[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Dave

All of the above would implicate that the universe is real though.

What if the universe is simply a delusion perpetuated by something else that is simply too complex to be seen as what it really is; an illusion.

But if that's the case, and you are knowingly stating that it is an illusion does it really remain an illusion? Take into account that something is only an illusion until you know how it works, then it becomes much more simple. So, if we're knowingly stating that the universe itself is actually an illusion is it actually an illusion anymore? And if that's the case, was it ever an illusion from the start, or simply a machine of much more simple parts created to seem much more complex?

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by Dave

All of the above would implicate that the universe is real though.

What if the universe is simply a delusion perpetuated by something else that is simply too complex to be seen as what it really is; an illusion.

But if that's the case, and you are knowingly stating that it is an illusion does it really remain an illusion? Take into account that something is only an illusion until you know how it works, then it becomes much more simple. So, if we're knowingly stating that the universe itself is actually an illusion is it actually an illusion anymore? And if that's the case, was it ever an illusion from the start, or simply a machine of much more simple parts created to seem much more complex?