READ!!

[Autograph]

Im not the first to make a thread like this, and im sure i wont be the last. We need to get voting participation up, especially on the audio side. that means everyone, including me, and whoevers reading this. Im guessing the new feature that was added that kept track of how many votes youve done on both audio and text was suppose to somehow encourage people to vote more but its really not working. Theres alot of FVC threads for audio and text but the majority of them get ignored/slept on. Alot of the battles i see have zero to 3 votes at max unless the participants names are somewhat familiar to everyone. I work from my computer so its easier for me to throw votes out during the day more than most. All im asking is, when you get a vote on your battle, try and return it to someone, doesnt really matter who. If your goin to post links in my FV Thread or anyone elses hoping for a fair tossed, then return it to someone. I posted this in both general talk and text lounge to try and get the full attention it deserves.

[Autograph]

Im not the first to make a thread like this, and im sure i wont be the last. We need to get voting participation up, especially on the audio side. that means everyone, including me, and whoevers reading this. Im guessing the new feature that was added that kept track of how many votes youve done on both audio and text was suppose to somehow encourage people to vote more but its really not working. Theres alot of FVC threads for audio and text but the majority of them get ignored/slept on. Alot of the battles i see have zero to 3 votes at max unless the participants names are somewhat familiar to everyone. I work from my computer so its easier for me to throw votes out during the day more than most. All im asking is, when you get a vote on your battle, try and return it to someone, doesnt really matter who. If your goin to post links in my FV Thread or anyone elses hoping for a fair tossed, then return it to someone. I posted this in both general talk and text lounge to try and get the full attention it deserves.

@Autographh for Mod!!

I agree. We need to get the site back to it's old self and throwing votes and distributing proper feedback will help that.

@Autographh for Mod!!

I agree. We need to get the site back to it's old self and throwing votes and distributing proper feedback will help that.

Originally Posted by Lockhart

@Autographh for Mod!!

He's already done more than some of the recent decisions

Originally Posted by Lockhart

@Autographh for Mod!!

He's already done more than some of the recent decisions

[Autograph]

thanks @Lockhart . im sure alot of people agree but it still yields the same results. return a vote people

[Autograph]

thanks @Lockhart . im sure alot of people agree but it still yields the same results. return a vote people

[Dysfunctional]

@Erebus 100% agree with that statement lol

[Dysfunctional]

@Erebus 100% agree with that statement lol

[Autograph]

im on here 24/7 anyways. im open to the ideaaa. @RULE

now quit postin and go vote.. dont let me catch u not votin people.. smh...

[Autograph]

im on here 24/7 anyways. im open to the ideaaa. @RULE

now quit postin and go vote.. dont let me catch u not votin people.. smh...

[PackNflow]

I totally agree, Nothing ruins my mood to elevate more than a battle with sick lines gettin ignored. Ill try returning more votes

[PackNflow]

I totally agree, Nothing ruins my mood to elevate more than a battle with sick lines gettin ignored. Ill try returning more votes

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Sun God

As far as what to do to help the audio side...I think in order to have a proper perspective on that, we'd have to correctly identify exactly why it's in the shape that it's now in.

1) Audio members (from what I've seen) don't vote on battles at the same rate that they drop them. The lack of voting is probably the BIGGEST issue the audio side faces. There are many times when you look on the audio battle hotlist and its not even filled to the point where OSKAR even had to bribe people with emcee items at one time just to get them to vote and fill the hotlist.

2) The modding of the audio side has been less than ideal. I've always felt like text mods put in way more work toward running tournies and generating new activity than audio mods. And since we've done away with specifying text and audio mods, I feel like the audio section is even less looked after. And this ain't a crack at anyone but I can remember when Schematix was practically the only audio mod doing anything...then he'd go inactive and OSKAR would do some stuff. It just always seem like we could never get the majority of audio mods FULLY active all at the same time. Moreover, when considering new mods for the audio side, the pool has always been way more limited and less appealing whereas with text, quite a number of worthy candidates always spring to mind...and this brings me to my next point...

3) Audio members on the site in general are way less active in the forums. Most audio members don't really check out the forums like text members. They just log on to battle and that's it. the problem with that is it's in the forums where a lot of activity are generated. Honestly, if anyone thinks...how many non-mod initiated forum tournies have we had on the audio side? On the text side, I can think of Dysfunctional's ULC tournies, Row's Jokes over Bars, the compliment tourney that IV or whoever ran at one point...the list goes on. These type of things generate activity and excitement, but how often do you see a regular audio member post an idea like that in the audio lounge and get people to sign up? If they did, the audio side would be in better shape.

I'll now write what I think could be a solution to these 3 problems...

1) I think it will take something radical to help the voting trend on the audio side. The audio FVC won't work. I've ran the audio FVC and if you throw a sign up, you might only get 2 worthy candidates sign up whereas the text side might see 10, and the two people who sign up will barely even get any requests from somebody other than Bnas....why? BECAUSE AUDIO MEMBERS DON'T CHECK THE FORUMS! You'll need something like a "Vote Train." This would be similar to the "Guild of Votes" idea that @Dissizit had a while ago. Basically, people step into queue and say they need votes. they are then given 5 links to vote on (these links are the battles of other people who had previously stepped into queue) and they will also receive 5 votes from people who step into queue after them on the link that they posted as needing votes. This is different from the FVC because it is GUARANTEED votes and its also coming from other regular members as opposed to a specially designated group. It will increase the voting on the audio side...trust me. But my next point is...

2) You'll need somebody to mod such a system as the "Vote train." The staff should be encouraged to become more active on the audio side...this includes listening to and voting on whack ass shitty audio battles every once in a while (I know, its torture). It also includes doing what I said i don't see regular audio members doing too often...starting unique forum tournaments and activities for the audio guys that are different from the regular audio tourney schedule. If none of them want to run such a system as the "Vote Train", then we should find someone who is very active and willing to because it'll take a lot of work. You might even need two mods tbh. Running it might involve making a secret forum that only staff can see to use as a bulletin board because if the links they get are only from battles of other people in queue, you wouldn't want to create a situation where people are trading votes so they shouldn't know who else is in queue. Only the mod running it should know who's involved and in what order.

3) Whenever forum tournies and activities are set up for audio members, they should be announced via notices or server announcements from the chat bar. If it's always in the forums, a lot of them won't see it. As more activities like this are set up, the staff should also be encouraged to engage audio members so that they check out the forums and find out what's going on. I'm pretty sure if we do this diligently, more of them will start checking out the forums which will lead to greater activity on the audio side.

Eventually, that "Vote train" might be automated through some coding where people just submit a link as if they're applying for an award and they receive an automatic PM with 5 links to vote on. But for now, we can get someone to moderate it and when people start getting involved, I'm sure it will take off and increase voting on audio battles.
2 cents.

[NOBLE]

Originally Posted by Sun God

As far as what to do to help the audio side...I think in order to have a proper perspective on that, we'd have to correctly identify exactly why it's in the shape that it's now in.

1) Audio members (from what I've seen) don't vote on battles at the same rate that they drop them. The lack of voting is probably the BIGGEST issue the audio side faces. There are many times when you look on the audio battle hotlist and its not even filled to the point where OSKAR even had to bribe people with emcee items at one time just to get them to vote and fill the hotlist.

2) The modding of the audio side has been less than ideal. I've always felt like text mods put in way more work toward running tournies and generating new activity than audio mods. And since we've done away with specifying text and audio mods, I feel like the audio section is even less looked after. And this ain't a crack at anyone but I can remember when Schematix was practically the only audio mod doing anything...then he'd go inactive and OSKAR would do some stuff. It just always seem like we could never get the majority of audio mods FULLY active all at the same time. Moreover, when considering new mods for the audio side, the pool has always been way more limited and less appealing whereas with text, quite a number of worthy candidates always spring to mind...and this brings me to my next point...

3) Audio members on the site in general are way less active in the forums. Most audio members don't really check out the forums like text members. They just log on to battle and that's it. the problem with that is it's in the forums where a lot of activity are generated. Honestly, if anyone thinks...how many non-mod initiated forum tournies have we had on the audio side? On the text side, I can think of Dysfunctional's ULC tournies, Row's Jokes over Bars, the compliment tourney that IV or whoever ran at one point...the list goes on. These type of things generate activity and excitement, but how often do you see a regular audio member post an idea like that in the audio lounge and get people to sign up? If they did, the audio side would be in better shape.

I'll now write what I think could be a solution to these 3 problems...

1) I think it will take something radical to help the voting trend on the audio side. The audio FVC won't work. I've ran the audio FVC and if you throw a sign up, you might only get 2 worthy candidates sign up whereas the text side might see 10, and the two people who sign up will barely even get any requests from somebody other than Bnas....why? BECAUSE AUDIO MEMBERS DON'T CHECK THE FORUMS! You'll need something like a "Vote Train." This would be similar to the "Guild of Votes" idea that @Dissizit had a while ago. Basically, people step into queue and say they need votes. they are then given 5 links to vote on (these links are the battles of other people who had previously stepped into queue) and they will also receive 5 votes from people who step into queue after them on the link that they posted as needing votes. This is different from the FVC because it is GUARANTEED votes and its also coming from other regular members as opposed to a specially designated group. It will increase the voting on the audio side...trust me. But my next point is...

2) You'll need somebody to mod such a system as the "Vote train." The staff should be encouraged to become more active on the audio side...this includes listening to and voting on whack ass shitty audio battles every once in a while (I know, its torture). It also includes doing what I said i don't see regular audio members doing too often...starting unique forum tournaments and activities for the audio guys that are different from the regular audio tourney schedule. If none of them want to run such a system as the "Vote Train", then we should find someone who is very active and willing to because it'll take a lot of work. You might even need two mods tbh. Running it might involve making a secret forum that only staff can see to use as a bulletin board because if the links they get are only from battles of other people in queue, you wouldn't want to create a situation where people are trading votes so they shouldn't know who else is in queue. Only the mod running it should know who's involved and in what order.

3) Whenever forum tournies and activities are set up for audio members, they should be announced via notices or server announcements from the chat bar. If it's always in the forums, a lot of them won't see it. As more activities like this are set up, the staff should also be encouraged to engage audio members so that they check out the forums and find out what's going on. I'm pretty sure if we do this diligently, more of them will start checking out the forums which will lead to greater activity on the audio side.

Eventually, that "Vote train" might be automated through some coding where people just submit a link as if they're applying for an award and they receive an automatic PM with 5 links to vote on. But for now, we can get someone to moderate it and when people start getting involved, I'm sure it will take off and increase voting on audio battles.
2 cents.

[Autograph]

Sounds About Right..

[Autograph]

Sounds About Right..

[Saxx]

Amen @Autographh I think its gotten worse during the GC but I have 4 battles open at the minute with very low votes. How am I supposed to stay active and motivated when the site ain't even functioning at thr moment!

[Saxx]

Amen @Autographh I think its gotten worse during the GC but I have 4 battles open at the minute with very low votes. How am I supposed to stay active and motivated when the site ain't even functioning at thr moment!