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Unread 01-27-2015, 01:52 PM
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Default are u fucking kidding me ??

wait ..so now battles are WON by bars that make absolutely no fucking sense and are just random words linked together ??? seriously ? how come the only vote against me is by a fvc member and everyone else who voted said the guys bars made no sense and voted for me ?? want some fvc members to look at this and tell me if I right or just fucking imagining it !!!

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Unread 01-27-2015, 01:52 PM   #1
 
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Default are u fucking kidding me ??

wait ..so now battles are WON by bars that make absolutely no fucking sense and are just random words linked together ??? seriously ? how come the only vote against me is by a fvc member and everyone else who voted said the guys bars made no sense and voted for me ?? want some fvc members to look at this and tell me if I right or just fucking imagining it !!!

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Unread 01-27-2015, 02:02 PM
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swaying while the battle is still opened is against the rules .. im obligated to delete this thread.

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swaying while the battle is still opened is against the rules .. im obligated to delete this thread.

but

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Unread 01-27-2015, 02:28 PM
Lizman Lizman is on FIRE! 5+ wins in a row!
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Ok so at this point you guys are just being willfully ignorant / not understanding on purpose / or just trolling.
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Unread 01-27-2015, 02:29 PM
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yo sorry @Row , wasn't trying to sway , just made me mad when I saw that vote and expo ...
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Unread 01-27-2015, 02:29 PM   #4
 
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Unread 01-27-2015, 02:45 PM
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Steve, apart from the whole "open battle swaying," I voted against you because your "bars," while their construction was better than your opponents, were basically meaningless, as far as I am concerned.

"seriously I don't know what this MAN PREACHES but this FAG REACHES ! more confusing than one of 'RANTS' SPEECHES !"

"what ya talkin bout fool ? I should rip out this NIGGAS BLADDER for chatting all that JIBBER JABBER ! if ya want to elevat ya should by a BIGGER LADDER ! "

Lolwat? These ain't bars, fam. Where are the punches? Where are the concepts? Rant/rant is a concept now? No, it ain't. Your "bars" were so bad that your opponent won this battle solely on the basis of the fact that he didn't try to punch, which meant I wasn't cringing throughout his entire drop. That may sound odd, but your attempts at punching were so fucking embarassing that they actually lowered the quality of your verse. The fact you're arguing otherwise proves that you are a gigantic lolcow.

Oh, yes, and I know I'm swaying with this comment, but I don't care, since this is already a sway thread. I won't complain if this comment gets deleted.
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"Wtf are yaw readin nigga this nigga dont even make ssince and have the niggas who comment be garbage but tryna give at vice i been in real battles for money and won i haven't seen not one hot verse on here accept maybe a couple yaw some fuckin haters o. Me i punch this nigga like a speed bag smoked boots"

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"fuck off lil faggit.. before i tare your dick off , and shove it up your dads ass while your slut of a mom makes a home video documenting the whole situation as your sister masturbates to mozart.capeesh?" The first person to notice the existence of this line of text and PM me about it is entitled to 50 of the credits on my account. Let's see how long this stays undiscovered. - Added May 1, 2019 - EDIT: Good job Culture for finding this on May 11, 2019! Faster than expect. Prize now rescinded. Will remove this sometime...
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Shodan
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Steve, apart from the whole "open battle swaying," I voted against you because your "bars," while their construction was better than your opponents, were basically meaningless, as far as I am concerned.

"seriously I don't know what this MAN PREACHES but this FAG REACHES ! more confusing than one of 'RANTS' SPEECHES !"

"what ya talkin bout fool ? I should rip out this NIGGAS BLADDER for chatting all that JIBBER JABBER ! if ya want to elevat ya should by a BIGGER LADDER ! "

Lolwat? These ain't bars, fam. Where are the punches? Where are the concepts? Rant/rant is a concept now? No, it ain't. Your "bars" were so bad that your opponent won this battle solely on the basis of the fact that he didn't try to punch, which meant I wasn't cringing throughout his entire drop. That may sound odd, but your attempts at punching were so fucking embarassing that they actually lowered the quality of your verse. The fact you're arguing otherwise proves that you are a gigantic lolcow.

Oh, yes, and I know I'm swaying with this comment, but I don't care, since this is already a sway thread. I won't complain if this comment gets deleted.
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Spoiler for Ya Boi's Signature:
Spoiler for My punches hit you like:
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Spoiler for A wise man once said:
"Wtf are yaw readin nigga this nigga dont even make ssince and have the niggas who comment be garbage but tryna give at vice i been in real battles for money and won i haven't seen not one hot verse on here accept maybe a couple yaw some fuckin haters o. Me i punch this nigga like a speed bag smoked boots"

- space_dabree, discussing the outcome of his battle with Shodan.
Spoiler for More words of wisdom:
"Your iq is too low to vote on my shit. Grab ddthabeast, take some literacy courses, get hooked on phonics and come talk to me then."

- Teeteegee, discussing a fair vote left which Shodan left on a battle of his.
Spoiler for ILLoKWENT's declaration of love:
"fuck off lil faggit.. before i tare your dick off , and shove it up your dads ass while your slut of a mom makes a home video documenting the whole situation as your sister masturbates to mozart.capeesh?" The first person to notice the existence of this line of text and PM me about it is entitled to 50 of the credits on my account. Let's see how long this stays undiscovered. - Added May 1, 2019 - EDIT: Good job Culture for finding this on May 11, 2019! Faster than expect. Prize now rescinded. Will remove this sometime...
- ILLoKWENT, in response to a rhetorical question.
Spoiler for More love from illokwent:
"Because he lacks any form of maturity to do grown folk stuff... And u can quote me on that.."

- Read, and then sigged.



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Unread 01-27-2015, 03:03 PM
ILLoKWENT ILLoKWENT is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!ILLoKWENT is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!ILLoKWENT is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!
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Steve, apart from the whole "open battle swaying," I voted against you because your "bars," while their construction was better than your opponents, were basically meaningless, as far as I am concerned.

"seriously I don't know what this MAN PREACHES but this FAG REACHES ! more confusing than one of 'RANTS' SPEECHES !"

"what ya talkin bout fool ? I should rip out this NIGGAS BLADDER for chatting all that JIBBER JABBER ! if ya want to elevat ya should by a BIGGER LADDER ! "

Lolwat? These ain't bars, fam. Where are the punches? Where are the concepts? Rant/rant is a concept now? No, it ain't. Your "bars" were so bad that your opponent won this battle solely on the basis of the fact that he didn't try to punch. .
remember the point of a punch is to diss your opponent whether straight forward..ex.so and so is a sheep fucker....or. using similes/metas/analogies etc...as a means to up the creativity of ones insult... in this case i see two types of figures of speech..simile and metaphor.... although very very rudimentary are still apparent... first one is him insulting his opponents bars as confusing and comparing it rants speeches using like or 'as'.....so his c9ncept here is 'confusing'..his setup was also relevant that led to his conclusion....next concept is 'elevate further' connecting with bigger ladder...the setup here was a fail. It didnt sculpt out why the opponent wants to elevate further..ex.. dude asking for advice in the threads or anything else that setsup the concept......bottomline is although they arent exactly cutting edge HOF material ..they still utilize imagry and allusion
that works at insulting his opponent..
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ILLoKWENT ILLoKWENT is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!ILLoKWENT is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!ILLoKWENT is on FIRE! 30+ wins in a row!
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Steve, apart from the whole "open battle swaying," I voted against you because your "bars," while their construction was better than your opponents, were basically meaningless, as far as I am concerned.

"seriously I don't know what this MAN PREACHES but this FAG REACHES ! more confusing than one of 'RANTS' SPEECHES !"

"what ya talkin bout fool ? I should rip out this NIGGAS BLADDER for chatting all that JIBBER JABBER ! if ya want to elevat ya should by a BIGGER LADDER ! "

Lolwat? These ain't bars, fam. Where are the punches? Where are the concepts? Rant/rant is a concept now? No, it ain't. Your "bars" were so bad that your opponent won this battle solely on the basis of the fact that he didn't try to punch. .
remember the point of a punch is to diss your opponent whether straight forward..ex.so and so is a sheep fucker....or. using similes/metas/analogies etc...as a means to up the creativity of ones insult... in this case i see two types of figures of speech..simile and metaphor.... although very very rudimentary are still apparent... first one is him insulting his opponents bars as confusing and comparing it rants speeches using like or 'as'.....so his c9ncept here is 'confusing'..his setup was also relevant that led to his conclusion....next concept is 'elevate further' connecting with bigger ladder...the setup here was a fail. It didnt sculpt out why the opponent wants to elevate further..ex.. dude asking for advice in the threads or anything else that setsup the concept......bottomline is although they arent exactly cutting edge HOF material ..they still utilize imagry and allusion
that works at insulting his opponent..
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