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  #1  
Unread 05-16-2015, 11:22 AM
Shodan
One Bar Champion
The Fire Lord
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,969
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2 Won / 4 Lost
Estimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.75/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.75/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.75/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.75/10 stars
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111 Won / 73 Lost
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3 Won / 6 Lost
Default Question for the staff.

Can VP be reduced solely on the basis of someone being a weak battler, or does someone have to drop poor/hate/self votes to lose it?
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Spoiler for Ya Boi's Signature:
Spoiler for My punches hit you like:
Spoiler for GIF, courtesy of NOBLE:
Spoiler for A wise man once said:
"Wtf are yaw readin nigga this nigga dont even make ssince and have the niggas who comment be garbage but tryna give at vice i been in real battles for money and won i haven't seen not one hot verse on here accept maybe a couple yaw some fuckin haters o. Me i punch this nigga like a speed bag smoked boots"

- space_dabree, discussing the outcome of his battle with Shodan.
Spoiler for More words of wisdom:
"Your iq is too low to vote on my shit. Grab ddthabeast, take some literacy courses, get hooked on phonics and come talk to me then."

- Teeteegee, discussing a fair vote left which Shodan left on a battle of his.
Spoiler for ILLoKWENT's declaration of love:
"fuck off lil faggit.. before i tare your dick off , and shove it up your dads ass while your slut of a mom makes a home video documenting the whole situation as your sister masturbates to mozart.capeesh?" The first person to notice the existence of this line of text and PM me about it is entitled to 50 of the credits on my account. Let's see how long this stays undiscovered. - Added May 1, 2019 - EDIT: Good job Culture for finding this on May 11, 2019! Faster than expect. Prize now rescinded. Will remove this sometime...
- ILLoKWENT, in response to a rhetorical question.
Spoiler for More love from illokwent:
"Because he lacks any form of maturity to do grown folk stuff... And u can quote me on that.."

- Read, and then sigged.


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Unread 05-16-2015, 11:22 AM   #1
 
Shodan
One Bar Champion
The Fire Lord
Estimated Skill in Audio: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 6.18/10 stars
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2 Won / 4 Lost
Estimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.18/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.75/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.75/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.75/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 6.75/10 stars
Ranked Text Record
111 Won / 73 Lost
Exclusive Text Record
3 Won / 6 Lost
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Voted: 35 audio / 1085 text
Posts: 2,969
Mentioned: 1226 Post(s)
Tagged: 61 Thread(s)


Default Question for the staff.

Can VP be reduced solely on the basis of someone being a weak battler, or does someone have to drop poor/hate/self votes to lose it?
__________________
I'm retired from LetsBeef.
Spoiler for Ya Boi's Signature:
Spoiler for My punches hit you like:
Spoiler for GIF, courtesy of NOBLE:
Spoiler for A wise man once said:
"Wtf are yaw readin nigga this nigga dont even make ssince and have the niggas who comment be garbage but tryna give at vice i been in real battles for money and won i haven't seen not one hot verse on here accept maybe a couple yaw some fuckin haters o. Me i punch this nigga like a speed bag smoked boots"

- space_dabree, discussing the outcome of his battle with Shodan.
Spoiler for More words of wisdom:
"Your iq is too low to vote on my shit. Grab ddthabeast, take some literacy courses, get hooked on phonics and come talk to me then."

- Teeteegee, discussing a fair vote left which Shodan left on a battle of his.
Spoiler for ILLoKWENT's declaration of love:
"fuck off lil faggit.. before i tare your dick off , and shove it up your dads ass while your slut of a mom makes a home video documenting the whole situation as your sister masturbates to mozart.capeesh?" The first person to notice the existence of this line of text and PM me about it is entitled to 50 of the credits on my account. Let's see how long this stays undiscovered. - Added May 1, 2019 - EDIT: Good job Culture for finding this on May 11, 2019! Faster than expect. Prize now rescinded. Will remove this sometime...
- ILLoKWENT, in response to a rhetorical question.
Spoiler for More love from illokwent:
"Because he lacks any form of maturity to do grown folk stuff... And u can quote me on that.."

- Read, and then sigged.


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Unread 05-16-2015, 11:54 AM
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VP is only in/decreased dependent upon one's competence when voting. Bnas already has 0 VP, anyway. >.>
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Unread 05-16-2015, 11:54 AM   #2
 
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VP is only in/decreased dependent upon one's competence when voting. Bnas already has 0 VP, anyway. >.>
 
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Unread 05-16-2015, 04:15 PM
NOBLE
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6,106
Mentioned: 3633 Post(s)
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4 Won / 0 Lost
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30 Won / 8 Lost
Exclusive Text Record
1 Won / 1 Lost
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VP is raised/lowered solely on how you vote, not how weak or strong you are as a battler.
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Unread 05-16-2015, 04:15 PM   #3
 
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4 Won / 0 Lost
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30 Won / 8 Lost
Exclusive Text Record
1 Won / 1 Lost
 
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VP is raised/lowered solely on how you vote, not how weak or strong you are as a battler.
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Unread 05-16-2015, 09:41 PM
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what rant nob said
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Unread 05-16-2015, 09:41 PM   #4
 
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what rant nob said
 
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Unread 05-17-2015, 08:00 PM
Mindless Mindless is on FIRE! 5+ wins in a row!
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HEBREW BANHAMMER
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,578
Mentioned: 713 Post(s)
Tagged: 56 Thread(s)
Estimated Skill in Audio: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Audio: 5.83/10 stars
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3 Won / 1 Lost
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34 Won / 6 Lost
Exclusive Text Record
1 Won / 1 Lost
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VP is hella flawed
Elaborate please.
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Unread 05-17-2015, 08:00 PM   #5
 
Mindless Mindless is on FIRE! 5+ wins in a row!
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3 Won / 1 Lost
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Ranked Text Record
34 Won / 6 Lost
Exclusive Text Record
1 Won / 1 Lost
 
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VP is hella flawed
Elaborate please.
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Unread 05-18-2015, 04:51 PM
Mindless Mindless is on FIRE! 5+ wins in a row!
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HEBREW BANHAMMER
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,578
Mentioned: 713 Post(s)
Tagged: 56 Thread(s)
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3 Won / 1 Lost
Estimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.84/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.84/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.84/10 stars
Ranked Text Record
34 Won / 6 Lost
Exclusive Text Record
1 Won / 1 Lost
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Cats who don't have the understanding / ability of elite writers / emcees have 4 VP (i.e. pugz) if im not mistaken. while most of those who have actually mastered the craft are at half of that. You got guys still voting off preference cuz they don't know how to assess the amount of skill / know how it takes to write shit
The only people who have their VP raised are staff, FVC and people who have shown themselves to be good voters over time but I don't think there's a whole lot of those. Most of the staff are at least decent battlers and have a fairly good grasp of the craft. A weighted voting system is generally the best way to go. By giving people who are shit voters less power and good voters more it's a lot easier to achieve a balance and get good results consistently.

That said, it's still all subjective at the end of the day. There's no real objective metric to measure verses by and it all comes down to opinion. What you say is played may wow another person or vice versa.
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Unread 05-18-2015, 04:51 PM   #6
 
Mindless Mindless is on FIRE! 5+ wins in a row!
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3 Won / 1 Lost
Estimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 5.83/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.84/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.84/10 starsEstimated Skill in Text: 7.84/10 stars
Ranked Text Record
34 Won / 6 Lost
Exclusive Text Record
1 Won / 1 Lost
 
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Voted: 95 audio / 718 text
Posts: 6,578
Mentioned: 713 Post(s)
Tagged: 56 Thread(s)


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Originally Posted by Thorough View Post
Cats who don't have the understanding / ability of elite writers / emcees have 4 VP (i.e. pugz) if im not mistaken. while most of those who have actually mastered the craft are at half of that. You got guys still voting off preference cuz they don't know how to assess the amount of skill / know how it takes to write shit
The only people who have their VP raised are staff, FVC and people who have shown themselves to be good voters over time but I don't think there's a whole lot of those. Most of the staff are at least decent battlers and have a fairly good grasp of the craft. A weighted voting system is generally the best way to go. By giving people who are shit voters less power and good voters more it's a lot easier to achieve a balance and get good results consistently.

That said, it's still all subjective at the end of the day. There's no real objective metric to measure verses by and it all comes down to opinion. What you say is played may wow another person or vice versa.
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