Originally Posted by NOBLE
I think you might have already been racist prior to this.
You think incorrectly. Disagreeing with black people doesnt make me racist.
I can literally point to TONS of studies that show Black men are multiple times more likely to be stopped and prosecuted for the same crimes, multiple times more likely to receive heavier penalties for the same crimes, multiple times more likely to be falsely accused and convicted only to be exculpated years later. I can point to studies done on police department training simulations where they are meant to make split second decisions like in a hostage situation and they're more likely to shoot a Black character who is unarmed and miss a White suspect who is actually carrying a weapon. Unless you've done similarly rigorous studies to dispute these findings, you don't have a leg to stand on in calling them complete bullshit.
"Projects" and "Ghettos" are the worst areas with the most crime right? What is the highest % of race there? Black people. So you're right, more black people get stopped. By your logic it's like me claiming the government is more racist towards Scottish people in Scotland because more Scottish people get stopped than anything else.
Prove anything else with links to actually reputable sources. There is a zero percent chance that people are trained to shoot unarmed black people than armed white people. And if they are, maybe that's because races connect to each other. Who's to say black cops don't shoot unarmed white people in those scenarios?
Profiling is not always based on how you're dressed and Black men have been profiled while wearing business suits or driving cars that were considered too expensive. And believe it or not, Obama DOES literally look like a criminal to many people. That's part of the reason why he's the worst President ever who couldn't possibly have attained the Oval Office legitimately and was probably not even born in the U.S. But that's beside the point. "Profiling, not racial-profiling", as you call it, happens to people of certain color regardless of how they're dressed a lot more than it happens to non-colored people and that can be statistically proven.
Statistically, you've proved zero of your statistics and just say the word statistically to back up your point. Scientifically, I'm right and you're wrong.
George Bush is considered the worst president in America of all time. Is America racist towards white people?
The old 'if they got nothing to hide, they shouldn't mind being searched' argument. Getting stopped repeatedly because of your appearance is dehumanizing. Every human being should have a right to appear how they want to appear and dress how they want to dress without being demonized for it. There are many people who wear hoodies and baggy jeans as a style, not because they are criminal or have criminal intent. Those people have a right to dress how they want to dress without being stopped by the police every fucking time. If you want to feel as a White Scottish kid, that you understand why the police stop you when you're wearing hoodies and tracks, that's on you. Just know that your experience isn't close to comparable to brown skinned kids who come from racial groups that have been discriminated against and marginalized in more ways than the police stop for pretty much the last half millenia.
Fuck off man you've got no fucking clue what I might have faced before. Just cause some cunts black doesnt mean he's automatically been through more than anyone ever. Maybe people shouldnt get stopped cause they're from a certain place or their clothes are a certain way, but it's just the way it is. Cops are more likely to pull over a Lancer than a Volvo. maybe that's "discriminatory" to Mitzubishi owners, but is it really the outlandish or uncomprehandable? So you think elderly ladies should get random drug searches more than teenagers dressed in hoodies for the purpose of equality?
To be honest, it's the anti-protesters who are acting more like it's about race than the protesters. Do you realize that a large portion of the protesters and rioters are White? A lot of them are Anarchists, anti-police state demonstrators and people affiliated with the hacker group Anonymous, and I can post SEVERAL images and video footage from the protests to demonstrate that. Do you realize that Darren Wilson, as well as George Zimmerman are practically millionaires now? Darren Wilson received about $500,000 from the KKK and average White people who, like you, are tired of Black people "making everything about race" and think he is only being persecuted because he is a White cop doing his job and that sent thousands of dollars for his legal defense fund. He received another half a million from ABC to do an interview after the no-indictment announcement. People react to news that they have heard and people mostly focus on news concerning their community. I had frankly never heard about the White kid who underwent a similar circumstance a week after Mike Brown, and you probably shouldn't assume that the protesters had heard of it and are just choosing not to react to it either.
Have you seen A Time to Kill? You know then the black rights movement pay Samuel Jackson's character's legal fees, did you find that to be disgusting and racist? Is that different than white people paying the legal fees of a white person? I 100% disagree with it and those white people are more scum than the people defending, but to defend an offender without facts is much worse than to defend a victim without facts.
Why didn't anyone hear about this white kid? Because it's 2014, who cares about a dead white person?
And if you guys think a headlock is police brutality, you can fuck off.
A chokehold that leads to someone dying while he's saying "I can't breathe" isn't police brutality?
On cops last week a dude shouted "you're hurting me" so the cop released the cuffs a bit. The dude then headbutted him and ran off.
That scary ass mentality is exactly what we don't need in cops. I think þe best solution would be if they made it a point to hire only cops or live or grew up in the neighborhood they are to patrol. We don't need any cops from out of town who has a skewed view of our hood like we're all gun toting gangsters and is ready to shoot us if we make any movements that isn't differential.
If no one had guns it would be a hell of a lot better.
What's disgusting is your absolute cluelessness. You seem to believe all these Black people are delusional and there is no such thing as racism. They just like to whine and make noise about cases like this for no reason, not because it's pertinent to their everyday experiences or anything like that. You're such a know-it-all that you would presume to know and diagnose the experiences of millions of people more than they know their own experience. I almost can't think of anything more disgustingly ignorant tbh.
Yet you say I can't possibly comprehend their "struggle", yet you know nothing about me or what I may have faced, how are you any different? You are fully ignorant to anything I may have faced or experienced, why, because you disagree with me and a white person can't possible face the things a black person has. Racism is an excuse in 2014. People who overcome it never bitch and complain about race. Whenever you quote Obama being black and saying black people can achieve success against all odds, black people now reply "He's half white" lmao.
Martin Luther King wanted black people to overcome oppression and be whatever they want to be. Everyone in this world has the ability to achieve their dreams. Black, white, asian, who cares. It's all the same, and we can all be whatever we want to be.
Black people in 2014 (the ones in these situations, not all black people of course) are more concerned with continuing to "fight oppression" than achieve their dreams, completely against what MLK fought for.
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