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Rowdy 01-24-2022 09:52 AM

How Do Yall Rate Battles?
 
I see a lot of garbage voting and verse praising when battlers are making endless mistakes.

Dudes are stumbling, doing punch ins, voice edits, etc. Like wtf is going on here, honestly? When a person has a decent punch but delivery is poor as all fuck, yall still rate the shit high?

The shit is getting ridiculous. This is not audio battling. If a guy can manipulate his vocals because he can't rap for 90 seconds straight, yall gotta start considering point deduction. Dudes are also stumbling back and forth and yall still claiming mfs are going in.

I legit hate how yall vote. Back when audio battling was legit, none of this shit would fly. Every since X gave yall the power to upload your verses, dudes been taking ADVANTAGE.

It's ridiculous because the voters think it's ok to fuck up a thousand times in your verse. They still say you were fire.

Óðinn 01-24-2022 11:55 AM

Agree. Audio Battling rules will be updated. (Forgot about doing this).

But certainly punch-ins will not be tolerated in audio battling moving forward.

Rowdy 01-24-2022 12:21 PM

Not saying it should be a rule at all so whoever thinks that would have taken my post the wrong way.

I'm saying people should deduct points for dudes doing punch ins.

Like stumbling. We can't tell someone they're DQ'd for stumbling

But to praise punch ins, edits, stumbles, etc; the shits ridiculous asf.

How are yall rating peoples flow and delivery if all you have to do is make a few edits to fix your fuck ups?

Phroxen 01-24-2022 12:57 PM

Allowing the uploading of vocals is usually a good thing. Let's say someone has a garbage ass mic... they can add certain filters and maybe condense the highs and lows so that it sounds like a better mic. If they're skilled enough to do that and make their audio sound better, I think we all win in that scenario.

One can also layer vocals for chorus/reverb or to accent certain phrases or punches.. this can be seen as either a good or a bad thing. Similarly, one can straight up add reverb to the track to create echo effects, as I've seen in audio battles. Some like this, others don't.

Uploading also allows you to "clean up" your verse in different ways. One instance would be to omit any sounds of taking a breath.. while this wouldn't necessarily fall into the cheating category, it could definitely make the verse sound artificial. I haven't see it done on this site yet, though. Along these lines is punching in, which goes past just omitting breathing between bars but could cause them to overlap entirely. It definitely takes away from the performance aspect of an audio battle and makes me consider whether or not a battler has the capacity to spit the shit they wrote confidently and accurately. However, if someone were to punch in, but did it damn near flawlessly, there would be a lot of finger pointing as to whether or not the person did it or not which would create some chaos.

I'd think the only way to get rid of all of this and make it pure "one take" vs "one take" is to get rid of uploading vocals, but that gets rid of a lot of other beneficial tools at the same time and could lessen the quality of battles that we hear. If you have a trash ass mic, but are able to tweak a few things with your audio to make it sound cleaner so I can hear it better to vote then by all means do it. But to allow uploading and at the same time, with regards to editing, say "_____ is prohibited but _____ is allowed" is walking a fine line.

Levi Locke 01-24-2022 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phroxen (Post 1220505)
Allowing the uploading of vocals is usually a good thing. Let's say someone has a garbage ass mic... they can add certain filters and maybe condense the highs and lows so that it sounds like a better mic. If they're skilled enough to do that and make their audio sound better, I think we all win in that scenario.

One can also layer vocals for chorus/reverb or to accent certain phrases or punches.. this can be seen as either a good or a bad thing. Similarly, one can straight up add reverb to the track to create echo effects, as I've seen in audio battles. Some like this, others don't.

Uploading also allows you to "clean up" your verse in different ways. One instance would be to omit any sounds of taking a breath.. while this wouldn't necessarily fall into the cheating category, it could definitely make the verse sound artificial. I haven't see it done on this site yet, though. Along these lines is punching in, which goes past just omitting breathing between bars but could cause them to overlap entirely. It definitely takes away from the performance aspect of an audio battle and makes me consider whether or not a battler has the capacity to spit the shit they wrote confidently and accurately. However, if someone were to punch in, but did it damn near flawlessly, there would be a lot of finger pointing as to whether or not the person did it or not which would create some chaos.

I'd think the only way to get rid of all of this and make it pure "one take" vs "one take" is to get rid of uploading vocals, but that gets rid of a lot of other beneficial tools at the same time and could lessen the quality of battles that we hear. If you have a trash ass mic, but are able to tweak a few things with your audio to make it sound cleaner so I can hear it better to vote then by all means do it. But to allow uploading and at the same time, with regards to editing, say "_____ is prohibited but _____ is allowed" is walking a fine line.

All I read is trash ass mic in 2022. If you can't afford a good mic, quit rapping.

---------- Post added at 01:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:02 PM ----------

People want to know who's the better battler - rapper, not who's better at editing.

Rowdy 01-24-2022 01:34 PM

Basically what @L L o K E E said but in a less harsh way lmaoo cracked me up.

You can record with your phone voice memos and have dope quality. Lots of people hop on discord voice chat via phone ans sound good asf but when it's time to audio battle, it sounds like they're recording with a tablespoon

EtH 01-24-2022 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phroxen (Post 1220505)
Uploading also allows you to "clean up" your verse in different ways. One instance would be to omit any sounds of taking a breath..

I was one second over on my audio verse and did this. Sent it to Punk. He told me I wasn't allowed to upload it as it sounded like a punch in and he'd have to call me out publicly haha.

Rowdy 01-24-2022 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1220510)
I was one second over on my audio verse and did this. Sent it to Punk. He told me I wasn't allowed to upload it as it sounded like a punch in and he'd have to call me out publicly haha.

Well you didn't punch in, lmao you just edited it to remove that breath and I was like... nah chief take that out it sound bad haha

Letum 01-24-2022 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rowdy (Post 1220508)
You can record with your phone voice memos and have dope quality. Lots of people hop on discord voice chat via phone ans sound good asf but when it's time to audio battle, it sounds like they're recording with a tablespoon

I recorded my last round on my phone. That can be done, I promise you I won't next round however.

EtH 01-24-2022 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rowdy (Post 1220511)
Well you didn't punch in, lmao you just edited it to remove that breath and I was like... nah chief take that out it sound bad haha

Sounded exactly like a punch in haha.


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