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its not just someone, or a random dude, its an advocate of evolution seeing flaws in his theory
Seriously? Me saying "someone" or "random dude" is blatant hyperbole, care to ACTUALLY respond now, instead of cherry picking random things out of my argument and avoiding any real substance? The fact is what that person said means literally nothing. If Richard Dawkins himself went on TV tomorrow and starting going on and on about how evolution is bullshit it would mean literally nothing towards the case of Evolution. The person you cited stated his opinion on what the eye "seemed" or "appeared" to be, no fact at all was stated in what he said. Saying that something seems or appears like something else doesn't point out a flaw in anything, now if he had observable proof of what he said that would be groundbreaking. But he doesn't, does he?

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@Crysis you check video out I posted?
Just did, here's what I think about it:

The alien theory is very interesting, but not much factual evidence is supported for it. Instead people piece together things like Egyptians figures and attribute them to aliens when the fact is, we've been creating mythological creatures since the dawn of the imagination. Take movies and scyfy books for example. If you know more about the theory, I'd love to hear more. I'm not very knowledgeable on it tbh.


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There are though. People are getting taller, stronger, faster. Weather or not it is because were adapting and evolving I don't know, but we are changing.
You guys are drastically overestimating evolution, it took billions of years of microevolutionary genetic changes to get us where we are today. To expect any macroevolutionary changes in just the hundreds of years we've been homo-Sapiens is 100% assinine. It took billions of years for Austrolopithicus to evolve into Arlopithicus, then it took the lengthy amount of time to get us to the homo-sapiens taxonomy. Microevolution is even faster than macroevolution (Things like getting taller as a species, or getting faster) and that is happening all around us. Go google some statistics people, microevolution is evident all around us. Any real macroevolutionary change has yet to surface, but the fact that Wolves evolved into common dogs is a blatant example of macroevolutionary changes to the point that two separate species were created. Hell, a tadpole grows legs and arms for gods sakes. For you guys to state that we would have observed something so far is like saying "My 2 month old baby hasn't grown to a functional human in 8 months, why can't he drive a car yet?"
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Originally Posted by Row View Post
its not just someone, or a random dude, its an advocate of evolution seeing flaws in his theory
Seriously? Me saying "someone" or "random dude" is blatant hyperbole, care to ACTUALLY respond now, instead of cherry picking random things out of my argument and avoiding any real substance? The fact is what that person said means literally nothing. If Richard Dawkins himself went on TV tomorrow and starting going on and on about how evolution is bullshit it would mean literally nothing towards the case of Evolution. The person you cited stated his opinion on what the eye "seemed" or "appeared" to be, no fact at all was stated in what he said. Saying that something seems or appears like something else doesn't point out a flaw in anything, now if he had observable proof of what he said that would be groundbreaking. But he doesn't, does he?

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Originally Posted by SuperGuy View Post
@Crysis you check video out I posted?
Just did, here's what I think about it:

The alien theory is very interesting, but not much factual evidence is supported for it. Instead people piece together things like Egyptians figures and attribute them to aliens when the fact is, we've been creating mythological creatures since the dawn of the imagination. Take movies and scyfy books for example. If you know more about the theory, I'd love to hear more. I'm not very knowledgeable on it tbh.


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Originally Posted by Barfight View Post
There are though. People are getting taller, stronger, faster. Weather or not it is because were adapting and evolving I don't know, but we are changing.
You guys are drastically overestimating evolution, it took billions of years of microevolutionary genetic changes to get us where we are today. To expect any macroevolutionary changes in just the hundreds of years we've been homo-Sapiens is 100% assinine. It took billions of years for Austrolopithicus to evolve into Arlopithicus, then it took the lengthy amount of time to get us to the homo-sapiens taxonomy. Microevolution is even faster than macroevolution (Things like getting taller as a species, or getting faster) and that is happening all around us. Go google some statistics people, microevolution is evident all around us. Any real macroevolutionary change has yet to surface, but the fact that Wolves evolved into common dogs is a blatant example of macroevolutionary changes to the point that two separate species were created. Hell, a tadpole grows legs and arms for gods sakes. For you guys to state that we would have observed something so far is like saying "My 2 month old baby hasn't grown to a functional human in 8 months, why can't he drive a car yet?"
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