Had my winner here! Felt the one who lost, lost it coz of maintaining the same scheme throughout. That made it lose the impact of some punches which couldve been hard hitting enough to win this

Dropping dimes because of the 32, Rai at first I thought you were gonna go full scheme which would've been really impressive , but it's all good,  .any way enjoyed alot of the personal angles you threw in conjunction with concepts. Some highlights the whole Celsius camo bars was well done,  and Nick bar was funny.. wasn't feeling bandwagin, tho. Erron very impressed with u scheming all the way thru. Felt u forced a few to make some bars work. Ex .I GO TO LIFT AND QUICKLY THE SPRAY THE MAGS.  is grammatically poor.. conceptually was decent. A couple fails like 'carrying nines' and track record pole position.. I did like the pager flash, and Clinton bar.. comes down to preference here and I enjoyed rais bars a little more, because of his more stronger use of personals and story telling.. could go either way tho. Fairs in. 

I love u guys  

The multies and wordplay here is crazy.... but I won't vote. i cant decide lol

This was hot, worth the long read. Both y’all brought good bars, but honestly Lock came out ahead in all categories. Shit flowed smooth. Fv 

April LBT PPV - Fool's Gold Championship Battle, good luck to both of you!

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Posted on: 2018-05-02 15:07:10

FUCKIN HELL MAYNE THIS SHIT WAS REALLY FUCKIN GOOD FROM BOTH SIDES...... FROM RAI (i always thought you name rhymed with sky lol) ANYWAY I LIKED THA X-RAY LINE, THA CHICKEN CROSSIN THA ROAD WOZ REALLY FUCKIN GOOD, CUNT TAKES IT AGAINST WILL WOZ REALLY WELL WORDED, REALLY LIKED THA NICHOLAS REFERENCES THA 'CHIRISTMAS GIFTS' LEADIN INTO 'EMOTIONS FOR NICHOLAS' WOZ DOPE AS FUCK!........ IMPRESSED THAT ERRON KEPT THA SAME RHYME SCHEME THROUGHOUT AN KEPT SHIT REAL CONSISTANT, THA START WOZ GOOD, LIKED THA HOMER SIMPSON PART THAT WOZ NICELY WORDED, CLINTON LINE WOZ NICELY DONE, THA LOIS WHEN SHE TASTES THA SACK WOZ FUNNY AS FUCK, AND THA CLOSER WOZ NICE TOO......... OK NOW IVE GOTTA SOMEHOW PICK A WINNER FROM THIS, I'D PROLLY READ THIS 5 DIFFERENT TIMES AN GET A DIFFERENT WINNER EACH TIME I READ THIS SHIZ........AIIGHT I THINK ONE DEFINATELY STARTED AND FINISHED BETTER, THA OTHER WOZ MORE CONSISTANT THROUGH THA MIDDLE PART........ THIS IS A HARD CHOICE I ALMOST DONT WANNA VOTE LMAO, AIIGHT IM LEANIN ONE WAY VERY VERY SLIGHTLY, BUT I THINK YOU BOTH DESERVE TO WIN THIS SHIT...... INSANE SHIT FROM BOTH......FAIR IS DROPPED!

rai dope vearse

damn, this is mental ... Rai's punches were hittting back to back imo, and tha execution was really good too, only like 2 punches in his verse fell flat imo ... Erron carried a dope scheme throughout tha verse and had some solid shit in there, but imo tha scheme limited his creativity and some lines were not hitting for me ... gotta give it to consistency here, dope shit on both sides ... fairs in, good luck to both

Crazy fucking battle here no doubt.. Both dudes were fabulous with the wordplay, both also had punches that connected well. I usually dont like multis that extent too long but my winner had some crazy fucking syylables going on

This was a good match. But Rai had me at that st nick line. Error you’re polished and clean. Every concept hit but Rai impact of his setups were bigger. Aggression in ya face build up.

AC's.

Long winded and generally boring. I'll give Black the edge but I'm not exactly impressed.

10-5, 7-3, and 1-2 retarded voting deleted.

I will just state some things because both rappers are extremely good at rapping itself but I think that Erron Black is better at battle rap than Rai is at present. Rai's actual rap was of superior eloquence and rhyme-scheme complexity to Erron's.

I would give Rai 100/100 for rhyme scheme. He understand how to rhyme to the fullest extent and I think actually he sacrificed too much to achieve this clean of a rhyme scheme. If he was a standalone rapper I would rank him slightly above Erron Black purely because I think he'd be able to rhyme efficiently over absolutely any beat (like a Tech N9ne / MGK tier of rhyme scheme or if you're into UK Grime, a Wiley/Devlin tier of rhyme-scheme (Wiley is better at rhyming than devlin but second place to Dev IMO but that's not relevant here).

So, this rap comes down to more than rhyme scheme. I'd say Erron Black scored an 8.7/10 which rounds up to 9/10 for the rhyme scheme. He doesn't rhyme well enough in between the capslock parts but he better fits in a series of syllables between them that if read outloud fast flow smoother without any pausing or thinking than Rai's does so when it comes to flow, Erron isn't seamless but is close to it I'd say an 8.4/10 while Rai is more at 7.7/10 the margin is small but not too small to notice.

I will top here and give some samples of why Rai has a better rhyme scheme but Erron a better flow.

Rhyme scheme master of Rai:

" wouldn't be "Stiff Competition" if you COME WITH A MASSIVE BONER! so before you say it's NOTHING TO BASH THE JOKER Then we'll see "Erron Black: X-Rai", but It's only coz he "can't STOMACH" THE FACT IT'S OVER!!"

Okay so here, something you may not notice as you need to read it effectively to make it properly highlight the 100/100 rhyme scheme is that there are many more rhymes than meet the eye for a normal reader of this rap.

1) 'Nothing' is going to be rhyming subtly with 'stomach'

2) 'come WITH-A (tiny pause) Ma-ssive bo-ner' is going to flawlessly syllable slide over 'Na[pause]THING-Te (tiny pause) Baa-shthe Jo-ker' and I mean he does this again and again throughout. He also keeps the rhymes within lines matching often enough for excellent quasi-seamless flow (meaning flucuating speeds but taking that into account seamless which means it's not really seamless) like here:

"another LOSS-SETTING ON HIS PAGE it'll be a "Hart Breaker w/a Sad Ending" call it TOM-PETTY IN HIS GRAVE! Tryna give Rai the L, but I'm NOT-LETTING" 

OTHer LOSS setting-[onhis][pageit] 

CALLit TOM petty-[inhis][gravetry]

I know that 'try' and 'it' don't rhyme but the speed would definitely make that syllable the least heard during the spitting.

Then we have Erron's incredible inherent flow: "Class w/ Master Splinter ya CHOSE TO KICK IT W/ A" but then the flow is not quite seamless and then it soon picks up again seamlessly "Support ya Soldiers but that CHAUVINISM IS A HEINOUS ACT cause all it proves is this Yellow Belly lacks" and takes a break again. It's very good flow don't get me wrong but it's not 100/100 because it's kind of 'phasing' in a way that truly execute perfect flow would not. Very few rappers have the kind of flow I am speaking of. Chris Webby, Vinnie Paz and Riss (in some songs not all with Russ) have it in their songs for a much larger portion before breaking the 'perfect flow'. If you are curious what perfect/seamless flow sounds like I can giv eyou some songs. It's not the same thing as 100/100 rhyme scheme at all, it's about consistently spreading out syllables so your tongue lips and breathing all can work in sync. K.A.A.N. cheats by having delivery-heavy flow and has a secret breathing method that requires you to squeak words as you spit them so his flawless flow is very little about his writing skill and entirely about his voice mastery.

I think Rai would enjoy an underground rapper named Anilyst a lot. Anilyst takes rhyme scheme just as serious as Rai does.

Alright. So as for the actual metaphors, carrying them over and relating them to the real person... This is where I feel Erron dominates Rai. Rai does fantastic but Erron does phenomenal.

What Rai does wrong is he worries far too much about impressing us with his technical rap skills. He even has to explain some things in the comments that to like ~82% of readers is not going to make sense otherwise. This did not impact me ranking him up or down but the point is that Erron's references were all to-date east-to-decipher just like his flow was. For me to rank Erron 10/10 I would have wanted him to link metaphors more. Maybe bring up later on a metaphor form before and explode the analogy in a super creative way. A rapper who does this extremely well is Futuristic, take a listen at some point. He brings metaphors from the first 5 lines into the last 7 at times in long raps.

Some samples I would highly recommend Erron take a listen to (I know his lyrics are not the highest quality, it's simple but his metaphorical emphasis is paralleled only by madchild which I'll link in the third link) I know Erron knows Madchild and both Futuristic and Madchild would undoubtedly be in my top 25-or-so rappers of all time list but the point is that I don't know if he analyses the metaphors specifically or madchild's puns because the puns come in between very skilled metaphor-stacking on his part but futuristic simply hits with nonstop metaphor grappling even though he rarely extends more than 2 lines with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py-6nu_douk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5nkZ1OtyAQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u03WhZsGoI4

Alright so, Rai sacrifices metaphorical complexity for rhyme scheme excellence and this is a wrong trade-off to do in battle rap but a correct trade-off to do for a melodic-heavy rap and is an iffy tradeoff to do in a skill-heavy rap for 'real fans' because both rhyme scheme and metaphorical complexity are inferior to the actual flow and lyrics meaning in 'real fan' raps.

This is a battle rap and Rai spat excellently I give his total an 84%. Erron was 91%.

Observe what Erron does here:

"You're a forklift operator, so instead of getting cheddar? You're BROKE AND THEN YA FIX YA PLATE WITH SCRAPS, those Links Are All Ya See In Your Future like MOST DEPICTED VISIONS SLAVES WOULD HAVE! You're on the low-end of the totem pole, ya WON'T CONVINCE THE BIGS YOU'D MAKE 'EM CASH only time ya "presidential near the brass" is if ya CLOSE TO CLINTON WHEN HE PLAYS THE SAX!!"

While not at all amazingly hard to pull off he strings a metaphor along that many words... Rai does not.

Another example of flow combined with metaphoricla stringing: "Your gang won't be able to save you when I GO TO LIFT AND QUICKLY THE SPRAY THE MAGS since ya squad's only "carrying nines" because I KNOW YOUR CLIQUE IS IN TO BASIC MATH!! You want a shot at redemption? Well it's ONLY GIVEN IF YOU PRAYED FOR THAT, I'm on a level so high above you that when you got CLOSE TO THIS? YOUR FRICKIN' BRAIN COLLAPSED!" This is 10/10 flow dont get me wrong but this wasn't the quality of flow all rap and the metaphor stringing was kind of... Well I mean you kind of went a tiny bit sidetracked each stack/addition of it.

I will just say that Rai is a brilliant rapper. To have a line like this is very good but he didn't flow as smooth and didn't hit HARD with punchlines as cutthroat as Erron did and that's just my outlook.

Rai's highlights (to even out who I am showing off here):

" it'll be a "Hart Breaker w/a Sad Ending" call it TOM-PETTY IN HIS GRAVE! Tryna give Rai the L, but I'm NOT-LETTING HIM TODAY. So when this "Cunt Take It Against His Will"?, its coz he's "ALREADY GETTING RAPED!!"

" that proves you aint ''Got Nothing Over C's", except your "CAMO SUIT AND RIFFLE!!" (Over Seas) Btw, you were supposed to leave the site if you didn't DOOM THE BROTHER, RIGHT? So it's funny the scheme was ''Chicken Cross The Road", Coz he sent you "TO THE OTHERSIDE!!" You out dated fuck!"

Notice, he rhymes much more consistently if you spit what he writes well but what he's writing kind of throws in many metaphors to make it move alone while Erron stacks them and I feel makes it easier to 'read out the flow' witout trying.

Excellent by both.

AMAZING BATTLE - had to go back and re-read bars just to make sure I was on point... 1st guy killed me with some bars but I had to follow close because sometime when we are getting personal transitions elongate it was mad NICE!!! 2nd guy had some bars THAT IDK MAN they were PRO - when you got close brain collapsed , locusts plague the mass is how you burden his ppl LMFAO .... EXCELLENT BATTLE GOOD JOB BOTH GOT TALENT.  best Ive read in a long ass min!!!!

dope

I have my winner based off of punch count. Lock, I felt you could've gotten to your punches quicker. There was too much reading in between the beginning of a bar to the end of it that caused me to lose interest in what you were saying. I fucked with the motion sickness mixed w/ Satan's wrath shit tho that was smooth af. Rai I fucked heavy with the whole snow/Christmas/Mrs Clause concept and it ties very nicely to the personal. Only major complaint I had with your verse was the part of "ACTING AS MY-ENEMY... CAT THAT YOU PRETEND TO BE".. It threw me off big time due to the sounds of MY and PRE- being too overwhelming to match or even destress. All in all good battle. G'luck to the winner.

Alright so my won goes to rai for several reasons 1.his lines went hard directly to his opponent using personals,wordplay,punchlines,and even used his name towards him with that x Ray line,2.his verse was a bit more complex than his opponent and what I mean is he went different routes and rhyme schemes with it while erron only stook with one and that made it kinda boring,3.his final line and opener both were more better than erron and those are the most important to land down as hard as possible 

Loser was also great but again his lines couldve been more harder hitting if he did what his opponent did and go different routes to make his verse sound more better than it already is.

Not the best at explaining my thoughts so don't expect feedback lmao

Just vote... Nice battle

entertaining battle from both. i am leaning slightly this way because the multi play was stronger - didn't feel forced and every line ended up with nice/clever jab. coud go either way though.