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Originally Posted by Indianapolis Jones
I didn't say he barely landed past 2 I said if May fought his usual way he'd barely land (Anything significant) past 2.
But yo.
I'd favour GGG or Canelo in the Octogon with 4oz far more than I'd favour Mcgregor in the ring with 8oz 4oz 2oz gloveless. You talk like Connor is this well rounded MMA fighter with a super ground game LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO. Connor is a striker with the weakest ground game imaginable for someone of his standing. They'd knock him spark out plus GGG actually has a wrestling/Judo background.
But yo.
Give it up and Let it lie man, it's dead lol
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It's why I prefer boxing to MMA. A focused sweet science chess match vs a jack of all trades master of none game of checkers.
Why watch connor punch when you can watch Lomachenko.
Why watch Connor kick when you can watch Ong Bak
Why watch connor wrestle when you can watch WWE.
The sport is boring and sloppy as shit
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Oh 1 more thing. Just wanna throw this put there.
Remember in that thread when I said he'd never last twelve and how the focus on soley having to use his arms would drain him because he couldn't use his legs or take a breather on the ground to share/spread the workload/strain as per MMA allows. And you was having none of it.
Remember how I predicted EXACTLY how this fight would go carry and all. I'm pretty sure I even called round 10 TKO.
Yet here you are arguing with me when everything's pointing to a cold calculated carry that only salty MMA/Connor fans don't wanna acknowledge. lol |
To start, the frequent "laughs", condescending tone and overall attitude of your post, compared to the strictly martial arts conversation from me, should indicate that if either of us is "salty", it's not me.
Conor outwrestled Max Holloway (current UFC Featherweight Champion) with one leg, and was able to negate and nullify everything Chad Mendes had on top of him.
If you are actually an MMA fan, then you'd know Conor has far from the weakest ground game. There's almost no indication that he even has a "weak ground game". Sure, he gets absolutely destroyed if he gets put on his back with Khabib Nurmagomedov and Nate likely will always submit him when they roll, but Khabib just destroyed Michael Johnson, a wrestler, and Nate's got tonnes of submissions on his record. Saying Conor has the worst ground game you've seen is like me saying Prince Naseem has the weakest jaw I've ever seen.
GGG has a judo / wrestling background? Why didn't you say. Jeez, that changes everything. Between GGG's wrestling background and Amir Khan's hard kicks, MMA shouldn't even be a thing. Nah Conor first round submission over Canelo and GGG, one after the other, without getting caught with a punch. Training with Gunnar Nelson every day Vs never training grappling in your entire adult life? Not even a competition. Complete lack of combat understanding and reeks of bias.
"Jack of all trades". You know, don't point to the multiple time world jiu jitsu champions in MMA, multiple time Olympic medallists in MMA. Wrestling superstars, Judo superstars. They just signed one of the best kickboxers on the planet to the UFC. You call it a jack of all trades, I call it complete combat. Boxing is one aspect of combat. It also happens to be one of the weakest bases. Royce Gracie proved that a "style Vs style" format will ALWAYS favour the grapplers. People are convincing themselves that MMA is a "style". Like you are saying "MMA fighters" as though they are a specific breed. MMA is literally the development of techniques based on what is effective. If the hardest puncher in the world entered the UFC and got taken down and submitted, he'd work on his wrestling to avoid getting taken down. This eventually results in the evolution of their combat abilities. MMA is the combination of multiple sciences, not just one. If you're calling someone training their kickboxing with Ernesto Hoost, their jiu jitsu with Cesar Gracie, their wrestling under Daniel Cormier, a "jack of all trades", then I don't know what to tell you mate. You're going to soak yourself in your bias beyond getting through to you.
Why watch Lomachenko strike when you could watch Anderson Silva strike?
Why watch Lomachenko punch when you could watch Rocky?
Why make those stupid points as if they make sense in this argument at all?
"The sport is boring and sloppy as shit". Says it all. Some boxing fans have for some reason taken threat from MMA and are cluelessly spouting nonsense. Don't worry. You can find posts of me calling MMA gay and boring on LB too. I mean I was a stupid as fuck kid arguing with Mr Felon, but you know, you'll grow up some day.
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Originally Posted by NOBLE
I agree with Just C on this one. I thought the first few rounds were 80% acting on the part of Mayweather, and a shitty acting job at that. He barely threw any punches in the first two rounds and just held his hands up. Some of the hits that Conor landed looked like Mayweather let it happen on purpose. It looked like he was intentionally trying to stretch out the fight and not knock him out too quickly in order to give the fans a show. I felt like he could've done what he did in rounds 9 and 10 way earlier if he wanted to.
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Why would he act? The thing is, Mayweather's just not really fought an active guy with good range before. He's fought in fighters, or purely defensive guys who have nothing on him. He handpicked them (that being said those are absolute masters of their craft, he's just better). It was a new thing for him to face. That being said, he had absolutely no trouble using it tok his advantage quickly, then stomping it out the second he felt he wanted to. He'd have liked to have taken those rounds but Mayweather has no real fears of losing the rounds. If you think Mayweather, or any boxer, is okay with being landed on and missing their counter, may as well change your name to Just C haha.
If McGregor had any real footwork or ring generalship, his style might have been something of a challenge. But Mayweather quickly adjusted, never got touched again, and used Conor's over eager activity to his advantage.
But this impression that Mayweather was comfortable doing what he did in round 10 in round 1 but chose not to is just a misunderstanding of Mayweather. He wanted to wear Conor down, first absorbing until it started to get a little uncomfortable then switching it up and being on top of him. He didn't, or doesn't, have that approach in round 1 because it's a needless risk. So Floyd first absorbed, lost a bit of ground, started to take a shot or two, switched it up and pushed Conor all around the ring (although not swinging for the fences) and then when he saw Conor was tired (FUCKING tired) he decided to just go balls to the wall and swing for the fences knowing that Conor was throwing feathers.
It was all Mayweather. He was never in trouble. He was never properly losing. But to act like he didn't have to adjust a bit and wasn't more uncomfortable than he's been in a lot of his much bigger fights is just seeing what you want to see I guess.