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Preem 12-17-2020 10:45 AM

Examples of why the Moderation team needs to be replaced:
 
So there have been a bunch of complaints from numerous members about the moderation team not doing their job and not acting fair lately and their defense is that "it's just a bunch of snow flakes crying because they lost battles."

So let's expose some examples of how these complaints come about, it's not just members being upset because they lost battles so stop playing yourself.

LetsBeef Rules, Regulations and Policies:
https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125413

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Biting
(Infraction points: 30 Expires: Never)
NO BITING: Biting is the unauthorized copying of any other individual's work for personal use. It will NOT be tolerated in any way, shape or form. If your verse, in part or in whole is proved to have been bitten from another person, YOU WILL BE BANNED No questions asked! You will also receive an auto-loss on any battle you have bitten work on. If you cannot be original on this site, you do NOT need to be here. With thousands of members listening to our Battles daily, you will be exposed if you are using someone else’s lyrics.
LoccHart bites entire verse is a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521505

The entire verse was bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=470598

Great to waste all those bars on a verse just to get no votes and the battle closed due to biting.

Then kid claims it's just "trolling" so he shouldn't be banned.

Oops:

Quote:

Trolling
(Infraction points: 15 Expires: 3 months)
Blatantly posting antagonistic material just to get a reaction from other users is considered trolling.
https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images...28/324/4a4.gif

Members complain, no action is taken. Moderator team constantly bans members for even "swaying" a vote in a battle yet this kid bites entire verses and laughs about it.

Hmmm... but it's just snow flakes complaining right?

Oh wait.. LoccHart doesn't need to write bars anymore.

LoccHart bites another verse in a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521981

Entire verse bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521461

And this is just in a span of a couple of weeks.

According to the official rules this would be 90 infraction points and "YOU WILL BE BANNED No questions asked!"

Yet LoccHart laughs while recently Manhattan just banned RhymeSmoke for:

Quote:

Multiple Accounts/Voting for Self
(Infraction points: 30 Expires: 6 months)
Users may not use Multiple accounts to vote on their own battles. Any individual doing so will have all multi accounts permanently banned.
Shit like this is the reason a lot of members are calling for this mod team to be removed and replaced. They only enforce the rules on members who are not part of the dick riders club. The rest of them are free to run around and bite verses, sway votes, hate vote, use multies, troll and whatever else. Then if anyone complains about the blatant disregard for rule enforcement they are just "snow flakes crying about losing battles".


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Mods are here to moderate the site. Not to moderate snow flake-members emotional state.
If your job is to "moderate the site" then why are you not doing it?

Skitt_Blazin 12-17-2020 11:48 AM

We appreciate the concern and looking into the facts of the accusations. We will make our determination collectively as a staff upon review.

Rowdy 12-17-2020 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skitt_Blazin (Post 1212170)
We appreciate the concern and looking into the facts of the accusations. We will make our determination collectively as a staff upon review.

Lmfao no we not

The Saaxxx Baba 12-17-2020 12:39 PM

so even the accident verse was copied from one of yung slang's battle itself :|

Letum 12-17-2020 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Yung Slang (Post 1212167)
"snow flakes crying about losing battles".



Must suck being you :high:

Have you tried a snickers?

Preem 12-17-2020 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1212175)
Must suck being you :high:

Have you tried a snickers?

Nah I don't consume sugar and I don't bite my rhymes either. If I lose I lose fair game but If I clearly win a battle and lose due to fuckery I call it out as anyone should. If kids bite rhymes, troll, hate vote or whatever else I call them out simple as that.

Letum 12-17-2020 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Slang (Post 1212176)
Nah I don't consume sugar and I don't bite my rhymes either. If I lose I lose fair game but If I clearly win a battle and lose due to fuckery I call it out as anyone should. If kids bite rhymes, troll, hate vote or whatever else I call them out simple as that.

Miss me with that shit.

That argument was DOA the second you trolled Loch in the 16 :monkey:

You at a circus crying about clowns. :high:

Preem 12-17-2020 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1212177)
Miss me with that shit.

That argument was DOA the second you trolled Loch in the 16 :monkey:

You at a circus crying about clowns. :high:

Are you dense or something? How did I "troll loch"?

Letum 12-17-2020 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Slang (Post 1212178)
Are you dense or something? How did I "troll loch"?

"poop come out da booty hole"


I rest my case

Preem 12-17-2020 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1212179)
"poop come out da booty hole"


I rest my case

ROFL... bruh are you really that stupid? He bit the entire verse, I literally linked it above.

Letum 12-17-2020 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Slang (Post 1212180)
ROFL... bruh are you really that stupid? He bit the entire verse, I literally linked it above.

Bwahaaa damn yo *back peddels* yeah I thought this was the same ol shit. I concede

Circus statement remains truer than ever

Locchart 12-17-2020 03:29 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @Yung Slang

---------- Post added at 03:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:28 PM ----------

I’m always gonna be here, little homie. You’re ass and can’t take a joke.

Preem 12-17-2020 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locchart (Post 1212183)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @Yung Slang

---------- Post added at 03:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:28 PM ----------

I’m always gonna be here, little homie. You’re ass and can’t take a joke.

Thanks for proving my point, ROFL. You dick riders can do whatever you want and not get banned. Idiot.

Sean Griffey 12-17-2020 03:55 PM

Never thought I’d see the day that Lockhart gets banned for biting. Damn.

Kiwi Peewee 12-17-2020 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Slang (Post 1212167)
So there have been a bunch of complaints from numerous members about the moderation team not doing their job and not acting fair lately and their defense is that "it's just a bunch of snow flakes crying because they lost battles."

So let's expose some examples of how these complaints come about, it's not just members being upset because they lost battles so stop playing yourself.

LetsBeef Rules, Regulations and Policies:
https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125413



LoccHart bites entire verse is a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521505

The entire verse was bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=470598

Great to waste all those bars on a verse just to get no votes and the battle closed due to biting.

Then kid claims it's just "trolling" so he shouldn't be banned.

Oops:



https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images...28/324/4a4.gif

Members complain, no action is taken. Moderator team constantly bans members for even "swaying" a vote in a battle yet this kid bites entire verses and laughs about it.

Action was taken. Lockhart was given an infraction for biting, but not enough to trigger a ban. This is because mods are encouraged to use discretion in deciding how many infraction points to give for a verse. Lock’s first offence was an obvious joke where he told people about it before anyone noticed, so he received fewer infraction points than the standard 30.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Slang
Hmmm... but it's just snow flakes complaining right?

Oh wait.. LoccHart doesn't need to write bars anymore.

LoccHart bites another verse in a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521981

Entire verse bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521461

And this is just in a span of a couple of weeks.

According to the official rules this would be 90 infraction points and "YOU WILL BE BANNED No questions asked!"

Biting infractions require a discussion amongst the whole staff team before action is taken, which is why it took a while for Lock to be punished for this. The second offence was much more serious than the first, because he’d previously been warned not to do it again, so he received more infraction points than the standard 30. This led to a 1-month ban.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Slang
Shit like this is the reason a lot of members are calling for this mod team to be removed and replaced. They only enforce the rules on members who are not part of the dick riders club. The rest of them are free to run around and bite verses, sway votes, hate vote, use multies, troll and whatever else. Then if anyone complains about the blatant disregard for rule enforcement they are just "snow flakes crying about losing battles".

If your job is to "moderate the site" then why are you not doing it?

Look to be honest, Odin needs to stop calling everybody snowflakes, but beyond that we are doing our jobs. Idk where the sway voting and hate voting shit’s coming from, but if there’s an example of it you want to report let me know and I’ll take a look. Using multis is perfectly within the rules as long as you don’t use them to self-vote or break any other rules. Biting and trolling have just been punished from Lock. If you have any real complaints to make I’d love to hear them.

Preem 12-17-2020 06:26 PM

I mean the rule on biting is written pretty clearly.

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NO BITING: It will NOT be tolerated in any way, shape or form, YOU WILL BE BANNED No questions asked!
So I'm not really sure how he got away with it the first time TBH.

ZulKarnain 12-17-2020 07:23 PM

they was gonna ban me for posting a picture of a person.. or a video of a dudes baby moms.. and him.. when i found out he was a cop.. i posted his resume ,on my old account.. but i seen people get doxxed and nothin happens.. they are the type to ban skizzo for some shit but still have free skizzo in their sigs.. very contradictory .. if you view my sig,.. this is a former mod.. talking about how he came back.. to be respected after all his bans,fuck xcal/hvk.. and anyone who comes from that Ilk

Kiwi Peewee 12-17-2020 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Slang (Post 1212196)
I mean the rule on biting is written pretty clearly.

So I'm not really sure how he got away with it the first time TBH.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZulKarnain (Post 1212199)
they was gonna ban me for posting a picture of a person.. or a video of a dudes baby moms.. and him.. when i found out he was a cop.. i posted his resume ,on my old account.. but i seen people get doxxed and nothin happens.. they are the type to ban skizzo for some shit but still have free skizzo in their sigs.. very contradictory .. if you view my sig,.. this is a former mod.. talking about how he came back.. to be respected after all his bans,fuck xcal/hvk.. and anyone who comes from that Ilk

LB's been around for a long time, and there've been lots of different mod teams with different styles and priorities and ways of doing things. With respect to posting personal information, in recent years staff have taken a very hard line against this and any doxing or anything of the sort will be met with banning by the current team if it is malicious. I can't speak for any previous mod teams, I'm sure some of them had plenty of issues and probably made many mistakes (or were even downright corrupt), but that doesn't mean the blame transfers to current staff.

With regards to biting, the rules were written in like 2005 or something. The way it's written on the rule page isn't necessarily the way the rules are enforced in the present. The paragraph you keep quoting says "with thousands of members listening to our battles daily", which is obviously wrong and hasn't been the case since the 2000s. The rules page should be updated, but none of the active staff have the power to make changes to it. The current official policy on biting is that mods should confer and discuss the issue together then reach a group decision and give the appropriate infraction and/or ban. Unfortunately this is written in the staff forums, which regular users don't have access to, but if you ask other users that have been around the site for a few years I'm sure they can confirm staff usually take time to investigate a biting accusation and work out what the appropriate response is.

Preem 12-17-2020 09:11 PM

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es page should be updated, but none of the active staff have the power to make changes to it. The current official policy on biting is that mods should confer and discuss the issue together then reach a group decision and give the appropriate infraction and/or ban. Unfortunately this is written in the staff forums, which regular users don't have access to, but if you ask other users that have been around the site for a few years I'm sure they can confirm staff usually take time to investigate a biting accusation and work out what the appropriate response is.
Either someone bites or they don't... are you suggesting there are varying degrees of biting and each case should be considered differently? If so a hidden policy like that is why members are going to feel like the mods are picking and choosing who and how to enforce rules on.

Kiwi Peewee 12-17-2020 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Yung Slang (Post 1212202)
Either someone bites or they don't... are you suggesting there are varying degrees of biting and each case should be considered differently?

100% yes. Examples:
A) Someone bites many bars from live battles or other LB battles in multiple battles in serious competitions then tries to claim they are their own.
B) Some noob starts the first line of their first ever verse with a line from an Eminem song
C) Someone has two lines in a verse that are very similar to lines from a live battle, but it’s unclear whether it’s their own work
D) Someone copy-pastes a whole verse verbatim but never tries to claim it as their own and explicitly tells people what they’re doing before, during and after doing it

These four examples are all very different, and reacting in exactly the same way to all of them means you end up either coming down way too hard on confused noobs and scaring them off the site, or letting serial biters get away with shit they shouldn’t. That’s why we have mod discretion.

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If so a hidden policy like that is why members are going to feel like the mods are picking and choosing who and how to enforce rules on.
It’s not an intentionally hidden policy, though it should definitely be more clearly displayed. But again, the rules pages aren’t something the mods can alter.

Preem 12-17-2020 10:11 PM

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D) Someone copy-pastes a whole verse verbatim but never tries to claim it as their own and explicitly tells people what they’re doing before, during and after doing it
This just sounds like you making excuses for Locchart now. He doesn't start the battle by saying "I bit this entire verse" anyone reading it would assume they are his bars, that's why people are voting for him and saying how funny the rhymes are etc... "never claiming them as their own" is ridiculous when you literally post the verse as your own in a ranked battle. Anyone replying to the blind open would also have no idea until they waste all their bars for the battle to get closed without votes.

By this logic anyone could break any rule and when they get caught just claim it was a "joke".

I think the original rules that are posted make a lot more sense and leave a lot less room for bias interpretation. Maybe that's why it's setup so it can't be changed.

mister jon flako 12-17-2020 10:37 PM

You won already.. don't bite the bait cause that's what's you doing

Óðinn 12-18-2020 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee (Post 1212190)
Look to be honest, Odin needs to stop calling everybody snowflakes,

Not really. I mean, the irony of these new dudes. Putting on the tough act/persona everywhere yet everywhere they go they're crying over something... I'll help any member cross the street safely, i just won't hold their hands in doing so. :high:

Letum 12-18-2020 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odin (Post 1212207)
Not really. I mean, the irony of these new dudes. Putting on the tough act/persona everywhere yet everywhere they go they're crying over something... I'll help any member cross the street safely, i just won't hold their hands in doing so. :high:

I agree. This is not a safe space fuck your feelings and yours and yours etc.

Kiwi Peewee 12-18-2020 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odin (Post 1212207)
Not really. I mean, the irony of these new dudes. Putting on the tough act/persona everywhere yet everywhere they go they're crying over something... I'll help any member cross the street safely, i just won't hold their hands in doing so. :high:

I meant more that you need more diversity in your insults lol. Seeing "snowflakes" everywhere makes me feel like I'm having an argument with my boomer uncle is all I'm saying :D :D :D

J Gygax 12-18-2020 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee (Post 1212209)
I meant more that you need more diversity in your insults lol. Seeing "snowflakes" everywhere makes me feel like I'm having an argument with my boomer uncle is all I'm saying :D :D :D

Stop picking on this old man, he can't help his age!

EtH 12-18-2020 02:42 AM

If i did what Lock did Id be permabanned.

Locchart 12-18-2020 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Champion EtH (Post 1212212)
If i did what Lock did Id have my account deleted by Pugz.

FIFY.

EtH 12-18-2020 02:52 AM

I meant more literally. I'm still one infraction point from auto permaban. I considered doing it for the joke but I don't have the energy haha

Sean Griffey 12-18-2020 09:51 AM

That was the fastest ban-lift in Letsbeef history lol

Bnas 12-18-2020 11:09 AM

Lockhart, 2FUEL and the suicidal young bol' himself, Punk ass, should all be demodded. I love when these threads come to light. The fuckery has ruined this website from these three lazy ass hoes. The site will never be good again until we have unbiased mods who don't favour each other and let each other get away with all they dick sucking shit


Punk was gonna kill himself back in 2017, why didn't he we all ask???

---------- Post added at 11:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:56 AM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Slang (Post 1212167)
So there have been a bunch of complaints from numerous members about the moderation team not doing their job and not acting fair lately and their defense is that "it's just a bunch of snow flakes crying because they lost battles."

So let's expose some examples of how these complaints come about, it's not just members being upset because they lost battles so stop playing yourself.

LetsBeef Rules, Regulations and Policies:
https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125413



LoccHart bites entire verse is a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521505

The entire verse was bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=470598

Great to waste all those bars on a verse just to get no votes and the battle closed due to biting.

Then kid claims it's just "trolling" so he shouldn't be banned.

Oops:



https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images...28/324/4a4.gif

Members complain, no action is taken. Moderator team constantly bans members for even "swaying" a vote in a battle yet this kid bites entire verses and laughs about it.

Hmmm... but it's just snow flakes complaining right?

Oh wait.. LoccHart doesn't need to write bars anymore.

LoccHart bites another verse in a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521981

Entire verse bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521461

And this is just in a span of a couple of weeks.

According to the official rules this would be 90 infraction points and "YOU WILL BE BANNED No questions asked!"

Yet LoccHart laughs while recently Manhattan just banned RhymeSmoke for:



Shit like this is the reason a lot of members are calling for this mod team to be removed and replaced. They only enforce the rules on members who are not part of the dick riders club. The rest of them are free to run around and bite verses, sway votes, hate vote, use multies, troll and whatever else. Then if anyone complains about the blatant disregard for rule enforcement they are just "snow flakes crying about losing battles".




If your job is to "moderate the site" then why are you not doing it?



PM me I'm talking to Pugz right now thru email and he's furious at this shit

---------- Post added at 11:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:01 AM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yung Slang (Post 1212167)
So there have been a bunch of complaints from numerous members about the moderation team not doing their job and not acting fair lately and their defense is that "it's just a bunch of snow flakes crying because they lost battles."

So let's expose some examples of how these complaints come about, it's not just members being upset because they lost battles so stop playing yourself.

LetsBeef Rules, Regulations and Policies:
https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125413



LoccHart bites entire verse is a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521505

The entire verse was bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=470598

Great to waste all those bars on a verse just to get no votes and the battle closed due to biting.

Then kid claims it's just "trolling" so he shouldn't be banned.

Oops:



https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images...28/324/4a4.gif

Members complain, no action is taken. Moderator team constantly bans members for even "swaying" a vote in a battle yet this kid bites entire verses and laughs about it.

Hmmm... but it's just snow flakes complaining right?

Oh wait.. LoccHart doesn't need to write bars anymore.

LoccHart bites another verse in a ranked battle:
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521981

Entire verse bitten from this battle: https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521461

And this is just in a span of a couple of weeks.

According to the official rules this would be 90 infraction points and "YOU WILL BE BANNED No questions asked!"

Yet LoccHart laughs while recently Manhattan just banned RhymeSmoke for:



Shit like this is the reason a lot of members are calling for this mod team to be removed and replaced. They only enforce the rules on members who are not part of the dick riders club. The rest of them are free to run around and bite verses, sway votes, hate vote, use multies, troll and whatever else. Then if anyone complains about the blatant disregard for rule enforcement they are just "snow flakes crying about losing battles".




If your job is to "moderate the site" then why are you not doing it?


A little update for you. Noone else will be banned unless it's any of the coward moderators. X is on his way back to deal with Cockhart and turn his two biting battles to autolosses. He is highly confuses why no other moderator has yet to discipline Cockhart and change these battles around. More coming soon, again don't be afraid of these dudes banning you, I'm in contact with both admins right now thru email that way your not getting banned from them talking thru the site

Edgeworth 12-18-2020 11:42 AM

LMAO^

Preem 12-18-2020 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bnas (Post 1212223)
Lockhart, 2FUEL and the suicidal young bol' himself, Punk ass, should all be demodded. I love when these threads come to light. The fuckery has ruined this website from these three lazy ass hoes. The site will never be good again until we have unbiased mods who don't favour each other and let each other get away with all they dick sucking shit


Punk was gonna kill himself back in 2017, why didn't he we all ask???

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PM me I'm talking to Pugz right now thru email and he's furious at this shit

---------- Post added at 11:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:01 AM ----------




A little update for you. Noone else will be banned unless it's any of the coward moderators. X is on his way back to deal with Cockhart and turn his two biting battles to autolosses. He is highly confuses why no other moderator has yet to discipline Cockhart and change these battles around. More coming soon, again don't be afraid of these dudes banning you, I'm in contact with both admins right now thru email that way your not getting banned from them talking thru the site

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Rowdy 12-18-2020 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bnas (Post 1212223)
PM me I'm talking to Pugz right now thru email and he's furious at this shit

this part here is so.....LMAO

Bnas 12-18-2020 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rowdy Punk (Post 1212233)
this part here is so.....LMAO

#MentalHealthAwareness #Suicideaprevantion #PunkSuicidal #OffYaSelfBabyBoy

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This battle never should have made it 2 days without having Lockhart's votes deleted and it being an auto loss. Now will one of you faggot ass mods do your job and make this an autoloss and ban the fucking pussy


"You've done nothing but cheat". "You should be perma banned"


Stfu and do it then or stop your fucking suicidal bitching and do your mother fucking job



https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=521981

Rowdy 12-18-2020 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bnas (Post 1212234)
#MentalHealthAwareness #Suicideaprevantion #PunkSuicidal #OffYaSelfBabyBoy

lmao legit have no idea where this terrible angle is coming from but it has me rolling haha

Aggo 12-18-2020 12:43 PM

A bunch of old heads leave and Bnas feels like he can finally show himself in the threads again. Dude is LBs laughing stock for good reason. Hes also the only one to lose to Anas twice.

Bnas 12-18-2020 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aggo (Post 1212237)
A bunch of old heads leave and Bnas feels like he can finally show himself in the threads again. Dude is LBs laughing stock for good reason. Hes also the only one to lose to Anas twice.

Faggot you don't know old heads. Old heads to you are 2015 - Present. Stfu you guys dick ride each other so much, I don't know what's more sickening, the dick riding or the fact that you guys dick ride this much when you've never met in person, hung out, slammed back a few beers. You guys are internet queers

Rowdy 12-18-2020 01:02 PM

^ where's the difference in your "idk what's more sickening"? lol

Manhattan 12-18-2020 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bnas (Post 1212239)
Faggot you don't know old heads. Old heads to you are 2015 - Present. Stfu you guys dick ride each other so much, I don't know what's more sickening, the dick riding or the fact that you guys dick ride this much when you've never met in person, hung out, slammed back a few beers. You guys are internet queers

The irony of YOU calling people faggots and queers is fucking hilarious.

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