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TKtheGREAT 01-22-2020 05:40 PM

Broken multies?
 
If ya feelin-low needin-dough...im like a GENIE WIT REQUESTS but pay that back, or this tech hit-flesh & that'll REALLY LEAVE a MESS cuz once its “S-Owe-S” ya best-beLIEVE HES in “DISTRESS”!


"ACTION? -ASK YA WHORE "Pull Up When Ya At Work"... she fly outta bed -starts DASHIN DOWN a FLOOR im wavin' my boxers like a PRACTICED MATADOR!..Pipe-it, now she a "Porch-Pirate" way she "Take The PACKAGE AT THE DOOR""

Do these have broken multies?

EtH 01-22-2020 05:41 PM

No, but DOWN is way off from ASK, MAT and AT.

TKtheGREAT 01-22-2020 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1195319)
No, but DOWN is way off from ASK, MAT and AT.

Why not? Because I'm supposed to assume the "a"s are emphasized?

EtH 01-22-2020 05:45 PM

Because they don't rhyme in any way? DOWN is too strong a word for this.

Same with the LEAVE in the first rhyme. That one goes LEAVE - IN - WIT. Leave is the word that's too powerful there to not have a rhyme.

RULE 01-22-2020 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonganKidd (Post 1195316)
If ya feelin-low needin-dough...im like a GENIE WIT REQUESTS but pay that back, or this tech hit-flesh & that'll REALLY LEAVE a MESS cuz once its “S-Owe-S” ya best-beLIEVE HES in “DISTRESS”!


"ACTION? -ASK YA WHORE "Pull Up When Ya At Work"... she fly outta bed -starts DASHIN DOWN a FLOOR im wavin' my boxers like a PRACTICED MATADOR!..Pipe-it, now she a "Porch-Pirate" way she "Take The PACKAGE AT THE DOOR""

Do these have broken multies?

Nope no broken multis on either.

TKtheGREAT 01-22-2020 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1195323)
Because they don't rhyme in any way? DOWN is too strong a word for this.

Same with the LEAVE in the first rhyme. That one goes LEAVE - IN - WIT. Leave is the word that's too powerful there to not have a rhyme.

I didnt mean for the "down" rhymes scheme...its not the point of this, I was askin about the lowercase "a"s.

Locchart 01-22-2020 05:49 PM

Neither one of those bars have broken multis.

EtH 01-22-2020 05:50 PM

Personally I find lower casing shit like that to be really annoying.

Locchart 01-22-2020 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonganKidd (Post 1195325)
I didnt mean for the "down" rhymes scheme...its not the point of this, I was askin about the lowercase "a"s.

The lowercase a's are still a part of the rhyme scheme, whether they're capped or not.

TKtheGREAT 01-22-2020 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1195324)
Nope no broken multis on either.

Even when it goes from

GENIE WIT REQUESTS = REALLY LEAVE , MESS = LIEVE HES, “DISTRESS”

The way that looks to me is 5, 4, 5, even though I can assume the "a"s and "in" are emphasized, and apart of the scheme. They must be capped to show placement and emphasis for a smoother read.

EtH 01-22-2020 05:56 PM

They don't have to be capped. I think they CAN have an effect on flow, and it is quite annoying to look at which again can have an effect, but at when they're in the middle like that they are okay to rhyme along with.

A multi starts with the first syllable and ends with the last syllable. Everything inside that is part of the multi, whether capped or not.

RULE 01-22-2020 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonganKidd (Post 1195331)
Even when it goes from

GENIE WIT REQUESTS = REALLY LEAVE , MESS = LIEVE HES, “DISTRESS”

The way that looks to me is 5, 4, 5, even though I can assume the "a"s and "in" are emphasized, and apart of the scheme. They must be capped to show placement and emphasis for a smoother read.

nah i would have them lower case too. It just signifies the dip in cadence.

Locchart 01-22-2020 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonganKidd (Post 1195331)
Even when it goes from

GENIE WIT REQUESTS = REALLY LEAVE , MESS = LIEVE HES, “DISTRESS”

The way that looks to me is 5, 4, 5, even though I can assume the "a"s and "in" are emphasized, and apart of the scheme. They must be capped to show placement and emphasis for a smoother read.

You're supposed to assume they're part of the scheme. Just because they're not capped in the middle of the scheme doesn't mean they disappear.

EtH 01-22-2020 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1195333)
nah i would have them lower case too. It just signifies the dip in cadence.

Really? It wouldn't effect my pronunciation at all.

RULE 01-22-2020 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1195335)
Really? It wouldn't effect my pronunciation at all.

Yeah if a filler syllable in a multi set is uncapped i assume the writer wants it pronouced less harshly so i dip the cadence a touch.

TKtheGREAT 01-22-2020 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rieper (Post 1195334)
You're supposed to assume they're part of the scheme. Just because they're not capped in the middle of the scheme doesn't mean they disappear.

But we see it all the time where people separate multies with non capped words.

Quote:

A multi starts with the first syllable and ends with the last syllable. Everything inside that is part of the multi, whether capped or not
I thought the multies gotta be crisp, you cant just throw just any syllable aligned words

Locchart 01-22-2020 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonganKidd (Post 1195338)
But we see it all the time where people separate multies with non capped words.



I thought the multies gotta be crisp, you cant just throw just any syllable aligned words

The syllable sounds are one thing (I think even Seul would say that rhyming isn't perfect by any stretch phonetically)

However, the syllable count is fine. The a and the other word being lowercase in the multi set doesn't change the syllable count. I hope that's not the confusion here.

TKtheGREAT 01-22-2020 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rieper (Post 1195342)
The syllable sounds are one thing (I think even Seul would say that rhyming isn't perfect by any stretch phonetically)

However, the syllable count is fine. The a and the other word being lowercase in the multi set doesn't change the syllable count. I hope that's not the confusion here.

That's kinda the point...at first glance, it looks like a broken multi, until you realize the small caps go with the capped multies, when we have several people that break multies up with non capped words all the time.
Just to put them back together.

2nd problem, it's part of my grading. I go through and read caps exclusively, after I read the verse, helps figure out if the multies are broken. And rhyming smoothly.

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Also the tutorial examples have ALL multi words capped.

https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140600

If we can just cut corners and bend what a multi is, what's the point of having a format...

REZN 01-22-2020 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonganKidd (Post 1195346)
That's kinda the point...at first glance, it looks like a broken multi, until you realize the small caps go with the capped multies, when we have several people that break multies up with non capped words all the time.
Just to put them back together.

2nd problem, it's part of my grading. I go through and read caps exclusively, after I read the verse, helps figure out if the multies are broken. And rhyming smoothly.

---------- Post added at 08:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:13 PM ----------

Also the tutorial examples have ALL multi words capped.

https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140600

If we can just cut corners and bend what a multi is, what's the point of having a format...

If I didn't cap any of my rhymes, would all of my multis be broken?

TKtheGREAT 01-22-2020 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REZN (Post 1195349)
If I didn't cap any of my rhymes, would all of my multis be broken?

We do fault people for not capping multies, we've been seeing that with a couple members and I think everyone agrees capping multies vs not capping them changes flow.

---------- Post added at 10:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 PM ----------

Like this battle.....https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_deta...n=tb&id=516432

TradeMarked 01-23-2020 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonganKidd (Post 1195316)
If ya feelin-low needin-dough...im like a GENIE WIT REQUESTS but pay that back, or this tech hit-flesh & that'll REALLY LEAVE a MESS cuz once its “S-Owe-S” ya best-beLIEVE HES in “DISTRESS”!


"ACTION? -ASK YA WHORE "Pull Up When Ya At Work"... she fly outta bed -starts DASHIN DOWN a FLOOR im wavin' my boxers like a PRACTICED MATADOR!..Pipe-it, now she a "Porch-Pirate" way she "Take The PACKAGE AT THE DOOR""

Do these have broken multies?

So much shit has changed since i first came bro. Those back in my day were considered broken. Now, as long as your syllables match up, they good. lol. I don't like that syllable shiit.

EtH 01-23-2020 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TradeMarked (Post 1195789)
So much shit has changed since i first came bro. Those back in my day were considered broken. Now, as long as your syllables match up, they good. lol. I don't like that syllable shiit.

No one said they're good or bad, they just said they're not broken.

TKtheGREAT 01-23-2020 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1195798)
No one said they're good or bad, they just said they're not broken.

I still dont see how...if the rule is..
You capitalize multies...and then he fails to do it....its broken. Because he failed to follow format that ended up with the syllables in his CAPPED multies being off....why cap any multies at all if you're just gonna do it like that??

EtH 01-23-2020 03:00 PM

It's not a rule. It's a guideline.

RULE 01-23-2020 03:01 PM

Simple version:

Broken Multi's = Wrong Syllable Count.

If you rap it out loud, you'll know.

1/

Manhattan 01-23-2020 03:15 PM

This^

I don't know what's so hard to grasp about this. Multiple threads being made about broken multis. If the multis in your rhyme scheme have the same syllable count...it's not broken. It's that simple. Format doesn't mean anything.

doesn't matter if he wrote the fucking bar like this

If ya feelin-low needin-dough...im like a GeNiE WiT ReQuEsTs but pay that back, or this tech hit-flesh & that'll ReaLLY LEaVE a MeSs cuz once its “S-Owe-S” ya best-beLiEvE HeS In “DiStReSS”!

TKtheGREAT 01-23-2020 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1195802)
Simple version:

Broken Multi's = Wrong Syllable Count.

If you rap it out loud, you'll know.

1/

Reading it out loud and inferencing isn't the problem....I even pointed out in the original battle, I knew where the multie was supposed to be capped. And STILL docked points for it.. because the syllables in the caps are not the same....you can say I'm lazy, but I'm just holding a higher tier rapper to the same standard everyone of you held me to, shooting me down in battles I should've won.. saying the multi count wasnt there when it was..so it's not like I'm treating him unfairly.....also, if a rappers takes a loss on a vote suck it up buttercup, I dont need a person telling me how to vote, when the rest of the group doesnt have a set standard...and that's evident from the constant format conversation threads...so if anyone has a problem with how im voting, it's not my fault, it's your guys for being so damn bipolar with how you set the standard...you think I just came off the street knowing wtf a multie is? Nope, you guys are the ones that laid that foundation....I'm not just going rogue, and now you're telling me I'm wrong, from what I learned from the people on this very site....there are no tutorials on "you dont have cap your multi if....."

Seul 01-24-2020 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1195336)
Yeah if a filler syllable in a multi set is uncapped i assume the writer wants it pronouced less harshly so i dip the cadence a touch.

This ^

---------- Post added at 12:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:51 AM ----------

Broken Multi means the syllable count is off, not if it's capped or not - na mean?

Example 1:

PACKING a GAT - 4
LAUGH IN the BACK - 4

Example 2:

PACKING a GAT - 4
LAUGH IN the BACKYARD - 5

Example 2 is broken, because example 1 has lower case in it, it is still the same syllable count.

Edgeworth 01-25-2020 12:32 AM

This thread is hilarious lol. The answer is NO.


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