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Bro, any statement about reality has the burden of proof. It doesn't matter if its worded positively as in "something is" or negatively as in "something isn't." By your logic, if I say 2 + 2 does not equal 4, I shouldn't have the burden of proving that because I stated it negatively? If no one has ever taught me or shown me proof that 2 + 2 equals 4, that mean I can make the absolute statement that 2 + 2 DOES NOT equal 4 and I'm immune to having to prove that claim on reality due to lack of proof of the contrary?
Why do Atheists have to disprove your beliefs and thoughts?

There is no evidence of a god, and therefore if you want to make up a god in your mind then fine, who cares. However once people start acting like it's a fact, then you have to prove it. I don't have to disprove YOUR imaginary friend, that would be ridiculous. If I ran around telling everyone I could fly, and when questioned answered "Well you can't prove I can't" everyone would laugh at the ridiculousness of it. When it comes to religion people act like this is a good argument, it's not it's ridiculous. It's your theory therefore it's your responsibility to prove it, not anyone else's to disprove it.

Secondly, just because something hasn't been proven to not exist does not mean that it does. If I say that the Hulk from the Marvel characters does exist, then as there is no evidence to suggest he doesn't does not prove that he does.

There is not a scrap of evidence that there is a god, none whatsoever. There is a staggering amount of evidence for evolution amongst other things that contradict lots of your beliefs. Why would you expect me to take the view of the people who provide no evidence?

AND evolution does not state we come from monkeys, it states we have a common ancestor with apes. If you thought that evolution stated we come from monkeys then perhaps you should reflect upon your knowledge on evolution and do some reading and then make your mind up on the theory. Many of you won't do that, you worry that it's blasphemy or just want to avoid something that might shatter your beliefs. Well as an Atheist I can read anything, holy scriptures or science and anything in between, when we draw our conclusions I can see the full picture whilst you subject yourself to only one small portion.

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Those last two paragraphs aren't so much in reply to Noble, I realise he didn't state we evolved from monkeys etc.

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Bro, any statement about reality has the burden of proof. It doesn't matter if its worded positively as in "something is" or negatively as in "something isn't." By your logic, if I say 2 + 2 does not equal 4, I shouldn't have the burden of proving that because I stated it negatively? If no one has ever taught me or shown me proof that 2 + 2 equals 4, that mean I can make the absolute statement that 2 + 2 DOES NOT equal 4 and I'm immune to having to prove that claim on reality due to lack of proof of the contrary?
Why do Atheists have to disprove your beliefs and thoughts?

There is no evidence of a god, and therefore if you want to make up a god in your mind then fine, who cares. However once people start acting like it's a fact, then you have to prove it. I don't have to disprove YOUR imaginary friend, that would be ridiculous. If I ran around telling everyone I could fly, and when questioned answered "Well you can't prove I can't" everyone would laugh at the ridiculousness of it. When it comes to religion people act like this is a good argument, it's not it's ridiculous. It's your theory therefore it's your responsibility to prove it, not anyone else's to disprove it.

Secondly, just because something hasn't been proven to not exist does not mean that it does. If I say that the Hulk from the Marvel characters does exist, then as there is no evidence to suggest he doesn't does not prove that he does.

There is not a scrap of evidence that there is a god, none whatsoever. There is a staggering amount of evidence for evolution amongst other things that contradict lots of your beliefs. Why would you expect me to take the view of the people who provide no evidence?

AND evolution does not state we come from monkeys, it states we have a common ancestor with apes. If you thought that evolution stated we come from monkeys then perhaps you should reflect upon your knowledge on evolution and do some reading and then make your mind up on the theory. Many of you won't do that, you worry that it's blasphemy or just want to avoid something that might shatter your beliefs. Well as an Atheist I can read anything, holy scriptures or science and anything in between, when we draw our conclusions I can see the full picture whilst you subject yourself to only one small portion.

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Those last two paragraphs aren't so much in reply to Noble, I realise he didn't state we evolved from monkeys etc.

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