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UnEtHıCaL 08-29-2010 12:14 AM

MMA or Boxing?
 
Watching poor old James Toney Vs Randy Couture there just made me want to make this thread, again.

MMA has gotten so big in recient years, and boxing has went into somewhat of a decline due to the politics which has become involved. This means that MMA has broken in and became a bigger sport.

So, what do you prefer?

UnEtHıCaL 08-29-2010 12:26 AM

To me, boixng is still much more entertaining. I will just show you the last two full events I have watched in boxing and MMA, and I think it sums up why I prefer boxing:-

Mike Jones V Irving Garcia KO 5
Antwone Smith V Lanardo Tyner TKO 9
Kevin Carmody V Ryan Belasco UD 6
Walter Edwards V Anthony Smith TKO 2
Miguel Corcino V Epifanio Cosme Rodriguez TKO 1

Nate Diaz V Marcus Davis SUB 3
Kenny Florian V Gray Maynard UD 3
Demian Maia V Mario Miranda UD 3
Randy Couture V James Toney SUB 1
Frankie Edgar (c) vs. B.J. Penn *STOPPED WATCHING*

The boxing event had one decision, and both early and late KOs, and this was a small enough event.

The UFC event had two decisions, two submissions (one unimpressive by Couture) and whatever will happen in the Penn fight.

I watch this stuff for KOs. I feel that MMA has too much grappling, clinching and fear of being hit in the fighters (rightfully due to practically bare knuckle fighting). There isn't enough stand up punch for punch action, which I find more entertaining than gaining a more advantagous position on the ground.

That's just me though. I have boxing in my blood, and although as a sport I'd prefer to do MMA, I think Boxing is more entertaining to watch.

Chester Waterman 08-29-2010 12:53 AM

Frank Edgar and B.J. Penn UD 5

25 Minutes, no KOs or Submissions.
Awesome!

Step S 08-29-2010 12:57 AM

Boxing. Boxing is just some much more joyful to watch. It is original, and never gets old. But again, it is opinionated.

Chester Waterman 08-29-2010 12:59 AM

In defence of MMA though, you get to see what you want. Those guys don't have characters as much, which is definently a good thing. Boxing benefited years ago from having your Ali's and Tyson's, but now we have Mayweather afraid of his own record, and the Klitsckhos hiding from David Haye. There should be some sort of way to force them to fight, and have regulation deals or something lol. MMA has the big fights when they are called for.

Step S 08-29-2010 01:01 AM

Thas' no doubt E ... Co-sign.

Chester Waterman 08-29-2010 01:03 AM

Also, there is so much more of a prospect feeling in boxing. I have like 20 names written in my phone of boxer who have impressed me enough for me to follow them and watch them when I can. Antwone Smith, Felix Diaz, Mike Jones, Josef Elegele, David Lemiuex etc. I could never do that with MMA.

TheStudent 08-29-2010 01:10 AM

I Like How The Bias Of Your Statements Just Show Right Away...

Just Jose 08-29-2010 01:29 AM

And you have the gayest Avy ^

PRiiME 08-29-2010 02:28 AM

^he's right. but Fuck LOD

King John 08-29-2010 02:42 AM

K-1 is better than both, but if I had to choose I'd choose MMA just because it incorporates a lot more skills into it.

Chester Waterman 08-29-2010 10:14 PM

KJ, isn't K-1 just an MMA promotion?

Stud, I favor Boxing, how can you say which one you favor without being bias? You are really stupid this year for some reason.

NawkOut 08-29-2010 11:46 PM

Boxing, Boxing, Boxing.

Where's UA? Preach for me.

dmullz 08-29-2010 11:47 PM

Both are awesome, MMA is clearly More Versatile,, but Boxing is Legendary.....Btw Ive done both for a decent amount of time, nothing is more fun the Boxing

King John 08-29-2010 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 497892)
KJ, isn't K-1 just an MMA promotion?

Stud, I favor Boxing, how can you say which one you favor without being bias? You are really stupid this year for some reason.

K-1 is kickboxing.

dmullz 08-30-2010 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King John (Post 497953)
K-1 is kickboxing.

Real Muay Thai shits on everything

TheStudent 08-30-2010 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 497892)
KJ, isn't K-1 just an MMA promotion?

Stud, I favor Boxing, how can you say which one you favor without being bias? You are really stupid this year for some reason.

Seems That Way Eh? :rolleyes: It's A Thing I'm Doing, Don't Trip Stu'll Be Back Soon.

Chester Waterman 08-30-2010 09:54 AM

Before Stu, you fooled people into thinking you were smart with good grammar and spelling, but now you will NEVER get 2010 smarted award.

I am very surprised at everyone saying boxing. I thought everyone would be on the MMA bandwagon. KJ and dmullz, K-1 is not that entertaining compaired to boxing though, not hype, and dmullz you have never seen REAL muay thai as it is not televised.

John Dos 08-30-2010 10:19 AM

Boxing. Alot of those MMA ppl seem to scared to get knocked out so they resort to ground moves.

Chester Waterman 08-30-2010 10:21 AM

It's not really scared to be knocked out Dosage. Some people are genuinley not able to fuck with other people in the stand up game. MMA has elements like Ju-Jitsu, which are nothing to do with stand up fighting, and some people are Ju-Jitsu experts but lack in stand up, so it's only reasonable for them to try and win it with ground domination or submission.

King John 08-30-2010 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dosage (Post 498193)
Boxing. Alot of those MMA ppl seem to scared to get knocked out so they resort to ground moves.

Or are a lot of boxers scarred to get submitted so they resort to stand up?

Louie Dawgs 08-31-2010 09:10 AM

honestly? MMA's not even THAT much fun to watch.

reEFer 08-31-2010 09:14 AM

MMA :high:

FreezyCT 08-31-2010 09:57 AM

i was at a bar across the street from the TD Garden when that fight was going on...the bar showed all the fights leading up to it, but not the actual fight, so i never got to see the outcome (but heard it was bad)...a few of the fighters came in later that night (chuck lidel being one of them) - pretty cool seeing these ppl in person

King John 08-31-2010 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louie Dawgs (Post 498598)
honestly? MMA's not even THAT much fun to watch.

Depends on who's fighting.

Major Hater 08-31-2010 03:02 PM

lets face it MMA is far More hardcore we all like seeing ppl get beat the shit out of!!
id like to see flloyd mayweather vs anderson silva tho just so mayweather shuts the fuck up thinkin hes great.
MMA/UFC Kicks fuckin arse compared to boxin-always has realli
look back at old ufc/mma event's they were probly way more hardcore in the early 90's

Major Hater 08-31-2010 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King John (Post 497953)
K-1 is kickboxing.

Its techinicly is kickboxing but its more striking(boxing too)
Check mirko crop cop vs bob sapp in pride-then tell me how boxing is better:high:

dmullz 08-31-2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 498183)
Before Stu, you fooled people into thinking you were smart with good grammar and spelling, but now you will NEVER get 2010 smarted award.

I am very surprised at everyone saying boxing. I thought everyone would be on the MMA bandwagon. KJ and dmullz, K-1 is not that entertaining compaired to boxing though, not hype, and dmullz you have never seen REAL muay thai as it is not televised.

Studied abroad last summer in Thai Land asshole-:cool:

Louie Dawgs 08-31-2010 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King John (Post 498621)
Depends on who's fighting.

no, seriously. MMA is aight, but it's not that great. Admittedly, there are some horribly boring boxing matches, but as a whole it's much more entertaining.

RULE 08-31-2010 06:34 PM

I prefer boxing personally.

MMA is great at times but too much groundwork is a bit boring.

Boxing just got that special factor to me. Especially heavyweight shit.

UnEtHıCaL 08-31-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hear Ooh (Post 498649)
lets face it MMA is far More hardcore we all like seeing ppl get beat the shit out of!!
id like to see flloyd mayweather vs anderson silva tho just so mayweather shuts the fuck up thinkin hes great.
MMA/UFC Kicks fuckin arse compared to boxin-always has realli
look back at old ufc/mma event's they were probly way more hardcore in the early 90's

You'd like to see Anderson Silva Vs Floyd Mayweather? Me to, Floyd would murder him.

Oh, you werten't taling about in boxing? SMH

So many people, like you, say "Yeah, boxers are shit in UFC, James Toney got murdered proving that MMA is better". I'm sorry, but were they boxing? Toney would KO Couture in like 30seconds in boxing. Floyd Mayweather would KO Anderson Silva like round 3 in boxing.

Louie Dawgs 08-31-2010 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnEtHiCaL (Post 498733)
You'd like to see Anderson Silva Vs Floyd Mayweather? Me to, Floyd would murder him.

Oh, you werten't taling about in boxing? SMH

So many people, like you, say "Yeah, boxers are shit in UFC, James Toney got murdered proving that MMA is better". I'm sorry, but were they boxing? Toney would KO Couture in like 30seconds in boxing. Floyd Mayweather would KO Anderson Silva like round 3 in boxing.

MMA cat's are so bad at throwing. sure, it's fun to see them throw all power punches, but they would have no chance against a boxer.

UnEtHıCaL 08-31-2010 07:04 PM

Oh definently. A champion boxer Vs a champion MMA fighter in the same weight in a boxing match would be over in seconds for the boxer. Although, this is similarly true visa versa for the MMA fighter.

Therefore, it all comes down to which is more entertaining.

Multiple Madness 08-31-2010 08:26 PM

MMA you fucking idiot... Boxing is fucking boring, a bit of blood and they stop the fight, MMA is a bloodbath and fucking brutal... When would you see a Boxer fight with a broken arm, leg, nose etc??? Ok maybe a nose, but brake his arm and win the fight?? NEVER!!! Boxing fucking sucks and is for people who have no life and think boxing will get them out of a shit hole, MMA fighters are athletes and proper fighters!

Multiple Madness 08-31-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louie Dawgs (Post 498734)
MMA cat's are so bad at throwing. sure, it's fun to see them throw all power punches, but they would have no chance against a boxer.

I'm sorry, Shane Carwin who??? These guys use 4oz gloves, not the faggot padded gloves Boxers use... You need to watch Fighting Science and see who hits harder ;)

Chester Waterman 08-31-2010 08:29 PM

Shane Carwin would get KOed in round 1 by any world title holding heavyweight boxer.

Multiple Madness 08-31-2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 498771)
Shane Carwin would get KOed in round 1 by any world title holding heavyweight boxer.

I'm sorry, he really wouldn't! They put him on a lb per square inch punch bag and he hit harder than Tyson, FACT! Plus his chin is used to 4oz gloves not shitstain 8 or 12oz gloves...

Chester Waterman 08-31-2010 08:37 PM

Fair enough, he may be able to punch harder, but he can't punch BETTER. He is sloppy. 90% of MMA fighters are sloppy punchers in comparrison to boxers. Tyson would DEFINENTLY KO Carwin, maybe in his first 3 punches. Punch for punch, not a single UFC fighter can match up to the boxing greats of each weight relevent.

Carwin V Tyson
Liddel V Jones Jr.
Anderson Silva V Pacquiao

ETC. ETC.

Multiple Madness 08-31-2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 498776)
Fair enough, he may be able to punch harder, but he can't punch BETTER. He is sloppy. 90% of MMA fighters are sloppy punchers in comparrison to boxers. Tyson would DEFINENTLY KO Carwin, maybe in his first 3 punches. Punch for punch, not a single UFC fighter can match up to the boxing greats of each weight relevent.

Carwin V Tyson
Liddel V Jones Jr.
Anderson Silva V Pacquiao

ETC. ETC.

I agree with punching technique... and maybe accuracy... But I guess all we can say is, we'll never know!! I ain't gonna argue the toss about this shit, I like MMA and don't really care for Boxing, so of course Imma be biased! K1, Pride, UFC and Cage Rage are my shizz!

Multiple Madness 08-31-2010 08:40 PM

Put them in a street fight and see what happens, no rules, no gloves, no refs, no corner screaming at them for help... Just them and their fists!


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