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@Swagga Lee do agree with you but I can only have a knowledge based on the information available. That's all any of us can do. I also agree with @Godbody in the sense that you are really dealing in semantics. Of course we know only what we were told and when new information is presented knowledge changes.
Making a distinction between knowledge and information is not mere semantics. When I arrived at my present view of what constitutes knowledge, I had to throw away 99% of the things I thought I knew and un-learn a lot of things. Today, I know very little, if anything at all...but the things I do "know" stand on a much more solid foundation. There's actually a lot of freedom in that (knowing that you know very little). Not saying that knowledge can't be derived from information, but like I said before, the information has to be internalized (through experience, evidence, reasoning). You are your own first reference to reality. Everything you come to be aware of, you become aware of through being you. So the adage that "if man must know, man must himself BE what he knows" holds a lot of weight to me.
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@Swagga Lee do agree with you but I can only have a knowledge based on the information available. That's all any of us can do. I also agree with @Godbody in the sense that you are really dealing in semantics. Of course we know only what we were told and when new information is presented knowledge changes.
Making a distinction between knowledge and information is not mere semantics. When I arrived at my present view of what constitutes knowledge, I had to throw away 99% of the things I thought I knew and un-learn a lot of things. Today, I know very little, if anything at all...but the things I do "know" stand on a much more solid foundation. There's actually a lot of freedom in that (knowing that you know very little). Not saying that knowledge can't be derived from information, but like I said before, the information has to be internalized (through experience, evidence, reasoning). You are your own first reference to reality. Everything you come to be aware of, you become aware of through being you. So the adage that "if man must know, man must himself BE what he knows" holds a lot of weight to me.
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