The FVC Reformation Plans, rolling out soon.

[Askari]

The FVC has been a long-debated facet of Letsbeef that has gone from hype to falling off to active to inactive and abused at times. I have exams all week (hence why I haven't rolled out the reformation yet) so I will fully introduce this new system over the weekend/early next week. Here is what I propose, all feedback is welcome:

1. L4L
This will be the line for line style of voting. I intend to post a full L4L explanation when I roll out the new system. This will not be applicable to all battles, but will be a set of guidelines that FVC members will abide by when posting up detailed expos. Only certain dedicated members of the FVC will become part of the L4L scheme, I understand that not everyone can post essays every time they are asked.

2. Voting Rubix
As opposed to the L4L scheme, the voting rubix will be a set of detailed pointers to follow when voting on battles without the L4L system. This links me on to the next (and most important) part of the reformation..

3. The Ratings Guidelines
This will be a full marking scheme to be used in every single battle. A criteria for each rating number 1 to 10 will be fully explained in these guidelines, which will be used when voting on every battle that does not include an L4L expo by the FVC member. This means that if the voter does not have time to post an L4L they can refer the battlers back to the Ratings Guidelines thread and they can see why they received the ratings that they did.

There will be more, but these are the main points for now. Any issues or feedback feel free to let me know: this is for you guys' benefit more than anything.

[Askari]

The FVC has been a long-debated facet of Letsbeef that has gone from hype to falling off to active to inactive and abused at times. I have exams all week (hence why I haven't rolled out the reformation yet) so I will fully introduce this new system over the weekend/early next week. Here is what I propose, all feedback is welcome:

1. L4L
This will be the line for line style of voting. I intend to post a full L4L explanation when I roll out the new system. This will not be applicable to all battles, but will be a set of guidelines that FVC members will abide by when posting up detailed expos. Only certain dedicated members of the FVC will become part of the L4L scheme, I understand that not everyone can post essays every time they are asked.

2. Voting Rubix
As opposed to the L4L scheme, the voting rubix will be a set of detailed pointers to follow when voting on battles without the L4L system. This links me on to the next (and most important) part of the reformation..

3. The Ratings Guidelines
This will be a full marking scheme to be used in every single battle. A criteria for each rating number 1 to 10 will be fully explained in these guidelines, which will be used when voting on every battle that does not include an L4L expo by the FVC member. This means that if the voter does not have time to post an L4L they can refer the battlers back to the Ratings Guidelines thread and they can see why they received the ratings that they did.

There will be more, but these are the main points for now. Any issues or feedback feel free to let me know: this is for you guys' benefit more than anything.

[V3numb]

gotta talk to you about me and FVC bro.. i get@ya in the near future

[V3numb]

gotta talk to you about me and FVC bro.. i get@ya in the near future

[Ill Phenom]

......,Atta boy

[Ill Phenom]

......,Atta boy

[TalkSick]

I have a little question with one thing, " No Sway". I can see us getting bitched at for this (not that personally give a flying jesus). Is there exceptions for this or are we expected to do a full breakdown at all times? ( im not complaining by any means, just curious)

[TalkSick]

I have a little question with one thing, " No Sway". I can see us getting bitched at for this (not that personally give a flying jesus). Is there exceptions for this or are we expected to do a full breakdown at all times? ( im not complaining by any means, just curious)

[Revan]

"I think FVC members should get free exclusive membership for there troubles" - Revan

Good idea Revan, good idea...

[Revan]

"I think FVC members should get free exclusive membership for there troubles" - Revan

Good idea Revan, good idea...

[TalkSick]

Originally Posted by RULE

"I think FVC members should get free exclusive membership for there troubles" - Revan

Good idea Revan, good idea...

Actually a pretty good idea. For thosr who activly participate that is.

[TalkSick]

Originally Posted by RULE

"I think FVC members should get free exclusive membership for there troubles" - Revan

Good idea Revan, good idea...

Actually a pretty good idea. For thosr who activly participate that is.

Can We Get An Example Of Exactly What You Are Looking For @askrai

That Way We Know 100 - Plus I'm A Visual Person NeedTo See To DO LoL

Can We Get An Example Of Exactly What You Are Looking For @askrai

That Way We Know 100 - Plus I'm A Visual Person NeedTo See To DO LoL

[Phroxen]

Sounds good.. all of it. I'd even go as far as saying don't allow "no sway" votes. If you're swayed by someone else's breakdown.. then you shouldn't be voting in the first place. Also, if you aren't intelligent enough to at least explain who you voted for in a sentence or two.. again, you shouldn't be voting.



What I really think needs to happen: All votes and comments (even those made by mods) should be HIDDEN until you cast a vote. There is absolutely ZERO reason for anyone other than a mod to see others' votes before their own has been given. This would also encourage others to explain their votes... since they can't just look at someone else's vote and say "Yeah, what he/she said. It was close. Fair vote."

Also, as far as "no sway" is concerned.. either make it so you can't COMMENT until you VOTE... or some Text Mods need to start cleaning up all this crew spam repping shit. We know what crew you're in.. we see it by your name. Fifteen of your fucking crew members don't need to clog your battle with them saying "_______ crew is the best WE GOT DIZ SHIT" or whatever the fuck corny catchphrase of the week you've picked up. When lames come to vote and see 500 kids in the comments rooting for their own crew, they'll be inclined to drop a vote for them. Keep that fucking shit in the forums and out of battles.

[Phroxen]

Sounds good.. all of it. I'd even go as far as saying don't allow "no sway" votes. If you're swayed by someone else's breakdown.. then you shouldn't be voting in the first place. Also, if you aren't intelligent enough to at least explain who you voted for in a sentence or two.. again, you shouldn't be voting.



What I really think needs to happen: All votes and comments (even those made by mods) should be HIDDEN until you cast a vote. There is absolutely ZERO reason for anyone other than a mod to see others' votes before their own has been given. This would also encourage others to explain their votes... since they can't just look at someone else's vote and say "Yeah, what he/she said. It was close. Fair vote."

Also, as far as "no sway" is concerned.. either make it so you can't COMMENT until you VOTE... or some Text Mods need to start cleaning up all this crew spam repping shit. We know what crew you're in.. we see it by your name. Fifteen of your fucking crew members don't need to clog your battle with them saying "_______ crew is the best WE GOT DIZ SHIT" or whatever the fuck corny catchphrase of the week you've picked up. When lames come to vote and see 500 kids in the comments rooting for their own crew, they'll be inclined to drop a vote for them. Keep that fucking shit in the forums and out of battles.

[James 1]

Originally Posted by Phroxen

Sounds good.. all of it. I'd even go as far as saying don't allow "no sway" votes. If you're swayed by someone else's breakdown.. then you shouldn't be voting in the first place. Also, if you aren't intelligent enough to at least explain who you voted for in a sentence or two.. again, you shouldn't be voting.



What I really think needs to happen: All votes and comments (even those made by mods) should be HIDDEN until you cast a vote. There is absolutely ZERO reason for anyone other than a mod to see others' votes before their own has been given. This would also encourage others to explain their votes... since they can't just look at someone else's vote and say "Yeah, what he/she said. It was close. Fair vote."

Also, as far as "no sway" is concerned.. either make it so you can't COMMENT until you VOTE... or some Text Mods need to start cleaning up all this crew spam repping shit. We know what crew you're in.. we see it by your name. Fifteen of your fucking crew members don't need to clog your battle with them saying "_______ crew is the best WE GOT DIZ SHIT" or whatever the fuck corny catchphrase of the week you've picked up. When lames come to vote and see 500 kids in the comments rooting for their own crew, they'll be inclined to drop a vote for them. Keep that fucking shit in the forums and out of battles.

lmaoooo @ this

[James 1]

Originally Posted by Phroxen

Sounds good.. all of it. I'd even go as far as saying don't allow "no sway" votes. If you're swayed by someone else's breakdown.. then you shouldn't be voting in the first place. Also, if you aren't intelligent enough to at least explain who you voted for in a sentence or two.. again, you shouldn't be voting.



What I really think needs to happen: All votes and comments (even those made by mods) should be HIDDEN until you cast a vote. There is absolutely ZERO reason for anyone other than a mod to see others' votes before their own has been given. This would also encourage others to explain their votes... since they can't just look at someone else's vote and say "Yeah, what he/she said. It was close. Fair vote."

Also, as far as "no sway" is concerned.. either make it so you can't COMMENT until you VOTE... or some Text Mods need to start cleaning up all this crew spam repping shit. We know what crew you're in.. we see it by your name. Fifteen of your fucking crew members don't need to clog your battle with them saying "_______ crew is the best WE GOT DIZ SHIT" or whatever the fuck corny catchphrase of the week you've picked up. When lames come to vote and see 500 kids in the comments rooting for their own crew, they'll be inclined to drop a vote for them. Keep that fucking shit in the forums and out of battles.

lmaoooo @ this

[Just C]

Originally Posted by Phroxen

Sounds good.. all of it. I'd even go as far as saying don't allow "no sway" votes. If you're swayed by someone else's breakdown.. then you shouldn't be voting in the first place. Also, if you aren't intelligent enough to at least explain who you voted for in a sentence or two.. again, you shouldn't be voting.



What I really think needs to happen: All votes and comments (even those made by mods) should be HIDDEN until you cast a vote. There is absolutely ZERO reason for anyone other than a mod to see others' votes before their own has been given. This would also encourage others to explain their votes... since they can't just look at someone else's vote and say "Yeah, what he/she said. It was close. Fair vote."

Also, as far as "no sway" is concerned.. either make it so you can't COMMENT until you VOTE... or some Text Mods need to start cleaning up all this crew spam repping shit. We know what crew you're in.. we see it by your name. Fifteen of your fucking crew members don't need to clog your battle with them saying "_______ crew is the best WE GOT DIZ SHIT" or whatever the fuck corny catchphrase of the week you've picked up. When lames come to vote and see 500 kids in the comments rooting for their own crew, they'll be inclined to drop a vote for them. Keep that fucking shit in the forums and out of battles.

Your 2nd point. Myself and other staff have been suggesting this for months now *shrugs*

Your final point. Lol trust I'm w/you on that. I personally don't mind the odd 1 but alot of times crews o.d n start spamming they crew. I personally don't get it why people do it.. I probably done it once in a blue moon and even that's too much. But it's not just that. Crew members blatantly sway aswell. I.E Quoting 1 of your crew members lines then saying "bodied" at the end. childish little shit like that. Crew members shouldn't be able to comment on battles.

[Just C]

Originally Posted by Phroxen

Sounds good.. all of it. I'd even go as far as saying don't allow "no sway" votes. If you're swayed by someone else's breakdown.. then you shouldn't be voting in the first place. Also, if you aren't intelligent enough to at least explain who you voted for in a sentence or two.. again, you shouldn't be voting.



What I really think needs to happen: All votes and comments (even those made by mods) should be HIDDEN until you cast a vote. There is absolutely ZERO reason for anyone other than a mod to see others' votes before their own has been given. This would also encourage others to explain their votes... since they can't just look at someone else's vote and say "Yeah, what he/she said. It was close. Fair vote."

Also, as far as "no sway" is concerned.. either make it so you can't COMMENT until you VOTE... or some Text Mods need to start cleaning up all this crew spam repping shit. We know what crew you're in.. we see it by your name. Fifteen of your fucking crew members don't need to clog your battle with them saying "_______ crew is the best WE GOT DIZ SHIT" or whatever the fuck corny catchphrase of the week you've picked up. When lames come to vote and see 500 kids in the comments rooting for their own crew, they'll be inclined to drop a vote for them. Keep that fucking shit in the forums and out of battles.

Your 2nd point. Myself and other staff have been suggesting this for months now *shrugs*

Your final point. Lol trust I'm w/you on that. I personally don't mind the odd 1 but alot of times crews o.d n start spamming they crew. I personally don't get it why people do it.. I probably done it once in a blue moon and even that's too much. But it's not just that. Crew members blatantly sway aswell. I.E Quoting 1 of your crew members lines then saying "bodied" at the end. childish little shit like that. Crew members shouldn't be able to comment on battles.