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Dave..i feel ya ya..I wasn't jus referring to multies being forced? or even the flow being bent..but I be getin comments about bars wit lines ending with like: LINE/PRIME/CLIMB'MIND shit like this..and I use sumtimes up to 5 plus syllables..simple or not with the wording..i keep my lines connected together with conceptual info..and most people don't realize that I keystle move every verse and drop um as opens..my personal battles are like most everyone else..i jus voicing wut I think people need to change..but it will always be at it is..thanks yal for the feedback