LB King Poll
 

I want to preface this that no champions would ever be stripped of a title without opting in to a new scheme.



Option 1 -

Because the rules have been unclear which led to RULE and Rai being given titles without having 7 defences, we allow them to pick up from their current state. Rai would battle ILLoKWENT in what would count as his 7th defence, where as RULE would battle Bizzy in what would count as his 6th defence (but he’d then be the LBA champion and be defending next anyways). Rai and RULE would both need to agree to this.


Option 2 -

The LBA / LBT King titles are completely scrapped. The convoluded system and changes along the way may have ruined the legacy in some people’s minds and there have been suggestoons that we do without them.

Option 3 -

Only one LBA / LBT King remains at any one time. This is decided based on who has the longest streak of defences. So, for example, Rai and Esso would lose their LBT King titles and ILLoKWENT would hold onto his.

Option 4 -

The rules are reverted to 10 defences minimum, meaning every King other than ILLoKWENT are stripped of their title.

Option 5 -

Only one LBA / LBT King remains at any one time. This is decided based on who has the most victories in title matches ONLY.

Option 6 -

Yearly public poll to determine the kings.

Option 4 or Option 1.

Voted option 5.

voted option 6

Option 3.

This is going well lol

1 vote apeice lol

Option 3 with the possibility of facing the current king and battling for the title. (Once their streak is matched)

Just had this same idea with Edgeworth in IM's. Treat it as if you're overthrowing the King or something. Makes the title that much more prestigious.

than what's the freaking difference between an lbt title match and an lbt king title match. seems pointless by then.

Huge difference. Say the challenger loses to the current sitting King, they keep their title, but they start back at square one in terms of consecutive defenses to work their way back up. It's harsh, but it separates the men from the boys.

None of these. Also what's stupid is what if a LB_ King retires and leaves the site, is everyone supposed to wait for them to maybe come back?

True haha

I’m gonna say 3 with the stipulation that once you’ve matched the Kings consecutive defences streak, you have to beat the King. If you win you become the King. If you lose, the King can decide whether he wants the LBT/A title himself (and have to actively defend it) or allow you to keep it but knocks your streak right back to 0. Of course this means the King has to be active. Once someone’s matched his streak if he doesn’t defend his crown in the next LBT/A card, the event goes on as usual with the next contender up and if the LBT/A holder beats that contender, they become the new King.

No shows, if they were Standard scheduled title matches, must count. It’s not fair to the champion.

With "overthrowing the king", you guys are forgetting that the existing did his shit like 5-6 years ago. Someone could easily have been gone forever by then.
@Student nah if you are gone for two straight youre stripped.

I went option 1 because it doesnt fuck the entire system and simple patches over the mistakes of former leaders. I personally think its shit that Esso or whoever else is gonna get stripped of a permanent title cause we said "Nah change our mind".

Actually I just remembered this as well. Wasn’t part of Rai’s thing that Row cheated in that LBT title match meaning Rai really won, so he’s actually got over 7 consecutive defences now when marking the row battle as a win...? @Rieper @Student someone that would remember

There is no point in having multiple Kings of any sort, imo. There is only one King at any given time, so why is this any different? It's prob'ly confusing as shit to a new user to see both RULE & Seul rocking an LBA King title with no real context as to why two people have the same exact title with King in it. Make it to where it's only one person who holds that title and give the prestige back to it that it's supposed to have in the first place.

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Was that another battle where Row self-voted? Cause if so then yeah you're right he does deserve the title. He was right at 6 defenses when he battled Row.

With this being said, my original point still stands. There should only be one King at any given time in both formats.

In the case that the king is inactive / retired they just lose it once their streak is bested. Gives some incentive to stick around and be active every now and then for someone like ILL or someone that might have the title in the future.

I agree with the tag. Option 7?

Also I want to reiterate that unless Seul, RULE, Esso, Rai and ILL are okay with whatever the changes are, then nothing happens. They were given permanent titles, end of. If they are unanimously okay with a change, then it changes.
@Noir yeah I'd be cool with that, although not as a solid rule. It'd be more something we build up like I'd hit up the existing champ and say "Free title shot if you wanna defend LBT King".

Some of these seem very long winded lol

The king is the best, ever imo.

There should be one.

IT should be the person with the most title match wins OR the long win streak with the belt.

imo lol

You're just specifically applying that meaning though. Right now it works like boxing Commonwealth title. After X amount of defences you get to keep it

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@esso @Seul @Malishus @Rai

Then maybe the wording should be changed too.

LBA/T Legend looks better anyway

Yeah I'd say that'll definitely be the next thread.

Theoretically, if option 1 happened, would you be down to restart from 5 defences and battling Biz next?

To be honest i disagree with that cuz i lost to Biz. So even if i beat him my streak was techincally ended before 7 anyway.

Nah, one king, that's it. Fuck who has a perma title now, there's plenty of shit that's gone down on this site that people aren't ok with. If you can't agree with the standard that the title was created around, you don't deserve it.

The reason I feel thats untair to you and Rai is due to lack of clarity in the rules. So sure, you had incentive to win, but hell Rai might have been like "Wtf would I try hard? Ive already won the King title" you know?

Lmao, it's not fair to ILLo to have all these people running around with his title that didn't do anything close to what he did.

You can't strip someone of a permanent title. Its permanent. Its in the name.

They'd have to all agree and relinquish them.

But, you can though. By simply... stripping them of the title.

"Sir, I'm afraid you're permanently disabled. Unless you try and walk. Then you're probably not".

Permanent has a literal definition. If its not permanent, fuck the title its worthless anyways.

Option 7: Obtain the LBT Legend title after 7 title defenses, no-shows counting.



This means everyone who currently has the LBA/LBT King title would keep their title and battlers like Celsius & Reiper have a chance of winning it without having to completely start over from 0.

So two entirely separate titles with different meanings. Call me crazy but Im not mad on the idea haha

Im gonna make one last comment on this cuz we keep getting sidetracked.

When i created the LBT & LBA, there was no plan for an additional title but Illo had that get run and one was made.
@ILLoKWENT was told 10 wins in a row and he'd get it. He did.
@Esso was told 7 in a row. He did.
@Rai was told 7 wins period. He did.
@Seul was told 7 in a row. He did.
@RULE was told 7 wins period. He did.


We can all agree or disagree over whos run was the best, the worst etc etc.

We (the kings) did what the LBA / LBT hosts told us to do.

And while me and @Seul can disagree over each others claims, we did what we were told.

I dont like the number of no shows you had, you dont like the speed of defences i had. But we didnt choose we just won based on what we were told.

Same applies for the 3 text guys.

Honestly at this point i just a concrete rule so we can put this to bed and i'll gladly lose the title if it benefits the site.

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You're one person though RULE. If we lost 4 others i wouldn't call it good for the site.

I meant the LBA/LBT Kings would keep their titles / change over to LBA/LBT Legend since people like that term better, not 2 separate titles.

I agree with this.

Not for nothing but the GC run/lbt defense run doesnt seem like something that should have been allowed. Not sure how others feel but if it's cool then next time I'm in a tourney make that an LBA battle as well please.

Definitely agree with nobody losing their title.


Plus if you want to make the argument there should only be 1 King why are there so many "Grand" Champions?

I honestly don’t care what happens...it’s words underneath my screen name.But there’s one published set of rules regarding Kings if you search this site. One. I don’t know what the hell yall did to get so confused about this title.

You agree with RULE's overview of the situation but no actual opinion on a solution? Haha

That shit doesn't matter when they shouldn't have the title to begin with.