Why this Boston Bombing doesn't sit right

[Godbody]

Word @Duh Great Whyte

Let's just think about it

Sandy Hook shooting: "drills" being conducted nearby prior to the shooting that dealt with how first responders would deal with kids in crisis

London train bombings: "drills" being conducted that same morning dealing with bombings in the vicinity of the trains

9/11: "drills" conducted prior to the attacks dealing with a large scale attack and how first responders would act. "drills" conducted many years before these attacks on dealing with bombs being inside of the towers.... & Post 9/11 a lot of people were saying there was no way those towers would go down without explosives

& now these "drills"

Its kind of a "lmao, how stupid do you think we are?" slap in the face. But the sad part of it all is that there really are people so ignorant they refuse to believe anything can be orchestrated in Disney-land America..

& that's not to say the government was behind this. I'm saying let's not ignore obvious coincidences

[Godbody]

Word @Duh Great Whyte

Let's just think about it

Sandy Hook shooting: "drills" being conducted nearby prior to the shooting that dealt with how first responders would deal with kids in crisis

London train bombings: "drills" being conducted that same morning dealing with bombings in the vicinity of the trains

9/11: "drills" conducted prior to the attacks dealing with a large scale attack and how first responders would act. "drills" conducted many years before these attacks on dealing with bombs being inside of the towers.... & Post 9/11 a lot of people were saying there was no way those towers would go down without explosives

& now these "drills"

Its kind of a "lmao, how stupid do you think we are?" slap in the face. But the sad part of it all is that there really are people so ignorant they refuse to believe anything can be orchestrated in Disney-land America..

& that's not to say the government was behind this. I'm saying let's not ignore obvious coincidences

[Duh Great Whyte]

nah that's what i'm sayin dogs like shits fuckin crazy, yet it fuels the people in ways like lookin at the a certain group of people as the reason why these things are happening and that shit in itself is sad, but it's all propaganda, that's why the news stations report the news the way they do, to get us to believe what they wants us too

[Duh Great Whyte]

nah that's what i'm sayin dogs like shits fuckin crazy, yet it fuels the people in ways like lookin at the a certain group of people as the reason why these things are happening and that shit in itself is sad, but it's all propaganda, that's why the news stations report the news the way they do, to get us to believe what they wants us too

[Phil Banks]

@Duh Great Whyte ya i just saw that movie myself....I think what you gotta realize bout Islam is that they consider all ppl of the faith as brothers... so really when you seeing your brothers not getting trials being tortured an the world refuses to listen when you speak about injustice what other option do you have but to start blowing shit the fuck up?

[Phil Banks]

@Duh Great Whyte ya i just saw that movie myself....I think what you gotta realize bout Islam is that they consider all ppl of the faith as brothers... so really when you seeing your brothers not getting trials being tortured an the world refuses to listen when you speak about injustice what other option do you have but to start blowing shit the fuck up?

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by pULSe

But the sad part of it all is that there really are people so ignorant they refuse to believe anything can be orchestrated in Disney-land America..

While on the other side of the coin you have conspiracist's who will find out that there are Bomb sniffer dogs at a big International event in a climate where terrorist attacks are all too common, only to claim it's a really outlandish idea for them to be there to ensure the safety not only of the american citizens spectating, but also the safety of the representatives of these nations taking part. I agree about the drills being sketchy. As I already pointed out yesterday in the other thread. But you're reaching with the Dogs.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by pULSe

But the sad part of it all is that there really are people so ignorant they refuse to believe anything can be orchestrated in Disney-land America..

While on the other side of the coin you have conspiracist's who will find out that there are Bomb sniffer dogs at a big International event in a climate where terrorist attacks are all too common, only to claim it's a really outlandish idea for them to be there to ensure the safety not only of the american citizens spectating, but also the safety of the representatives of these nations taking part. I agree about the drills being sketchy. As I already pointed out yesterday in the other thread. But you're reaching with the Dogs.

[Godbody]

I'm reaching with the dogs? LOL, you're reaching with the dogs.

"Gee, this event is dedicated to people affected by a MASS SHOOTING. Fuck sending out heavily armed & armored officers, what we need are bomb sniffing dogs!"

Give me a fucking break. You don't show up to a knife fight with your bare hands, but you don't show up with an RPG either. Feel me B

[Godbody]

I'm reaching with the dogs? LOL, you're reaching with the dogs.

"Gee, this event is dedicated to people affected by a MASS SHOOTING. Fuck sending out heavily armed & armored officers, what we need are bomb sniffing dogs!"

Give me a fucking break. You don't show up to a knife fight with your bare hands, but you don't show up with an RPG either. Feel me B

[J u s T C]

Why does your brain automatically rule out any other means of attack just because Sandy Hook was shooting related? lol. If anything you would want to switch up tact as to not be predictable. Thats if this even has anything to do with the Sandy Hook victims in the first place. (This is a globally known event with people from around the globe taking part) which neither of us can confirm or deny. thats pure speculation and we both know it.

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For all you or I know, bomb sniffer dogs could have been present at last years Boston Marathon and every 1 since 9/11. You're only now taking stock of it because an actual bombing attack took place. If you can show me evidence that bomb security has never been high in the previous marathons then I'll eat my words and tell you "you're right"

[J u s T C]

Why does your brain automatically rule out any other means of attack just because Sandy Hook was shooting related? lol. If anything you would want to switch up tact as to not be predictable. Thats if this even has anything to do with the Sandy Hook victims in the first place. (This is a globally known event with people from around the globe taking part) which neither of us can confirm or deny. thats pure speculation and we both know it.

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For all you or I know, bomb sniffer dogs could have been present at last years Boston Marathon and every 1 since 9/11. You're only now taking stock of it because an actual bombing attack took place. If you can show me evidence that bomb security has never been high in the previous marathons then I'll eat my words and tell you "you're right"

[Godbody]

It shouldn't rule out any other means of attack. I'm saying what a coincidence that drills are being carried out relating to bombs when Sandy Hook is unrelated to bombs and if anything you'd expect a copycat shooter before you expect a bomb.

I'm not saying the people shouldn't be under-protected because a shooting rules out any other means of attack so lets focus solely on shooting. I'm just saying this drill, along with many other drills, have way too much in common & these drills magically preceed events that actually hapen.

[Godbody]

It shouldn't rule out any other means of attack. I'm saying what a coincidence that drills are being carried out relating to bombs when Sandy Hook is unrelated to bombs and if anything you'd expect a copycat shooter before you expect a bomb.

I'm not saying the people shouldn't be under-protected because a shooting rules out any other means of attack so lets focus solely on shooting. I'm just saying this drill, along with many other drills, have way too much in common & these drills magically preceed events that actually hapen.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by pULSe

It shouldn't rule out any other means of attack. I'm saying what a coincidence that drills are being carried out relating to bombs when Sandy Hook is unrelated to bombs and if anything you'd expect a copycat shooter before you expect a bomb.

I'm not saying the people shouldn't be under-protected because a shooting rules out any other means of attack so lets focus solely on shooting. I'm just saying this drill, along with many other drills, have way too much in common & these drills magically preceed events that actually hapen.

Yeah I agree the drills are really odd and have popped up far too conveniently within the vicinity and time frame of these events. You'd have to be pretty naive to not atleast raise an eyebrow at these findings.

They could be faked documents, I don't know, you can never be too sure, but if these drills taking place around these incidents are 100% fact. then it is more than a little fishy.

[J u s T C]

Originally Posted by pULSe

It shouldn't rule out any other means of attack. I'm saying what a coincidence that drills are being carried out relating to bombs when Sandy Hook is unrelated to bombs and if anything you'd expect a copycat shooter before you expect a bomb.

I'm not saying the people shouldn't be under-protected because a shooting rules out any other means of attack so lets focus solely on shooting. I'm just saying this drill, along with many other drills, have way too much in common & these drills magically preceed events that actually hapen.

Yeah I agree the drills are really odd and have popped up far too conveniently within the vicinity and time frame of these events. You'd have to be pretty naive to not atleast raise an eyebrow at these findings.

They could be faked documents, I don't know, you can never be too sure, but if these drills taking place around these incidents are 100% fact. then it is more than a little fishy.

[Godbody]

@Just C then start saying I'm right because the amount of security seen at this marathon was unprecedented vs other marathons as said by the dude in the video I posted in the first post of this thread.

[Godbody]

@Just C then start saying I'm right because the amount of security seen at this marathon was unprecedented vs other marathons as said by the dude in the video I posted in the first post of this thread.

[J u s T C]

April 18, 2011

The Boston Marathon: In preparedness, the old is new again
Filed under: General Homeland Security,Preparedness and Response — by Arnold Bogis on April 18, 2011


Find below a “Power & Policy” blog post of mine outlining similarities between what PPD-8 calls for and the actions of Boston officials in preparing for and running the Boston Marathon as a “planned disaster.” Being Patriot’s Day, on which the Marathon is always run, I could not resist the comparison.

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This month the Obama Administration released Presidential Policy Directive (PPD) 8 on National Preparedness. While arguments can be made both in favor and against this seeming reboot of the national effort to increase preparedness for natural disasters and terrorist attacks, what particularly puzzles me is the lack of attention, given existing homeland security models that include vigorous cooperation among jurisdictions and participation of non-traditional homeland security actors. These efforts can be models for the rest of the nation and often have been ongoing long before PPD-8 called for “facilitating an integrated, all-of-Nation, capabilities-based approach to preparedness.”

For example today, in addition to being Tax Day, is Patriot’s Day in Massachusetts and the day on which the Boston Marathon is run. Why is this relevant to homeland security? As I wrote in an op-ed in the Boston Globe a few years ago:

Today thousands of runners and hundreds of thousands of spectators are unwittingly taking part in a planned disaster. Yet, they are not just safe from harm (except for the variety brought on by running 26.2 miles), they also are participants in an event that will make the citizens of Greater Boston safer in case of a natural catastrophe or terrorist attack.

What is important to note is the long standing, ongoing work towards what PPD-8 identifies as required in that the “national preparedness system shall be designed to help guide the domestic efforts of all levels of government, the private and nonprofit sectors, and the public to build and sustain the capabilities outlined in the national preparedness goal. The national preparedness system shall include guidance for planning, organization, equipment, training, and exercises to build and maintain domestic capabilities.”

Although the principal goal during such events remains the safety of everyone involved, organizers have realized that these annual gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people present the perfect opportunity to evaluate new technologies, exercise disaster plans, and build vital relationships between public safety agencies and the private sector.

Treating these large, annual events as opportunities to test the disaster response system accomplishes exactly that. Personnel from public safety and health departments meet regularly during the year to plan these events. New officials will quickly meet their counterparts in other agencies. As described in a recent Globe story about how close the 2007 race came to being cancelled due to weather, a unified command is established where all the relevant organizations can monitor the event and react together if something goes wrong.

This is not something that concerns only the City of Boston or events that can be dealt with by local authorities:

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It seems these drills have been going on for some years now in Boston on Patriots day. Also since this has been the case Having bomb dogs in the area is not as un common as you think it is.

[J u s T C]

April 18, 2011

The Boston Marathon: In preparedness, the old is new again
Filed under: General Homeland Security,Preparedness and Response — by Arnold Bogis on April 18, 2011


Find below a “Power & Policy” blog post of mine outlining similarities between what PPD-8 calls for and the actions of Boston officials in preparing for and running the Boston Marathon as a “planned disaster.” Being Patriot’s Day, on which the Marathon is always run, I could not resist the comparison.

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This month the Obama Administration released Presidential Policy Directive (PPD) 8 on National Preparedness. While arguments can be made both in favor and against this seeming reboot of the national effort to increase preparedness for natural disasters and terrorist attacks, what particularly puzzles me is the lack of attention, given existing homeland security models that include vigorous cooperation among jurisdictions and participation of non-traditional homeland security actors. These efforts can be models for the rest of the nation and often have been ongoing long before PPD-8 called for “facilitating an integrated, all-of-Nation, capabilities-based approach to preparedness.”

For example today, in addition to being Tax Day, is Patriot’s Day in Massachusetts and the day on which the Boston Marathon is run. Why is this relevant to homeland security? As I wrote in an op-ed in the Boston Globe a few years ago:

Today thousands of runners and hundreds of thousands of spectators are unwittingly taking part in a planned disaster. Yet, they are not just safe from harm (except for the variety brought on by running 26.2 miles), they also are participants in an event that will make the citizens of Greater Boston safer in case of a natural catastrophe or terrorist attack.

What is important to note is the long standing, ongoing work towards what PPD-8 identifies as required in that the “national preparedness system shall be designed to help guide the domestic efforts of all levels of government, the private and nonprofit sectors, and the public to build and sustain the capabilities outlined in the national preparedness goal. The national preparedness system shall include guidance for planning, organization, equipment, training, and exercises to build and maintain domestic capabilities.”

Although the principal goal during such events remains the safety of everyone involved, organizers have realized that these annual gatherings of hundreds of thousands of people present the perfect opportunity to evaluate new technologies, exercise disaster plans, and build vital relationships between public safety agencies and the private sector.

Treating these large, annual events as opportunities to test the disaster response system accomplishes exactly that. Personnel from public safety and health departments meet regularly during the year to plan these events. New officials will quickly meet their counterparts in other agencies. As described in a recent Globe story about how close the 2007 race came to being cancelled due to weather, a unified command is established where all the relevant organizations can monitor the event and react together if something goes wrong.

This is not something that concerns only the City of Boston or events that can be dealt with by local authorities:

---------- Post added at 09:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 AM ----------

It seems these drills have been going on for some years now in Boston on Patriots day. Also since this has been the case Having bomb dogs in the area is not as un common as you think it is.