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Masked-Reaper 06-22-2022 12:01 PM

So why’s this ok…?
 
Mods can block voters
We can’t block mods


Tourney battle with Odin, Kwons vote gets deleted despite being well explained … reason “he was meant to be blocked”…..

Last battle
https://www.letsbeef.com/tournament_...023&section=tb
Not blocked; no vote deleted …


How can “he was meant to be blocked “ be a reason for a vote being deleted? But PENetration tried to vote and can’t because he’s blocked… so the block works for PENetration but not Kwon?!!

So we don’t get it twisted , no swaying…. But that kinda shit ain’t right. If we said to mods “delete the vote he was meant to be blocked” they wouldn’t do shit ….

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And I created the post cos seems that’s the way to call shit out recently….: so yea, Explain this shady shit

Aggo 06-22-2022 12:09 PM

Mindless seems to be pretty fair tbh. If I went to him with that same complaint I assume he would delete a vote for me. That said, i don't fuck with that block button.

I will say the fact Kwon voted on the last battle no problem is a little sus. Was the block because of that vote? Was he supposed to be blocked then as well?

Masked-Reaper 06-22-2022 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aggo (Post 1223194)
Mindless seems to be pretty fair tbh. If I went to him with that same complaint I assume he would delete a vote for me. That said, i don't fuck with that block button.

I will say the fact Kwon voted on the last battle no problem is a little sus. Was the block because of that vote? Was he supposed to be blocked then as well?

No he wasn’t blocked, he voted for him….

Aggo 06-22-2022 12:32 PM

I'm not sold on that 100% yet. I molded for a couple years here and am no stranger to shit not always working as intended and glitches occurring occasionally. I'll wait to hear some others weigh in before coming to a conclusion.

Masked-Reaper 06-22-2022 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aggo (Post 1223196)
I'm not sold on that 100% yet. I molded for a couple years here and am no stranger to shit not always working as intended and glitches occurring occasionally. I'll wait to hear some others weigh in before coming to a conclusion.

Now Kwons VP been lowered too….

Aggo 06-22-2022 12:48 PM

Was it?

Row 06-22-2022 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masked-Reaper (Post 1223192)
Tourney battle with Odin, Kwons vote gets deleted despite being well explained … reason “he was meant to be blocked”…..

Are you sure ??

Lockhart 06-22-2022 12:53 PM

I mean penetration is usually meant to be blocked if it’s unwanted.

Masked-Reaper 06-22-2022 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockhart (Post 1223200)
I mean penetration is usually meant to be blocked if it’s unwanted.

Lmao

PENetrateUnoW 06-22-2022 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockhart (Post 1223200)
I mean penetration is usually meant to be blocked if it’s unwanted.

Lmao classic

Masked-Reaper 06-22-2022 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Row (Post 1223199)
Are you sure ??

Yea that’s what Mindless said. Vote is well explained so no other reason??

Row 06-22-2022 12:57 PM

aight well everyone who voted against me last round was meant to be blocked

PENetrateUnoW 06-22-2022 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockhart (Post 1223200)
I mean penetration is usually meant to be blocked if it’s unwanted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Row (Post 1223204)
aight well everyone who voted against me last round was meant to be blocked

Lmao :hanky::hanky::hanky:

Masked-Reaper 06-22-2022 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Row (Post 1223204)
aight well everyone who voted against me last round was meant to be blocked

Exactly what I said to Mindless lmao

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@Odin

What happened with this shit bro?

Mindless 06-22-2022 05:18 PM

I'm on a break right now but I'll try to address what I can here.

If any one of you came to me and said, "I have this guy blocked. He isn't supposed to be able to vote on my battles" I would almost certainly remove said vote.

As far as why kw0n, who Odin says is blocked, was able to vote on said battle twice despite being blocked I don't have a definitive answer for that. You guys know as well as I do that the site bugs and glitches on the most random shit sometimes. Kw0n wasn't even the only blocked person who was able to vote on a tourney battle. My suspicion is that it being a tournament has something to do with as they are completely separate from the normal battle system. The fact that he was able to immediately vote again after I deleted said vote kind of proves that it wasn't Odin saying he had the guy blocked, the vote being deleted and oh he can't vote now. Because it happened twice I'm more inclined to believe he was blocked the whole time.

If it were up to me blocking would apply to everything BUT battles since people voting in a bad manner is a moderator and above issue. Not a user issue. That's just my opinion though.

Kwon's VP has NOT been changed. So that can be thrown right out.

Masked-Reaper 06-22-2022 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindless (Post 1223210)
I'm on a break right now but I'll try to address what I can here.

If any one of you came to me and said, "I have this guy blocked. He isn't supposed to be able to vote on my battles" I would almost certainly remove said vote.

As far as why kw0n, who Odin says is blocked, was able to vote on said battle twice despite being blocked I don't have a definitive answer for that. You guys know as well as I do that the site bugs and glitches on the most random shit sometimes. Kw0n wasn't even the only blocked person who was able to vote on a tourney battle. My suspicion is that it being a tournament has something to do with as they are completely separate from the normal battle system. The fact that he was able to immediately vote again after I deleted said vote kind of proves that it wasn't Odin saying he had the guy blocked, the vote being deleted and oh he can't vote now. Because it happened twice I'm more inclined to believe he was blocked the whole time.

If it were up to me blocking would apply to everything BUT battles since people voting in a bad manner is a moderator and above issue. Not a user issue. That's just my opinion though.

Kwon's VP has NOT been changed. So that can be thrown right out.



Thanks for the explanation. But explain this to me….

If Kwon meant to be blocked and votes not counting, why did the votes from Kwon in Odins last 2 tourney battles FOR him not get deleted too? But the one AGAINST him was deleted?

RhymeSmoke 06-22-2022 09:01 PM

Tournaments are fugazi af...and I ain't talkin about my shit. My battles stay gettin manipulated but it's funny af to see it happen all over. The whole shit in general is like WWE. Kats are blind af...

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As far as Odin blockin users and not being able to block him...AND him voting on Kat's battles that he blocks, is basically some sucker shit. His answer to me was "because I can"..Can't really say much to that, because it is true. He can and does whatever tf he wants, shady or not. And he's right he can do whatever ..only thing is, he acts like he don't do shady af shit and straight pussy shit! Which is the worst type of kat you want runnin shit...but it is what it is right?

Mindless 06-23-2022 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masked-Reaper (Post 1223211)
Thanks for the explanation. But explain this to me….

If Kwon meant to be blocked and votes not counting, why did the votes from Kwon in Odins last 2 tourney battles FOR him not get deleted too? But the one AGAINST him was deleted?


I don't have an answer for you other than they weren't reported on those battles.


I can say that deleting those votes would not have affected the outcome of those battles in either way. Honestly, I don't believe that the vote in question was going to have any affect on the battle at hand either. What we're talking about here is a 2 point difference. Now, I do understand your point of view entirely. It certainly doesn't look great but I don't really think there was anything nefarious going on with the removal request. That's just my opinion though.

NOBLE 06-23-2022 08:47 PM

I believe there's a limit to how many users a person can block. I can't remember the exact number, but I think it's 20 or something like that. So if you already have 20 people on your ignore list, every new person you block after that will still be able to vote on your battles, read your forum comments, etc. It doesn't necessarily mean the site is glitching. You might just need to unblock some other people first so the new people can actually be blocked. I'm not saying that's what's going on here....just an observation.

With that being said, there's a reason why a limit was put in place in terms of how many people can be blocked. I hope we're ruling out the possibility that a person may have already reached their block limit before removing votes from people who are "supposed to be blocked". Otherwise, we would simply be helping people circumvent said limits.

Aggo 06-23-2022 09:07 PM

20 blocks is pretty much the ability to block every active member on the site.

NOBLE 06-23-2022 11:14 PM

20 might have made sense when the site was way more active. These days, I don't think people should be allowed to block more than 5 members at a time. The way things are set up, it seems like you can block an unlimited amount of people, but you really can't. It allows you to add as many people as you want to your ignore list, but once a certain amount is reached, any new person you block can still vote on your drops. I remember going through it with a few members when I was staff. People complaining that folks they have blocked are still able to vote on their shit. I would ask them how many people they have on their ignore list, and the only remedy would be for them to unblock some people so the new blocks can actually be effective.
They should lower the block limit and also create a log for staff to be able to see exactly who is on a user's ignore list. It would look similar to this one which shows the most blocked members (https://www.letsbeef.com/haters.php)

Mindless 06-23-2022 11:52 PM

I forgot that haters list existed.


I'm in favor of unlimited blocks but it shouldn't apply to voting. If someone is following people around hate voting or voting badly it's something the staff should be handling imo.

Óðinn 06-26-2022 04:26 PM

Just seeing this cry-baby thread now.

The block feature sometimes doesn't work properly. Kwons blocked and as such shouldn't have been able to vote on our tourney battle.

You have Lock blocked from voting on our tourney battle (but voted against him on his) and he can't vote.

Again sometimes the block feature doesn't work properly, as such Kwons vote should be removed.

He was blocked before our battles opened.

Masked-Reaper 06-26-2022 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Óð𝖎𝖓𝖓 (Post 1223337)
Just seeing this cry-baby thread now.

The block feature sometimes doesn't work properly. Kwons blocked and as such shouldn't have been able to vote on our tourney battle.

You have Lock blocked from voting on our tourney battle (but voted against him on his) and he can't vote.

Again sometimes the block feature doesn't work properly, as such Kwons vote should be removed.

He was blocked before our battles opened.


When did u block Kwon originally?

Óðinn 06-26-2022 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masked-Reaper (Post 1223338)
When did u block Kwon originally?

Before round 3 started.

Edit: Kwon said in the chat-box that he votes for who he likes more, not their bars. While having some weird beef with me even though i was the one telling him to stay the last time he said he was leaving LB etc... an after saying that shit 'bout voting for who he likes more i was like: Yeah, You're getting blocked.


Should vote for the bars not the person you like better. :coolio:

ThaGauddyGawd 06-27-2022 08:53 AM

I will say this as a person with no horse in the race and I never block anyone hate vote or not or request votes removed on some shit like this for good and for bad. It is a really bad turnoff because a lot these new guys will think to just clique up and just vote battles no matter what. Why even have battlers who are block be in a tourney in the first place ? and its definitely not a broad paint brush so if it doesn't apply let it fly but I think we are at a impasse where both sides have valid points and complaints. So what is the solution at this point before it just further becomes a bigger problem.

Blue Hulk 06-28-2022 03:51 PM

We all know I don’t buddy vote. Nice try tho


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