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Originally Posted by Erupt

Man my baby mama is mexican, shits retarded, her shit expires 2019, she's trying to convince me to marry her and shit so she can stay ......... ughhhhhhhhhhhh

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Clearly im against it.. for obvious reasons.

Damn that's pretty deep fam! I hope everything works out for the best.

Originally Posted by Babylon

the dudes got a weird complex with immigrants, but we'll see if he was right if this goes through & crime statistics change at all / if there are any minor economical shifts. On a case to case basis though I can see this being insane to a lot of people.

This particular immigration policy will not affect crime statistics whatsoever because DACA recipients are specifically those with no criminal records. As far as undocumented immigrants who do commit crimes, it has been the practice to deport them once they commit a felony since long before Trump got into office. There may be economic shifts, but it won't be for the betterment of the country because DACA recipients are gainfully employed, so a lot of companies will lose workers, most of them in skilled or educated positions. The CEO's of Facebook, Google, and other major companies have came out and spoke against this for partly this reason.

Originally Posted by Kuhn

I don't really see how people can have a massive issue when the word "illegal" is right in the name. I'm not sure where my opinion on strict borders is right now. It's hard to really keep a stance when cunts keep blowing everything up. But really, there is a route to gaining access to America. If people wish to go against those rules and enter illegally, then they should be subject to whatever the punishment is/was.

Erupt, can't she simply renew her visa in the next 2 years?

The DACA recipients are people who were brought to the US as kids, maybe at age 2 or age 5, but certainly under age 16. A two-year-old can't purchase a plane ticket, let alone consciously decide to enter another country illegally on their own. So their being there illegally is through no fault of their own. How a government responds to that has to be a lot more sensitive than using "whatever the punishment is" because you're talking about uprooting and displacing people...possibly ruining their lives. Law has to consider the consequences of its own execution.

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Originally Posted by Erupt

Man my baby mama is mexican, shits retarded, her shit expires 2019, she's trying to convince me to marry her and shit so she can stay ......... ughhhhhhhhhhhh

---------- Post added at 01:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:10 PM ----------

Clearly im against it.. for obvious reasons.

Damn that's pretty deep fam! I hope everything works out for the best.

Originally Posted by Babylon

the dudes got a weird complex with immigrants, but we'll see if he was right if this goes through & crime statistics change at all / if there are any minor economical shifts. On a case to case basis though I can see this being insane to a lot of people.

This particular immigration policy will not affect crime statistics whatsoever because DACA recipients are specifically those with no criminal records. As far as undocumented immigrants who do commit crimes, it has been the practice to deport them once they commit a felony since long before Trump got into office. There may be economic shifts, but it won't be for the betterment of the country because DACA recipients are gainfully employed, so a lot of companies will lose workers, most of them in skilled or educated positions. The CEO's of Facebook, Google, and other major companies have came out and spoke against this for partly this reason.

Originally Posted by Kuhn

I don't really see how people can have a massive issue when the word "illegal" is right in the name. I'm not sure where my opinion on strict borders is right now. It's hard to really keep a stance when cunts keep blowing everything up. But really, there is a route to gaining access to America. If people wish to go against those rules and enter illegally, then they should be subject to whatever the punishment is/was.

Erupt, can't she simply renew her visa in the next 2 years?

The DACA recipients are people who were brought to the US as kids, maybe at age 2 or age 5, but certainly under age 16. A two-year-old can't purchase a plane ticket, let alone consciously decide to enter another country illegally on their own. So their being there illegally is through no fault of their own. How a government responds to that has to be a lot more sensitive than using "whatever the punishment is" because you're talking about uprooting and displacing people...possibly ruining their lives. Law has to consider the consequences of its own execution.