when a VP has increased. Do you think it should work both ways?
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06-27-2018, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Shodan
VP should be based entirely on voting quality. If a mod drops good votes, they get good VP. If a regular user drops equally good votes, they get equally good VP. Simple.
Of course in practice, mods would be better voters on average than regular users so they would have higher average VP.
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Another good point. Sure, if the mod is an active and solid voter, let them have more vop. But regular members who do the same or more should also find this reflected in their vp. It sounds weird af to me to have some arbitrary line in the sand saying all mods have this much , and all active (non troll, non hate) users have x amount. Why should someone who just signed up have just as much as yourself or Row or Seul or someone like that, and mods themselves have double that (or 1.5 whatever it is). I don’t think it should be automatically awarded and continuously kept to mods , and users stay stagnant at the same time. I get that someone would then have to moderate and check who’s dropping good votes, but they should be actively checking battles anyway
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Originally Posted by Shodan
VP should be based entirely on voting quality. If a mod drops good votes, they get good VP. If a regular user drops equally good votes, they get equally good VP. Simple.
Of course in practice, mods would be better voters on average than regular users so they would have higher average VP.
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Another good point. Sure, if the mod is an active and solid voter, let them have more vop. But regular members who do the same or more should also find this reflected in their vp. It sounds weird af to me to have some arbitrary line in the sand saying all mods have this much , and all active (non troll, non hate) users have x amount. Why should someone who just signed up have just as much as yourself or Row or Seul or someone like that, and mods themselves have double that (or 1.5 whatever it is). I don’t think it should be automatically awarded and continuously kept to mods , and users stay stagnant at the same time. I get that someone would then have to moderate and check who’s dropping good votes, but they should be actively checking battles anyway
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06-27-2018, 04:50 PM
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As I've said time and time again VP should = voting / battling prowess. Your ability to battle does play a factor into your understanding of this art form. If you understand the art form on a higher level there's no better way to exemplify it than writing / rapping. Not to say those who can't show their understanding through their own action have a lesser understanding in all cases but actions speak louder than words.
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As I've said time and time again VP should = voting / battling prowess. Your ability to battle does play a factor into your understanding of this art form. If you understand the art form on a higher level there's no better way to exemplify it than writing / rapping. Not to say those who can't show their understanding through their own action have a lesser understanding in all cases but actions speak louder than words.
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