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Noir 01-20-2020 02:18 PM

Why are we so strict on deadlines?
 
Is this site anywhere near professional? No.

Why are we treating deadlines like some asshole College professor that wants you to fail?

The amount of time we have to write quality lines is already little as is. (Considering people aren't premeditating shit)

People have nearly finished verses just going to waste because of this. Their opponents verse goes to waste because of this. And overall it just takes away from competition. No one likes having no show wins on a tourney run. People look at it as less deserved, same way we look at it with the LBT/LBA.

If someone needs a few hours extended, we should give it to them. Up to a whole day. People got lives and all types of other shit going on. Pretty sure Banks & stricc put off a tourney final for a whole month over real life shit.


This needs to change imo.

Punk 01-20-2020 02:19 PM

Why are people using the "fake personals" excuse to vote against you in a rap battle where you insult your opponent :)

EtH 01-20-2020 02:19 PM

Rules are rules. I for one am in favour of a hard deadline.

Noir 01-20-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Punk (Post 1194869)
Why are people using the "fake personals" excuse to vote against you in a rap battle where you insult your opponent :)

People on here are dumb

RULE 01-20-2020 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 1194868)
If someone needs a few hours extended, we should give it to them. Up to a whole day. .

So... a deadline then.

Subreal 01-20-2020 02:25 PM

because it holds the whole tournament up. I can understand if it is like an hour or something but not a whole day

Noir 01-20-2020 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1194870)
Rules are rules. I for one am in favour of a hard deadline.

This is a dumb rule. And there are other rules that aren't anywhere near as concrete making for inconsistency and an overall unprofessional feel, so why be so damn strict with this?

Live battlers get a week at least to write. If someone is feeling uninspired and or has shit going on and can't get a verse in until 24 hours later, I think we should let it slide. Maybe I'm on the more extreme end, but perhaps a lesser grace period than I'm recommending would be fair.

How late were you on posting?

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Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1194873)
So... a deadline then.

A somewhat fluid one, I guess you could say. Just basically recommending a grace period. Maybe up to two times in a tourney run or something.

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Originally Posted by Subreal (Post 1194874)
because it holds the whole tournament up. I can understand if it is like an hour or something but not a whole day

Why not a whole day?

Esso 01-20-2020 02:29 PM

As we just learned, a deadline can be missed as long as there’s communication and agreement. There has to be an initial deadline just to keep things orderly. As long as nobody’s getting DQ’d against the wishes of the other participant for something dumb, idk what the big deal is.

RULE 01-20-2020 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 1194875)
A somewhat fluid one, I guess you could say. Just basically recommending a grace period. Maybe up to two times in a tourney run or something.

This idea has potential but could be easily abused

Remember with the strict 3 days to post 3 days to vote deadline this GC is taking OVER a MONTH to complete.

& we're talking 16 lines. I wrote a 64 in 2 hours a few weeks ago. Y'all got 3 days from the round opening. You could be writing bars NOW for the next round.

EtH 01-20-2020 02:34 PM

Typically I allow it as long as ot doesn't have an effect on the battle. Like if you drop a no show verse last second the opponent can't drop a real one 6 hours later.

Shodan was about an hour late for Kiwi but shit like that's fine if the battle gets made.

Zezmeril 01-20-2020 02:37 PM

We aren't really strict on deadlines tho?

I didn't wanna compete in the GC at all but refused to no show.

Tongan answered late but it was accepted. So we aren't really that strict?

Barzooka 01-20-2020 03:22 PM

Nah fuck that because when I asked for an extension most of the time I got denied it which contributed to me saying fuck this shit to begin with and just becoming an exclusively freestyle rapper. People are going to complain about the website being ghetto and the question why shit is being enforced in an attempt to make it less ghetto and that's just beyond me. I actually plan on writing for this shit. My first two verses were just so fucking bullshit freestyles off the top that weren't even good lmao.

Punk 01-20-2020 03:25 PM

"Ghetto"

Sir it is Martin Luther King's Day you out your rabbit ass mind O_O

Barzooka 01-20-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Punk (Post 1194887)
"Ghetto"

Sir it is Martin Luther King's Day you out your rabbit ass mind O_O

Why, I am out of my mind! I 100% forgot about that shit dude wow!! LOL!

In that case grant these gentlemen a 24-hour extension please and thank you.

Noir 01-20-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barzxxka (Post 1194886)
Nah fuck that because when I asked for an extension most of the time I got denied it which contributed to me saying fuck this shit to begin with and just becoming an exclusively freestyle rapper. People are going to complain about the website being ghetto and the question why shit is being enforced in an attempt to make it less ghetto and that's just beyond me. I actually plan on writing for this shit. My first two verses were just so fucking bullshit freestyles off the top that weren't even good lmao.

You're missing the point and coming from a hurt, personal stance. No one wants this site to be a shit show, besides you from the sounds of it?

Celsius 01-20-2020 04:53 PM

Two hour grace period.

Barzooka 01-20-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 1194893)
You're missing the point and coming from a hurt, personal stance. No one wants this site to be a shit show, besides you from the sounds of it?

You're too late to speak for starters. Secondly, this would be considerably unfair to a lot of other dudes who had to rush for a deadline. But definitely refer to the my first sentence.

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But yeah I totally want the site to be a complete and utter shit show because of an emotional and biased opinion btw YIKES. Imagine that shit.

Kiwi Peewee 01-20-2020 06:27 PM

The problem with all of this is that you have to have a hard deadline at some point or there's no deadline at all. If there's a 2-hour grace period after the deadline, that's essentially extending the deadline by 2 hours. Because if someone posts 2 hours 30 minutes late, they're definitely just going to say "I was only 30 minutes after the deadline, it's no big deal really, I posted so just take the battle" so you end up with a precedent for a 2 and a half hour grace period, then when someone's 3 hours late you get the same thing and so on. I think it's a good idea if both battlers agree they want the battle to go ahead then it should; and for stuff like the LBT where its monthly then it doesn't really matter, but for tournaments with tight schedules I think deadlines are pretty important and should only be ignored if both battlers agree to let the battle go ahead, or if the late poster had communicated clearly with the tournament organiser before the deadline expired and sorted out a mutual extension.

Punk 01-20-2020 06:38 PM

One thing I've noticed about most no shows, they spend hella time posting to where it looks like they're not even busy for the first 2-3 days before the deadline. Then the day of posting, you barely even see them log in.

I tend to write late myself but that's by choice. My notepad is on my phone and I can write on the go. Even when I'm at work.

Barzooka 01-20-2020 06:39 PM

I mean me personally I just don't care atm because it's MLK day and I'm just smoking weed chilling. The fact that today is a Holiday should've been taken into consideration to begin with. Let these guys have time for themselves and their families then let him finish their writing.

Aggo 01-20-2020 06:48 PM

Actually makes sense to add some time if a deadline falls in a holiday weekend. It's what happened with me. Left right from work friday. Drove almost 4 hours. Spent the weekend with friends and drove home in a snowstorm on sunday. By the time I was home, even with a 5 hour extention i asked for in advance, I didnt have enough time to get it done.

Student 01-20-2020 07:08 PM

I agree with Noir on this, I know shit happens and ultimately I'd rather see the battles go down then to waste someone's bars, that's why I had 1 time extensions in the tournaments I hosted.

Noir 01-20-2020 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1194879)
This idea has potential but could be easily abused

Remember with the strict 3 days to post 3 days to vote deadline this GC is taking OVER a MONTH to complete.

& we're talking 16 lines. I wrote a 64 in 2 hours a few weeks ago. Y'all got 3 days from the round opening. You could be writing bars NOW for the next round.


I don't see how it could be abused really. It would just need to be requested 24 hours in advance of the deadline or something. Anyone could throw together a shit 16 just to show.. I'm sure we all wanna see the best out of each other in these tournament battles, not half hearted efforts to make a deadline. I couldn't even begin to count the amount of tourney battles, and even finals I've been disappointed in, probably due to people writing in a rush. And at the end of the day, we should all want the battle to go down rather than have tourney's riddled with petty no shows where the battler was actually around/active and could post with a lil extension.

EtH 01-21-2020 02:15 AM

Say you give a day grace period, you're essentially just saying the deadline is one day ahead. There's zero difference.

RULE 01-21-2020 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiwi Peewee (Post 1194903)
The problem with all of this is that you have to have a hard deadline at some point or there's no deadline at all. If there's a 2-hour grace period after the deadline, that's essentially extending the deadline by 2 hours. Because if someone posts 2 hours 30 minutes late, they're definitely just going to say "I was only 30 minutes after the deadline, it's no big deal really, I posted so just take the battle" so you end up with a precedent for a 2 and a half hour grace period, then when someone's 3 hours late you get the same thing and so on. I think it's a good idea if both battlers agree they want the battle to go ahead then it should; and for stuff like the LBT where its monthly then it doesn't really matter, but for tournaments with tight schedules I think deadlines are pretty important and should only be ignored if both battlers agree to let the battle go ahead, or if the late poster had communicated clearly with the tournament organiser before the deadline expired and sorted out a mutual extension.

Exactly

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1194924)
Say you give a day grace period, you're essentially just saying the deadline is one day ahead. There's zero difference.

Exactly


A tournament is a competition. Having a deadline makes it even to everyone. They all get the same time.

Kiwi Peewee 01-21-2020 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir (Post 1194910)
It would just need to be requested 24 hours in advance of the deadline or something.

You can already ask for extensions on the deadlines at the moment. I think these should be more accessible, and I think if something comes up unexpectedly and you let the tournament organiser know afterwards you should be able to submit your verse late because personal emergencies/whatever leading to a no-show in a battle both battlers were taking seriously is pointless you're right. But having a blanket grace period and making the deadlines irrelevant just voids the point of having them and then tournaments will take forever.

Shodan 01-21-2020 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1194880)
Typically I allow it as long as ot doesn't have an effect on the battle. Like if you drop a no show verse last second the opponent can't drop a real one 6 hours later.

Shodan was about an hour late for Kiwi but shit like that's fine if the battle gets made.

I'm pretty sure I actually wasn't though? Shit

EtH 01-21-2020 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Shodan (Post 1194927)
I'm pretty sure I actually wasn't though? Shit

You hit me up like 1am GMT to say you were posting and the original deadline was midnight GMT. Didnt matter the battle went up and it was good.

Edgeworth 01-21-2020 03:34 PM

I don’t think a “grace period” makes any sense. That’s just a new deadline, Lol.

At the end of the day, we all want battles to go down but at a certain point you can’t just hold up the whole tournament for a person/couple people. Obviously shit happens emergency wise so there’s obviously exceptions there but we can’t just go on extending tournament deadlines 1-2 days at the drop of a dime because someone was “busy”. It’s not fair to the opponent and not fair to the rest of the participants.


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