I honestly can't believe how much this site goes in circles, and how many people actually support and believe in the same lies over and over again.

Okay, some of you can be forgiven. You weren't around for the last "new site" so you're falling for the same tricks all of us did, but seriously theres enough history going around that it should be known how much of an insult this is.

In 2008, we were getting LB v4. Letsbeef had two development versions after launch, and these were v2 and v3. Then we were getting v4. @X hyped the absolute fuck out of it. After a while he announced that instead of supporting Letsbeef.com, he was making a "new site", FlyHipHop.com. He gave some of us the Beta to the site. It looked good. The intention however was to make it a "battle social site" and not just a battle site. A month later, it was gone and X never addressed the site again.

Then, he ghosted. Probably for about 2 years. Then he returned and announced "new exclusive" and stuck a big ad on the screen banner. Nothing ever came of that and then he took it down.

Then he added a couple of small features here and there. Nothing big or concrete, but enough to pretend he was still involved in the site (and not more invested in the more profitable Rocbattle). I called him out on it in a thread. He sent me a message on MSN saying he loved LB as it was his first site. He convinced me he intended to help the site grow again. This was the last we heard from X in over 5 years.

After 2 years of nothingness, Pugz announced that he was taking over the site. Some time after it was revealed that X intended to shut Letsbeef down, and Pugz said he'd take over instead. The site was split between Pugz and it's former coder, Pseudonym. Pugz would continuously tell us that big things were coming. Huge things. Massive moves. Nothing ever happened. We lay on continuous promises that Pseudo was going to give us tonnes of code and features for years, he never did.

Perhaps the biggest slap in the face was the announcement of Letsbeef v4...take 2. Yes, Pugz once again announced v4, 4 years after his brother had. Did it come? Do you see it?

A couple of small features here and there were added but nothing of good substance.

Pugz would then tell us he intended to change Letsbeef into a more "battle social site". He said that he paid like a thousand dollars to Russian coders who were now working on the site. Pugz never addressed this again and nothing ever came of it.

Then it was nothingness for months until it was revealed that X had purchased the site from Pugz and Pseudo again and was going to work on it part time, equipt with new coding abilities. He rolled out a few cool features, the never added anything for months. Then, he announced that he couldn't work on anything because he was working on a "new site".


So to summarize:-

Step 1: Someone owns or takes over the site.
Step 2: They roll out some small features to get people on board.
Step 3: They announce a new version and/or site and we just have to be patient.
Step 4: Reveal the site isn't even going to be a battle site anymore.
Step 5: Blame coders not doing their work.
Step 6: Ghost.
Step 7: Repeat Step 1.

I honestly can't believe how much this site goes in circles, and how many people actually support and believe in the same lies over and over again.

Okay, some of you can be forgiven. You weren't around for the last "new site" so you're falling for the same tricks all of us did, but seriously theres enough history going around that it should be known how much of an insult this is.

In 2008, we were getting LB v4. Letsbeef had two development versions after launch, and these were v2 and v3. Then we were getting v4. @X hyped the absolute fuck out of it. After a while he announced that instead of supporting Letsbeef.com, he was making a "new site", FlyHipHop.com. He gave some of us the Beta to the site. It looked good. The intention however was to make it a "battle social site" and not just a battle site. A month later, it was gone and X never addressed the site again.

Then, he ghosted. Probably for about 2 years. Then he returned and announced "new exclusive" and stuck a big ad on the screen banner. Nothing ever came of that and then he took it down.

Then he added a couple of small features here and there. Nothing big or concrete, but enough to pretend he was still involved in the site (and not more invested in the more profitable Rocbattle). I called him out on it in a thread. He sent me a message on MSN saying he loved LB as it was his first site. He convinced me he intended to help the site grow again. This was the last we heard from X in over 5 years.

After 2 years of nothingness, Pugz announced that he was taking over the site. Some time after it was revealed that X intended to shut Letsbeef down, and Pugz said he'd take over instead. The site was split between Pugz and it's former coder, Pseudonym. Pugz would continuously tell us that big things were coming. Huge things. Massive moves. Nothing ever happened. We lay on continuous promises that Pseudo was going to give us tonnes of code and features for years, he never did.

Perhaps the biggest slap in the face was the announcement of Letsbeef v4...take 2. Yes, Pugz once again announced v4, 4 years after his brother had. Did it come? Do you see it?

A couple of small features here and there were added but nothing of good substance.

Pugz would then tell us he intended to change Letsbeef into a more "battle social site". He said that he paid like a thousand dollars to Russian coders who were now working on the site. Pugz never addressed this again and nothing ever came of it.

Then it was nothingness for months until it was revealed that X had purchased the site from Pugz and Pseudo again and was going to work on it part time, equipt with new coding abilities. He rolled out a few cool features, the never added anything for months. Then, he announced that he couldn't work on anything because he was working on a "new site".


So to summarize:-

Step 1: Someone owns or takes over the site.
Step 2: They roll out some small features to get people on board.
Step 3: They announce a new version and/or site and we just have to be patient.
Step 4: Reveal the site isn't even going to be a battle site anymore.
Step 5: Blame coders not doing their work.
Step 6: Ghost.
Step 7: Repeat Step 1.