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pUL5e 11-24-2009 04:21 PM

OMG! D12 & Canibus diss Eminem!
 
The track is called Air Strike...OH MY GODD..THESE NIGGAS WENT IN!!!!!!

But Eminem will fuckin squash all of em...

EDIT: Bizarre made a statement on his twitter sayin he never made a track with Canibus, so the D12 verse is fake but Canibus and DZK went at em

Exalted Echelon 11-24-2009 04:37 PM

thats the dumbest shit i've ever heard

its like the outlawz decidin to diss pac back in 96

pUL5e 11-24-2009 04:41 PM

So that makes it dumb? You never know what kinda tensions are going on within a group, so it's not impossible that D12 would diss him.

But again Bizarre confirmed he never collabed with Can-i-bitch...

UNKNOWN ARTIST 11-24-2009 04:43 PM

it's just a bizzare sample at the end

tank posted it in another thread

pUL5e 11-24-2009 04:56 PM

Rofl, DZK is pretty fuckin nice..Thats why I love underground sites and shit, lets you broaden who you listen to...

"He fell off so hard, this faggot broke his accent / I'm flipping through the channels watching BRUNO get his ass sniffed".....Rofl

UnEtHıCaL 11-25-2009 03:26 PM

I disliked how the Irony of Eminem thinking he was ''crazy'' and shit, said ''My bum is on your lips, my bum is on your lips, and if im lucky you might just give it a little kiss'' and now hes like ''arrrggghhh...someone whos not depressed being close to me....to the fagmobile!''

Exalted Echelon 11-25-2009 03:54 PM

eth we're not gonna start in on eminem from any and every available angle again are we?

Krhyme Killz 11-25-2009 04:01 PM

Canibus > Eminem

King John 11-25-2009 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Krhyme (Post 367855)
Canibus > Eminem

lol, how you figure that? Just because you rap about bullshit and use big words doesn't mean you're a good rapper, Eminem shits on him any day.

Exalted Echelon 11-25-2009 04:39 PM

canibus is very one dimensional........i have to be in a certain mood to listen to him

eminem is a versatile as anybody out

Krhyme Killz 11-25-2009 05:43 PM

firstly, Em isnt versatile at all...

the knock on Canibus is that he's too technically nice, without being accessible...BUT i think that his usage of obscure scientific references and knowledge of poetic technique make for a better, more deep artist. not making assumptions, but i seriously doubt that someone who is aware of the true craftmanship that Bis puts into his rhymes could say that Em was better. Em is nice with flow and has some entertaining work, but Bis is a rapper's rapper. He can do storytelling, kick ill philosophies, talk about the rap game, and then an element where he goes totally off the wall with abstract ideas. Bis vs. Rip alone shows that this guy is more creative and can develop a verse better than Em.

Exalted Echelon 11-25-2009 05:53 PM

i agree with most of what u say about canibus

BUT

eminem is not verstatile? are u serious?

just for shits and giggles...........name one thing he ISN'T exceptional at besides all that nerd rap canibus is on

remarK 11-25-2009 06:01 PM

Em is versatile as fuck.. but I also like what Krhyme said about Canibus..

King John 11-25-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Krhyme (Post 367872)
firstly, Em isnt versatile at all...

the knock on Canibus is that he's too technically nice, without being accessible...BUT i think that his usage of obscure scientific references and knowledge of poetic technique make for a better, more deep artist. not making assumptions, but i seriously doubt that someone who is aware of the true craftmanship that Bis puts into his rhymes could say that Em was better. Em is nice with flow and has some entertaining work, but Bis is a rapper's rapper. He can do storytelling, kick ill philosophies, talk about the rap game, and then an element where he goes totally off the wall with abstract ideas. Bis vs. Rip alone shows that this guy is more creative and can develop a verse better than Em.

That's the thing Canibus isn't even a rapper, he a poet trying to rap, which makes him sound like ass, his flow is horrible, and he tries to rhyme syllables instead of words which doesn't work at all. Eminem's flow is one of the best ever, he can write serious songs just as easily and he can make radio hits, that's the definition of versatility, listen to Infinite and tell me Em isn't lyrical, not to mention in terms of diss tracks Eminem is second to none.

remarK 11-25-2009 06:06 PM

I just listened to the track tho, it really aint bad I like how they went in on how he was dissin' Mariah and whanot & the Dead Wrong diss.. it was alright but I guarantee Em is gonna shit all over them.. haha..

but on the real, Bizarre is horrible.. I still don't understand why they use him..

Krhyme Killz 11-25-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exalted Echelon (Post 367874)
i agree with most of what u say about canibus

BUT

eminem is not verstatile? are u serious?

just for shits and giggles...........name one thing he ISN'T exceptional at besides all that nerd rap canibus is on

you calling it nerd rap speaks more to your tastes than anything else.

but, i'll indulge you...

Em is strictly a sideshow at this point in his career to be honest...but giving him the benefit of the doubt, lets look at the subject matter of his first 2 to 3 albums. He came from a broken home. He has abused drugs. He likes to talk about violent acts. Once you get past that, what are you really left with?

Em is one of my favorite artists though, but he's not quite on Bis' level to me stylistically or content-wise.

Krhyme Killz 11-25-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by King John (Post 367878)
That's the thing Canibus isn't even a rapper, he a poet trying to rap, which makes him sound like ass, his flow is horrible, and he tries to rhyme syllables instead of words which doesn't work at all. Eminem's flow is one of the best ever, he can write serious songs just as easily and he can make radio hits, that's the definition of versatility, listen to Infinite and tell me Em isn't lyrical, not to mention in terms of diss tracks Eminem is second to none.

naw, g...i can name quite a few people with better flows
1. Kool G Rap
2. Method Man
3. B.I.G
4. Jay
5. Rakim
6. Pun
7. Big Daddy Kane
8. Ghostface
9. Instpectah Deck
10. Pusha T
11. Scarface
12. Andre 3000
13. the list goes on


as for dissing...he's nice, but has no classic diss records

Exalted Echelon 11-25-2009 06:37 PM

em has done a way above average song in pretty much any kind of song there is to be done........if you go by making a good song then he can do it when it comes to anything

as far as flow i like his a lot.........out of that list i'd put maybe method man with his real crisp delivery and ispectah deck which i'm a huge fan of ahead of eminem

g rap isn't real versatile with his flow he sounds pretty much the same on every track, same with biggy

but eminem caters perfectly to every track

Exalted Echelon 11-25-2009 06:40 PM

ghostface is one of my favorites........flow is ass though

Krhyme Killz 11-25-2009 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exalted Echelon (Post 367893)
ghostface is one of my favorites........flow is ass though

other than BIG and NaS..Ghost is my fav...and no...his flow is crazy sick...(see supreme clientele)

please name Em's classic diss record though

Krhyme Killz 11-25-2009 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarB (Post 367894)
cannabis aint really verseatile and his flow is boring
you have a great vocabulary......... ok?

he needs to show something better (like em does)
i mean any 7th grader with a dictonary and thesarus could do that.

then why can't you?

Exalted Echelon 11-25-2009 06:50 PM

i dunno about "classic" diss records.......dunno why that question was aimed at me anyway

but his whitey ford diss, last track on devils night, nail in the coffin dissin benzino, another benzino diss, and the hail mary remix are all dope songs

he said some hella nice shit on those benzino tracks, and i would listen to those songs before just about any diss track besides maybe hit em up or ether

Krhyme Killz 11-25-2009 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exalted Echelon (Post 367898)
i dunno about "classic" diss records.......dunno why that question was aimed at me anyway

but his whitey ford diss, last track on devils night, nail in the coffin dissin benzino, another benzino diss, and the hail mary remix are all dope songs

he said some hella nice shit on those benzino tracks, and i would listen to those songs before just about any diss track besides maybe hit em up or ether

decent songs...but none of them are nicer than 2nd Round Knockout to me...

and i negelected to correct you on the Kool G Rap comment you made...
that man CREATED the multi flow....SINGLE HANDEDLY

Exalted Echelon 11-25-2009 06:57 PM

yeah, and thats all he does is rattle off multies and use basically the same flow....just varies the speed

don't get me wrong g rap and ghostface are easily two of my favorites but g rap doesn't vary his and ghostface sounds off beat and awkward at times

Krhyme Killz 11-25-2009 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exalted Echelon (Post 367902)
yeah, and thats all he does is rattle off multies and use basically the same flow....just varies the speed

don't get me wrong g rap and ghostface are easily two of my favorites but g rap doesn't vary his and ghostface sounds off beat and awkward at times

i feel what you're saying...BUT G Rap created that sound so he gotta get credit for that. And Ghost's style flow is unorthodox, but sick

King John 11-25-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Krhyme (Post 367884)
naw, g...i can name quite a few people with better flows
1. Kool G Rap
2. Method Man
3. B.I.G
4. Jay
5. Rakim
6. Pun
7. Big Daddy Kane
8. Ghostface
9. Instpectah Deck
10. Pusha T
11. Scarface
12. Andre 3000
13. the list goes on


as for dissing...he's nice, but has no classic diss records

Only person on that list I'd consider taking over Em is Biggie and maybe Pun, his flow is lightyears better than Canibus' , just look at Em's sentence structure it's ridiculous the way he uses in rymes and multies is the best I've ever heard, and as far as diss tracks Can I Bitch is better than the diss track Canibus just put out, Second Round Knockout was nice, but it did him no good, LL ultimately won that exchange.

Celsius 11-25-2009 08:10 PM

can i bitch track was a joke...fuckin wack.

Silk Account 19 11-25-2009 08:21 PM

Wow. This aint D12.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYOV9OGwV-4[/media]

Is the last verse Supposed to be bizzare? Either he got better. Or This isn't D12, Or else Swifty, Kuniva and Kon Artis would be in it too.

Silk Account 19 11-25-2009 08:23 PM

Eminem's first diss vs Canibus...LOL!

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUf8jdrUENU[/media]

pUL5e 11-25-2009 10:39 PM

Canibus is ass. He's an over-rated under-rated MC, if ya catch my drift. He's slept on mainstream but the underground heads can't get off his dick. And for what?

This dude is a bum using physics and scientific shit as gimmicks. Eminem is versatile; Stan, Without Me, Insane, Guilty Conscience...

I could ghostwrite for Canibus and this line would suffice

"The speed of light travels faster than sound / The speed of gravity is 9.0 meters per second then your body finally hits the ground"

Gtfo with these Canibus discussions. I'm not even a Canibus hater, i have two of his albums and listened to the 1,000 bars he put out on all 3 beats which was 45 minutes of nothing, it had its parts where he was raw but it was scientifical nonsense that nobody wants to fuckin listen to...

King John 11-25-2009 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pULSe (Post 367945)
Canibus is ass. He's an over-rated under-rated MC, if ya catch my drift. He's slept on mainstream but the underground heads can't get off his dick. And for what?

This dude is a bum using physics and scientific shit as gimmicks. Eminem is versatile; Stan, Without Me, Insane, Guilty Conscience...

I could ghostwrite for Canibus and this line would suffice

"The speed of light travels faster than sound / The speed of gravity is 9.0 meters per second then your body finally hits the ground"

Gtfo with these Canibus discussions. I'm not even a Canibus hater, i have two of his albums and listened to the 1,000 bars he put out on all 3 beats which was 45 minutes of nothing, it had its parts where he was raw but it was scientifical nonsense that nobody wants to fuckin listen to...

This^^^^^^^

Krhyme Killz 11-26-2009 08:44 AM

nope.


gravity is 9.8meters/second^2....Bis wouldnt make that mistake...lol

Without Me = irrelevant filler
those others are good songs though

Brodie B 11-26-2009 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Krhyme (Post 367978)
nope.


gravity is 9.8meters/second^2....Bis wouldnt make that mistake...lol

Without Me = irrelevant filler
those others are good songs though

I fucking hated physics haha I used to use 9.81m/s^2 in the formula because that's what we learned on the first day. And I'd always lose points because my answer was different from the teacher's....even though mine was actually more accurate.

Just C 11-26-2009 11:59 AM

Eminem>Canibus...Why is this even a debate?...When I get home from a hard day..I can stick some Em on and just chill and find something to relate too (Which is what rap is all about) Fuck Canibus..Just desperate now that Eminems coming back to the fore front..Thats all it is..And I'm not a Can hater..1 of the first lp's i bought was by Can...so suck a dick.lol..

Krhyme Killz 11-26-2009 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bingo Bill (Post 367995)
Eminem>Canibus...Why is this even a debate?...When I get home from a hard day..I can stick some Em on and just chill and find something to relate too (Which is what rap is all about) Fuck Canibus..Just desperate now that Eminems coming back to the fore front..Thats all it is..And I'm not a Can hater..1 of the first lp's i bought was by Can...so suck a dick.lol..

lmfao at Bis being one of your first CDs...that says a lot...also says alot that you think hip hop music is all about "something you can relate to"...that's just outright stupid

UnEtHıCaL 11-26-2009 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pULSe (Post 367945)
I could ghostwrite for Canibus and this line would suffice

"The speed of light travels faster than sound / The speed of gravity is 9.0 meters per second then your body finally hits the ground"

But I could ghostwrite for eminem with this;

"Why am I so miserable? I just stabbed a guy in the chest 34 times....mom it's your fault!''

Or, we could walk down the crack a bottle road;

"This is it, Ive given in and said sorry too soon, while you lick a dick and tip the dish to orbit the moon''

UnEtHıCaL 11-26-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exalted Echelon (Post 367854)
eth we're not gonna start in on eminem from any and every available angle again are we?

I stopped bringing it up, but if its, here, ill take it to him :D

I mean, he's a complete hypocrit wannabe psycho ruining his daughters life keeping his rap career alive by collabing with people who suck and dissing people who suck and blaming gay sleeping pill drug addictions on his mom.

King John 11-26-2009 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnEtHiCaL (Post 368007)
I stopped bringing it up, but if its, here, ill take it to him :D

I mean, he's a complete hypocrit wannabe psycho ruining his daughters life keeping his rap career alive by collabing with people who suck and dissing people who suck and blaming gay sleeping pill drug addictions on his mom.

How's he a hypocrite?

UnEtHıCaL 11-26-2009 04:10 PM

As I said, he acts like it's funny to do the whole ''bum is on your lips'' thing but gets pissed off when someone does it to him? Its a joke, don't be such a depressed fuck.

Just C 11-26-2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Krhyme (Post 367997)
lmfao at Bis being one of your first CDs...that says a lot...also says alot that you think hip hop music is all about "something you can relate to"...that's just outright stupid

Instead of being so fucking VAUGE..Why don't you explain?...As far as your view on MY opinion that RAP is all about finding something to relate too(BEING RETARDED)..Go tell that too tha MILLIONS of people who find something of their own situation in the Lyrics of Public Enemy, NWA, Tupac, Nas, Eminem...Your a fucking moron...People don't want to hear a load of scientific babble that only people from fucking MENSA can decyfer...And if you mock me for saying that.. then your a stuck up lil college boy who lives of daddys wealth...Not the average white coller man working 9 to 5 with & average education who finds nothing to attatch to in most of canabus's music...You go check out eminems videos on the likes of youtube and you'll find comments from people all over the world talking about how they found something in his songs they could relate to...Thats why Rap is the force it is to day..


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