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Very interesting questions. For someone to ask "will we be in every possible configuration of matter at some point in the future" or "has each one of us already been to Hell, Heaven, the Star Wars universe, and the Culture, and many variants of each" presupposes we have absolute identities which are absolute even beyond the expiration of our physical bodies. If their position is that we are essentially unique arrangements of particles, those arrangements are definite, and if the same arrangement could be reconstituted in another place or time in the universe (Heaven, Hell, the future), then that would mean WE manifest in those other places and time. My problem with that supposition is that I don't believe our existence or identity is absolute. I believe it is relative. I am not ME simply because of the unique arrangement of particles which constitute my body. If that was the case, that would mean I am a different person than I was this afternoon before I had lunch and added new particles. Or it could mean I am a completely different person that I was from when I was a toddler because since then, practically every cell I had in my body (besides the neurons) have been replaced several times over and I obviously am bigger and have way more particles now. Even if I had maintained the exact same set and arrangement of particles, I would argue that had I not had certain experiences, had I not had certain relationships which formed my identity, I would not be ME despite having the same arrangement of atoms.
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Very interesting questions. For someone to ask "will we be in every possible configuration of matter at some point in the future" or "has each one of us already been to Hell, Heaven, the Star Wars universe, and the Culture, and many variants of each" presupposes we have absolute identities which are absolute even beyond the expiration of our physical bodies. If their position is that we are essentially unique arrangements of particles, those arrangements are definite, and if the same arrangement could be reconstituted in another place or time in the universe (Heaven, Hell, the future), then that would mean WE manifest in those other places and time. My problem with that supposition is that I don't believe our existence or identity is absolute. I believe it is relative. I am not ME simply because of the unique arrangement of particles which constitute my body. If that was the case, that would mean I am a different person than I was this afternoon before I had lunch and added new particles. Or it could mean I am a completely different person that I was from when I was a toddler because since then, practically every cell I had in my body (besides the neurons) have been replaced several times over and I obviously am bigger and have way more particles now. Even if I had maintained the exact same set and arrangement of particles, I would argue that had I not had certain experiences, had I not had certain relationships which formed my identity, I would not be ME despite having the same arrangement of atoms.
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