[King John]

Originally Posted by Louie Dawgs

I'm not a theist, and this is a high quality argument.

If I were to play advocate of the theist stance, however, I'd have to go the calvinist route and side with the concept of predestination.

That's what I'm saying though, if our lives are predetermined, then we don't really have freewill, thus we can't really be held responsible for our actions if they were always meant to be. Like if it was predetermined that Hitler was going to kill millions of Jews even before he was born, how can he be punished in the after life if there was nothing he could do to stop his fate?

[King John]

Originally Posted by Louie Dawgs

I'm not a theist, and this is a high quality argument.

If I were to play advocate of the theist stance, however, I'd have to go the calvinist route and side with the concept of predestination.

That's what I'm saying though, if our lives are predetermined, then we don't really have freewill, thus we can't really be held responsible for our actions if they were always meant to be. Like if it was predetermined that Hitler was going to kill millions of Jews even before he was born, how can he be punished in the after life if there was nothing he could do to stop his fate?