[Charan]

Originally Posted by korvus

@EtH

i mean, i don't see where i'm not agreeing with you lol. i don't think pugz is some kind of con artist, but i understand that under his direction we lost a lot of potential progress. i'm not going to go into the whole pugz issue, because what we're discussing here is this:

should we pledge money to letsbeef?

answer = not now

and to further upon that, i wouldn't put a penny in until i see a staff that was competent, an active owner engaging with his small community, and an influx of members.

i think we also agree that's not likely to happen.

This. I've made financial contributions in the past a few times, and most recently with this Premium Membership. But Korvus is right. It's not likely the culture here will change any time soon no matter how much money we (the customers) throw at the problem(s).

[Charan]

Originally Posted by korvus

@EtH

i mean, i don't see where i'm not agreeing with you lol. i don't think pugz is some kind of con artist, but i understand that under his direction we lost a lot of potential progress. i'm not going to go into the whole pugz issue, because what we're discussing here is this:

should we pledge money to letsbeef?

answer = not now

and to further upon that, i wouldn't put a penny in until i see a staff that was competent, an active owner engaging with his small community, and an influx of members.

i think we also agree that's not likely to happen.

This. I've made financial contributions in the past a few times, and most recently with this Premium Membership. But Korvus is right. It's not likely the culture here will change any time soon no matter how much money we (the customers) throw at the problem(s).