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NOBLE 04-18-2020 01:49 AM

Unranked Arena (Remove or Merge)
 
Virtually no one other than absolute newcomers use the unranked arena. Virtually no one who goes looking for battles to vote on checks the unranked arena frequently. As a result, battles sometimes sit there for months. Don't believe me? Go to the unranked arena right now and you'll see there are battles still sitting open from the beginning of March. Since, as previously mentioned, it's mostly beginners who post there, that becomes their first impression of LetsBeef, a site where you might post your first battle and have to wait a month or two to get three votes and the battle closed.

I propose we should either get rid of the unranked arena, or merge it with the ranked arena. Getting rid of it would mean all battles will be ranked. Merging it means the option for unranked would still be available, but once the battle posts, it will show up in the ranked arena alongside ranked battles rather than being in a separate arena that people hardly check.

Doing this could potentially give us a boost in both battling and voting activity (about 15%) and may also help with new member retention, since they wouldn't be discouraged by the lack of votes.

Thoughts?

Esso 04-18-2020 01:53 AM

This came up a while ago iirc and nothing much came of it. The activity in that arena isn’t worth keeping it around.

Locchart 04-18-2020 01:54 AM

I say remove it entirely. Yeah it’s a good way for newcomers to practice, but it gets completely ignored more often than not and they’d possibly be more discouraged if they won the battle and see it doesn’t necessarily count on their record anyway. I, personally, never used the unranked arena even as a noob and I know plenty others who never did either because outside of practice it really doesn’t serve a purpose anymore.

REZN 04-18-2020 01:55 AM

I don't think it's necessarily fair to force new members into ranked battles. As, this also could have the capacity to drive them off. Especially when battling people who are ranked much higher than them. I voted for merge because of this.

Seul 04-18-2020 02:36 AM

In my entire time on the site, I have never seen the unranked section utilized to a degree in which would merit keeping it around.

I used to see battles that have been open in there for months cause no one has looked, or cares to do an unranked battle.

Get rid, imo. It's basically clutter.

Student 04-18-2020 02:40 AM

Get rid of them, I can confidently say nobody has ever taken them seriously even when I first joined the site.

Barzooka 04-18-2020 03:14 AM

The unranked arena serves well as practice grounds.

DiZzReSpEkT 04-18-2020 05:33 AM

I voted for merge. Ideally the best thing would be a complete rework, but we both know certain people won’t make this happen. Due to this, I believe either a complete removal or merge is necessary. However, I did not vote for a complete deletion due to the usefulness of the feature. If we look at the usage patterns, it’s mostly people who just made their account that made it, or people that have a slow learning curve.

If this were to be taken away, hypothetically the newcomers might feel pressured to be into the ranked league. However, the biggest thing about the unranked league is it gives featherweight to middleweight a chance to practice without falling down on the leagues or battling people that just joined.

However, people that have been here for more than 5 minutes know no one actually gives a fuck about the ranks since they mean absolutely n o t h i n g.

EtH 04-18-2020 07:20 AM

We all said remove last time but X disagree and we kept it.

Óðinn 04-18-2020 07:41 AM

I'd say instead of removing it, turn it into something... maybe a tag team section of something. Rather than taking away from the site, add to it bu turning that section into something useful/that'll be used. Might not be tag team, but something along the lines of another battle format...
:high:

RULE 04-18-2020 08:24 AM

REMOVE

Streetz Reloaded 04-18-2020 09:32 AM

Ranked battles only. Embrace the pressure and use it to become better.

Enfinite 04-18-2020 10:53 AM

Ranked arena barely even fucking matters, its just where we all chose to battle. The ranks literally don't hold any merit when the actual top on site aren't even active in the arena unless its qualifying season.

With that said, remove it.

NOBLE 04-18-2020 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2FUEL (Post 1205418)
I'd say instead of removing it, turn it into something... maybe a tag team section of something. Rather than taking away from the site, add to it bu turning that section into something useful/that'll be used. Might not be tag team, but something along the lines of another battle format...
:high:

I thought of turning it into a section for topical with it's own rankings if, for example, X adds the ability to upload pictures into battles so people know which image the topical is based on. However, I think it would still go as unused as it is now since the interest in topicals has never really grown beyond a certain point. Same with Tag Team. How often do we do tag team battles now? Is it often enough to warrant its own arena?

korvus 04-18-2020 01:43 PM

or use it how it's supposed to be used. i mean, we're basically trying to throw away a blender just because we too lazy to make our own smoothies.

force new members to exclusively use unranked until they reach a certain elo cap.

The Saaxxx Baba 04-18-2020 02:28 PM

i did say restrict all multis to unranked arenas only

Rowdy 04-18-2020 02:40 PM

Put it in the dumpster

ZulKarnain 04-19-2020 09:01 AM

i used it before a while back, it was Ok sparring, i voted for nothing or merge..people with "weight" or "experience" don't use it for the connotations that come with Unranked battles,..but in reality,it could/should be used as normal.
Just used some stuff i would've used in a cypher,..and directed a few lines at the opp,..or keyed, just cuz..
It could really be a place for crew members to actually Spar with each other and vote on those battles while they can't in ranked..Purely for bragging right's where as ranked.. the 100-0, hits different,you won't get a flame,and your record,won't be damaged/enhanced ..in unranked..

EtH 04-19-2020 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOBLE (Post 1205436)
I thought of turning it into a section for topical with it's own rankings if, for example, X adds the ability to upload pictures into battles so people know which image the topical is based on. However, I think it would still go as unused as it is now since the interest in topicals has never really grown beyond a certain point. Same with Tag Team. How often do we do tag team battles now? Is it often enough to warrant its own arena?

No, topicals were the most popular thing on the site. You didn't understand how popular they were ofd-site ans consistently tried to hold me back because you didn't believe they were big enough for awards and usertitles.

NOBLE 04-19-2020 11:29 AM

I never held you back. I just didn't add ALL the awards you wanted, and you wanted to add several usertitles and I said no because people complained there were too many. Yea, topicals are trendy from time to time, but I'm talking about perennial interest. It's virtually non-existent. How many topical battles have been dropped in the last year?

EtH 04-19-2020 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NOBLE (Post 1205498)
I never held you back. I just didn't add ALL the awards you wanted, and you wanted to add several usertitles and I said no because people complained there were too many. Yea, topicals are trendy from time to time, but I'm talking about perennial interest. It's virtually non-existent. How many topical battles have been dropped in the last year?

Most of the site have never heard of a topical battle. How many were held in 2013?

NOBLE 04-19-2020 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1205499)
Most of the site have never heard of a topical battle. How many were held in 2013?

There were quite a bit, and you ran it well. I've never denied that. You got a green coat on that strength. Ask any current admin to help you build topicals. Let's see how far it gets. I'm not on staff to "hold you back" any longer.


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