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Seul 12-29-2019 03:18 AM

Most Overrated Mainstream Artist?
 
I gotta' say it's Chance The Rapper. Dude's fucking whack, this ain't on no hater tip. I actually gave him a good hour of my time an' decided to take in some of his songs and I ain't impressed, like, even these new trap artists got a good little vibe to their songs, but this dude is flat out shit.

Who do you think is overrated? ...& autotune isn't a reason to hate on a dude, for those planning to name anyone due to that reason lmaooo @2FUEL i'm talking to you. xD.

Guts 12-29-2019 04:07 AM

lil yachty is garbage. i never liked 50 cent or snoop or any of those cats. idk. most radio rappers are garbage to me.

Seul 12-29-2019 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Guts (Post 1191074)
lil yachty is garbage. i never liked 50 cent or snoop or any of those cats. idk. most radio rappers are garbage to me.

Give "Get Rich Or Die Trying" a proper listen through, it should change your mind. (assuming you ain't listened to it in a while) that album bangs.

IIAM 12-29-2019 05:02 AM

Damn y’all think Snoop, 50, and Chance the Rapper are *Wack.
Wow
Well...
My list is a lil different.
To answer your question the most over rated artist imo (I’ll keep it in the same genre)

Are like the Yachty’s the Uzi’s, the Mustards, the Post Malone’s..

As a Rap fanatic to me they are overrated.
As a business man ii respect their management’s
Genius, but really with a couple million dollars and a smart manager any performing artist can hit the billboard 100 at least once

Wyldernez 12-29-2019 05:20 AM

Every wrapper is trash and belongs in the garbage. #SupportTheEnvironment

Nah but on the real the best rappers are Aussie rappers. Americans done dropped the ball, sorry guys.

Seul 12-29-2019 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by IIAM (Post 1191078)
Damn y’all think Snoop, 50, and Chance the Rapper are *Wack.
Wow
Well...
My list is a lil different.
To answer your question the most over rated artist imo (I’ll keep it in the same genre)

Are like the Yachty’s the Uzi’s, the Mustards, the Post Malone’s..

As a Rap fanatic to me they are overrated.
As a business man ii respect their management’s
Genius, but really with a couple million dollars and a smart manager any performing artist can hit the billboard 100 at least once

I think Snoop & 50 are dope, but yeah, I still believe Chance is whack.

In terms of Yachty, I agree he's whack, he did have a couple of good songs, but not enough to boost him to the stardom he's achieved. Lil Uzi I think is decent, but I say that placing him in the same category as the rest of the new guys, I don't dislike new rap, but I can easily say the old shit was more fire.

The group that helped bridge me into liking the new shit is A$AP Mob. When they first popped the shit they came out with was FIRE, even to old school standards, imo.

Mustard is a producer, so like, I don't really count him in this debate, but yeah, any performing artist can hit billboard 100 because they don't need to be lyrically potent.

Imho, producers / engineers are the real reason why a lot of these new cats are popping, since everything is focused so hard on effects these days the engineers really don't get enough credit.

EtH 12-29-2019 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Guts (Post 1191074)
lil yachty is garbage.

Blasphemy. I even have a Lil Yachty tattoo.

IIAM 12-29-2019 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Seul (Post 1191080)
I think Snoop & 50 are dope, but yeah, I still believe Chance is whack.

In terms of Yachty, I agree he's whack, he did have a couple of good songs, but not enough to boost him to the stardom he's achieved. Lil Uzi I think is decent, but I say that placing him in the same category as the rest of the new guys, I don't dislike new rap, but I can easily say the old shit was more fire.

The group that helped bridge me into liking the new shit is A$AP Mob. When they first popped the shit they came out with was FIRE, even to old school standards, imo.

Mustard is a producer, so like, I don't really count him in this debate, but yeah, any performing artist can hit billboard 100 because they don't need to be lyrically potent.

Imho, producers / engineers are the real reason why a lot of these new cats are popping, since everything is focused so hard on effects these days the engineers really don't get enough credit.

ii said the Mustard”s” as in his usual mumble rappers,

Also 50 cent only wrote 2 Songs on Get Rich or Die Trying.
Don’t get me wrong ii think he’s a great writer, he ghost wrote
For a lot of people’s projects. Ijs

I believe everyone is entitled to opinions,
But to say that Uzi is ok and Chance is *wack is weird to me.
He ain’t in my top 10 fav’s but can’t deny like an actual artist with his own sound.
He even ghost writes for Kanye... you like Kanye? lol
Idk maybe ii see Chance as a Rapper an Independent
talented actual artist, matter fax he reminds me of a young EM tone and all.
Vs
Uzi as some kid who is taken for a ride by the marketing machine
We see that style in like 50,000 rappers, Like if we took
1.5 million we can make another Uzi. But 1.5 can’t make him write or deliver like Chance.


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And i believe they are the same age,
With about the same amount of years
Active.

Seul 12-29-2019 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by IIAM (Post 1191085)
ii said the Mustard”s” as in his usual mumble rappers,

Also 50 cent only wrote 2 Songs on Get Rich or Die Trying.
Don’t get me wrong ii think he’s a great writer, he ghost wrote
For a lot of people’s projects. Ijs

I believe everyone is entitled to opinions,
But to say that Uzi is ok and Chance is *wack is weird to me.
He ain’t in my top 10 fav’s but can’t deny like an actual artist with his own sound.
He even ghost writes for Kanye... you like Kanye? lol
Idk maybe ii see Chance as a Rapper an Independent
talented actual artist, matter fax he reminds me of a young EM tone and all.
Vs
Uzi as some kid who is taken for a ride by the marketing machine
We see that style in like 50,000 rappers, Like if we took
1.5 million we can make another Uzi. But 1.5 can’t make him write or deliver like Chance.
https://youtu.be/0ShQwW0y2Kw
https://youtu.be/5utSZAReyuU

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And i believe they are the same age,
With about the same amount of years
Active.


Do you have any proof of 50 Cent only writing 2 songs? He's credited as a writer on all of the songs.

Also just because a rapper is spitting conscious rap, doesn't make him dope, I know it may seem like that in this pool of rappers spitting about nothing, but if you put chance in the middle of the 90's, the dude's getting eaten. To say he ghost-writes for Kanye, isn't really a point, because Kanye been on a downwards slope this entire decade.

I see what you mean though, I don't disagree with you entirely, but I don't like Uzi for his lyrics, I like him for the vibes, shit to blast in the car when you on the way to a party, etc.

Listening to that freestyle, chance whack bruh, hahaha.

Punk 12-29-2019 08:37 AM

10 Day & Acid Rap Chance was FIRE!!!

Anything after that, waaaack.


Buuuut Wiz Khalifa and Logic gotta be the wackest niggas to pick up a mic. I mean they got some catchy shit but lord. Even when they rap fast they suck and that’s hard to do. Just basic overrated trash

Óðinn 12-29-2019 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Seul (Post 1191073)
I gotta' say it's Chance The Rapper. Dude's fucking whack, this ain't on no hater tip. I actually gave him a good hour of my time an' decided to take in some of his songs and I ain't impressed, like, even these new trap artists got a good little vibe to their songs, but this dude is flat out shit.

Who do you think is overrated? ...& autotune isn't a reason to hate on a dude, for those planning to name anyone due to that reason lmaooo @2FUEL i'm talking to you. xD.

Lol. Any and All mumble rappers need to be taking out to the desert to an open grave, shot and buried.

50 Cent wrote loads of his own songs, fuck you on about cunt? @IIAM he wrote lots of the games hooks for his first album too. That’s a complete false story there. 50 can write and been doing so, check out all his mixtapes before Dre & Em.

Problem is; there will always be an audience for talentless people, the uneducated populations love them.

Fidel Z 12-29-2019 10:57 AM

I've been saying this for a while. LOGIC IS TRIDASH!!

TKtheGREAT 12-29-2019 11:27 AM

hot damn, hot water, hot shower
Hotlanta
Smokin green cauliflower

Autograph 12-29-2019 11:38 AM

Logic. I’m not saying he’s a trash tapper because he obviously isn’t but I don’t fuck with his music hardly at all.

NF. He has a couple good songs but for the most part, his music isn’t that relatable to me like it is to others.

G Eazy. I don’t duck with him at all

MGK. I don’t fuck with him at all.

Celsius 12-29-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Seul (Post 1191073)
I gotta' say it's Chance The Rapper. Dude's fucking whack, this ain't on no hater tip. I actually gave him a good hour of my time an' decided to take in some of his songs and I ain't impressed, like, even these new trap artists got a good little vibe to their songs, but this dude is flat out shit.

Who do you think is overrated? ...& autotune isn't a reason to hate on a dude, for those planning to name anyone due to that reason lmaooo @2FUEL i'm talking to you. xD.

Hope you ain't basing this off of The Big Day, which was an album dedicated to his wife.
Dudes real talented, can sing, rap and play the piano..

S A L T 12-29-2019 01:52 PM

I mean it is taste 'n preferences no matter how you phrase it. So Ima be the geezer here lol

I think most of the mainstream artists right now, specifically trap, are overrated. Music relies heavily on trends—shit is changing by the decades—but I'm waiting for soulful/funky type shit to make a comeback. I think the current trap phase will be remembered as a lower point in hip hop history overall (& I could be wrong) but I personally don't really vibe with it.

It doesn't feel genuine. And it's lazy lol. Lyrics/themes/etc. aside, I can't even dance to the stuff without feeling just weird. It deadass feels like they're simply selling the trend not making art, like it feels corny at this point. But it's probably just more niche than other eras have been. But imo if music should be judged, it should be on how big of an audience you can touch and how long that touch can last.

I personally think Chance (aside from most of his last album) is one of the better and more consistent lyricists, with solid delivery, feel good vibes, and that shelf value with timeless themes that connect with wide varieties of people living all sorts of lifestyles. Even so I thought Mac Miller was hella overrated until Swimming came out—that album was amazing. Kanye hits all those points that's why he's such a central/lasting figure.

I am coming around to some trap artists/songs but it's on a real hit or miss basis. If the shit gets my head nodding I obviously like it but that shit actually rarely happens now-a-days aside from new Ye or Pusha releases and random ass cats I find on Spotfiy hahah.

I think Logic, MGK, G Eazy, etc. (like Auto said) are all pretty corny too. They kind of just seem like high school rappers that made it which is probably exactly what they are.

IIAM 12-30-2019 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 2FUEL (Post 1191089)
Lol. Any and All mumble rappers need to be taking out to the desert to an open grave, shot and buried.

50 Cent wrote loads of his own songs, fuck you on about cunt? @IIAM he wrote lots of the games hooks for his first album too. That’s a complete false story there. 50 can write and been doing so, check out all his mixtapes before Dre & Em.

Problem is; there will always be an audience for talentless people, the uneducated populations love them.

No yeah, ii know he can write ii stated that.
Just saying that album had a shit load of writers,
And wasn’t necessarily a 100% 50cent.
I said that cause he said something like
“You should listen to GRODT and it will change your mind.”
I think his mixtapes and work prior to that are more who he is.

EtH 12-30-2019 07:49 AM

I don't know a lot of the guy's you're all mentioning so I'll go for someone really controversial; Guru.

While Ganstarr made some of the dopest music of all time, it was entirely down to the beats. If you had someone like NaS on those tracks they'd have been infinitely better.


Immortal Technique can barely ride a beat in half of his songs. Sometimes it sounds like he wrote the lyrics before hearing the audio.


Hopsin made a few absolute bangers. Ill Mind 4 was incredible. He just doesn't make good music in general though.

IIAM 12-30-2019 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1191152)
I don't know a lot of the guy's you're all mentioning so I'll go for someone really controversial; Guru.

While Ganstarr made some of the dopest music of all time, it was entirely down to the beats. If you had someone like NaS on those tracks they'd have been infinitely better.


Immortal Technique can barely ride a beat in half of his songs. Sometimes it sounds like he wrote the lyrics before hearing the audio.


Hopsin made a few absolute bangers. Ill Mind 4 was incredible. He just doesn't make good music in general though.

Guru? :confused:
bro you trippin that’s blasphemy-lmfaoo
And Nas is already on about a dozen
Primo Beats,

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@RULE any way S can can get an infraction for this treachery? A 2 day ban at least or something

Barzooka 12-30-2019 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guts (Post 1191074)
lil yachty is garbage. i never liked 50 cent or snoop or any of those cats. idk. most radio rappers are garbage to me.

50 Cent is awesome, Snoop is OK, Lil Yachty only had a couple decent songs.

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Chance The Rapper I don't have an opinion on.

Lil Pump is OBVIOUSLY overrated if she just compare his views to his actual content. He's fun to listen to tho but still.

Seul 12-31-2019 12:08 AM

I see what he meant by the Guru comment, although I dont agree fully, I can see why someone would say the beats are the real stand out in Gangstarr songs. I dont know about Chance still, maybe I ain't listen to the right songs, but no one showing me otherwise. Logic is trash, I agree. I dont know how everyone okay with him saying n*gga too, I ain't even black and hes still a lighter skin tone than me (facts). Pump is overrated even in this new generation tbh.

BizzyOne 12-31-2019 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Seul (Post 1191227)
I see what he meant by the Guru comment, although I dont agree fully, I can see why someone would say the beats are the real stand out in Gangstarr songs. I dont know about Chance still, maybe I ain't listen to the right songs, but no one showing me otherwise. Logic is trash, I agree. I dont know how everyone okay with him saying n*gga too, I ain't even black and hes still a lighter skin tone than me (facts). Pump is overrated even in this new generation tbh.

LMFAO AT THAT LOGIC COMMENT!

Student 12-31-2019 03:12 PM


Seul 12-31-2019 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizzyOne (Post 1191230)
LMFAO AT THAT LOGIC COMMENT!

I know hes got black in him, if you laughing at me - instead of with me. If I'm just mistaken, do you see what I mean? I had to google his background the first time i heard him. Dudes whiter than Jack Frost. xD.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Student (Post 1191289)

Wasnt bad to be honest, but I think he blew up a lil more than he should of, obvs imo, so I'd throw him in the overrated category still :o

Thanks for the listen though homie!

BizzyOne 01-01-2020 04:29 PM

Nah I'm not laughing at you. Just thought your comment was humorous @Seul

Godbody 01-02-2020 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Seul (Post 1191073)
I gotta' say it's Chance The Rapper. Dude's fucking whack, this ain't on no hater tip. I actually gave him a good hour of my time an' decided to take in some of his songs and I ain't impressed, like, even these new trap artists got a good little vibe to their songs, but this dude is flat out shit.

Who do you think is overrated? ...& autotune isn't a reason to hate on a dude, for those planning to name anyone due to that reason lmaooo @2FUEL i'm talking to you. xD.

Cant agree with you on Chance.. I never gave Chance a chance until his latest album The Big Day..

5 Year Plan
Big Fish ft Gucci Mane
Eternal
Ballin Flossin
Slide Around
Zanies and Fools...where I think Nicki Minaj snapped



It's a Top 5 album of 2019 for me no doubt, sonically. Not conceptually (it's not Lupe Fiasco deep), but just how solid each track is. And he snaps on some verses..

For me its NBA Youngboy, but Im not the most familiar w/ his work


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