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Originally Posted by Godbody
Speaking my mind in a public forum is racist and ban worthy? At least I'm contributing content that gets kids like you riled up & into the discussion. That's the point of a public forum. For people to come together and share their opinions. For someone to clear up a question another person has, or to contribute to an argument, or to debunk one.
I'm part German myself, and Steven Spielberg made some bullshit propaganda movie called "The Last Days" where he gets soldiers and Holocaust 'survivors' to tell their story of what happened. & Guess what? A lot of those people were exposed for being liars. You'll see people getting interviewed to audition for the movie & they change their story for the movie for dramatic purposes. There's this one black soldier that said his negro unit liberated a camp and they saw some incredibly crazy shit. The funny shit is..documents & records show that the dude was nowhere near the camp he supposedly liberated
Every war has a premise and not every premise is true. & While not every premise is a lie, that doesn't mean someone won't stretch the truth to accomplish a specific goal. How come there's jews giving their video taped account of what happened, saying they were treated fairly? Saying they were given meals, eating well, playing instruments? a WORK camp =/= DEATH camp. The premise for the war was that Hitler was EXTERMINATING jews. Nah, Hitler didn't do anything differently than the American forefathers by slaving people and killing them when they were too emaciated to continue.
If that's the case we should go back in history to the U.S. indentured servitude and slavery and rename that shit the "Black Holocaust".
U.S. slaves were treated way more unfairly, thrown in boats by hundreds, if not thousands. Shitting and pissing all over each other, dying on top of each other...In the ocean for God knows how many days, weeks, or months. Some were even throw overboard for shits and giggles. Let's not be an overly sensitive bitch about shit you weren't even alive for. All we can do is try to understand what happened and try to find the truth, rather than gravitating to the story that EVERYONE is told about history.
History is written by the winners, never forget this.
& by the way @ NOBLE , the U.S. had no reason to interfere with what Germany was doing. That's European business. The Europeans were more than capable of dealing with Germany. And in one of Hitler's famous speeches, he addresses the fact that all the European nations were willing to resolve the conflict peacefully while the U.S. president at the time (Roosevelt) was hell bent on war. Of course the Holocaust wouldn't have been the only premise, but why does the U.S. act as the World Police? The U.S. loves fixing the problems of the world without fixing its own problems. Its why we're fucked now. |
Dude, I normally won't criticize what you say because on some level I can relate. Most of the things you say sounds like me from 10 years ago (real talk). But with this one, you're way off the mark. There were various reasons why WWII happened, but Hitler killing the Jews was probably the LAST reason any of the European countries went to war with Germany. The Jews had been hated and persecuted in virtually every European country throughout history because they were considered as
other. Germany is widely considered the European "Fatherland" because most northern Europeans trace their ancestry to Germanic or "Teutonic" tribes, including the English and the French. You really think that they went to war to save the Jews?
WWII happened because Adolf Hitler was on some expansionist shit. He had merged Germany with Austria which they told him not to, refused to pay reparations for WWI damages which Germany owed according to the Treaty of Versailles, invaded Czechoslovakia which was in direct contravention of the Munich agreement, and then he invaded Poland after he said he wouldn't and that he wasn't on no expansionist trip. Pretty much, other countries started to feel like Germany was becoming too strong and if they didn't go to war with them, they would be the next one invaded.
The US joined because they were attacked by Japan in Pearl Harbour. Japan was an ally to Germany in a war that was already ongoing so that automatically pitted the US and Germany against each other. Just do the research for yourself (
http://www.historyonthenet.com/WW2/causes.htm).
And yes, neither you nor I were alive when all this occurred, and you're right that history is always told by the victor and there were propaganda from both sides. But you'd have to use your own logic and look at the situation. If a country whom we had previously went to war with owed us money and didn't pay
and they were expanding rapidly and conquering neighbouring territories and it looks like we might be next, you really think they'd have to kill some minorities living within their territory first before we decide to bomb the shit out of them? It makes absolutely no sense.
And considering the horrific nature of what did occur to the Jewish people in Germany, it's like a spit on the face when someone like you comes up and says it never happened.