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Originally Posted by Dave

I'm AGAINST depression. Depression is a state of quitting. Allowing yourself to wallow. I can absolutely guarantee you that I will never be depressed in my entire life. I literally don't understand it though so I try to avoid judgement.

But that aside, I don't think you understand what post-natal depression is. A lot of the time it's a detachment from your child, not the physical act of pregnancy. If someone straight up doesn't want their child, put it up for adoption, thats what my point is. The physical effects are VERY rarely long lasting.

Now I don't think you understand depression either. Seeing as depression can be a mood disorder (in the form of major depressive disorder, manic depression etc.) and has been clinically proven and published within the DSM IV as a mental disorder with biological statistics (low production of serotonin and dopamine, depression of the central nervous system, hormone dysfunction).

You're doing nothing but judge without any real weight behind your overall rebuke. You just simply believe that pregnancy can't physically affect a woman for the rest of her life (which in a lot of cases occurs) and that depression is nothing more than a transient mood-swing? Shit man, you need to read more.

Originally Posted by Dave

So a father has absolutely no right in the birth of his child? I couldn't be more against that. The fact that 10 years ago judges ruled in custody cases of the mothers over the father based on some absolutely mythological idea that the word maternal overpowers paternal is utterly disgusting to me.

And I never said a father has no right to the birth of a child. I said that the individuals involved in the pregnancy "situation" usually discuss and rationalise, but I still don't think a male has the right to tell a woman to either go through with the childbirth or have the abortion. That's called shirking the physical rights of a human being.

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Originally Posted by Dave

I'm AGAINST depression. Depression is a state of quitting. Allowing yourself to wallow. I can absolutely guarantee you that I will never be depressed in my entire life. I literally don't understand it though so I try to avoid judgement.

But that aside, I don't think you understand what post-natal depression is. A lot of the time it's a detachment from your child, not the physical act of pregnancy. If someone straight up doesn't want their child, put it up for adoption, thats what my point is. The physical effects are VERY rarely long lasting.

Now I don't think you understand depression either. Seeing as depression can be a mood disorder (in the form of major depressive disorder, manic depression etc.) and has been clinically proven and published within the DSM IV as a mental disorder with biological statistics (low production of serotonin and dopamine, depression of the central nervous system, hormone dysfunction).

You're doing nothing but judge without any real weight behind your overall rebuke. You just simply believe that pregnancy can't physically affect a woman for the rest of her life (which in a lot of cases occurs) and that depression is nothing more than a transient mood-swing? Shit man, you need to read more.

Originally Posted by Dave

So a father has absolutely no right in the birth of his child? I couldn't be more against that. The fact that 10 years ago judges ruled in custody cases of the mothers over the father based on some absolutely mythological idea that the word maternal overpowers paternal is utterly disgusting to me.

And I never said a father has no right to the birth of a child. I said that the individuals involved in the pregnancy "situation" usually discuss and rationalise, but I still don't think a male has the right to tell a woman to either go through with the childbirth or have the abortion. That's called shirking the physical rights of a human being.