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Zezmeril 12-23-2019 10:57 PM

My opinion on the whole Rican thing
 
I've had a weird bunch of interactions with Rican personally.

I started being accused of being Rican mostly by @IIAM and backed up by @Punk at the time. But rican did help me out a lot starting on the site. That was something positive about him. Unfortunately, most people here are not interested in new cats. Evidence of that would be how long Elevation crews last. It was actually nice to have someone around who could tell you "This kids a troll, that guys legit." As i initially thought @Dave or @EtH was a troll account the way he bullshitted in the chatbox.

Outside of that Rican left the BHC after posting things like "I'm here to help you guys." And that actually struck a nerve with me. So I laid my opinions out in the LBT when me and Rican battles there. He never really had a cross word to me outside of that.

Now, after @RULE looked into a situation and rican asked for a two week ban. I obviously knew he was doing shit that was not at all cool. But I assumed after the post RULE made that he had looked into it and made a decision.

Later, @Autograph was added to the mod team (congrats btw.) The sentence was changed without any new evidence being given to the LB community.

While I agree multis are a problem when it comes to rican mostly the rest of us tend to use them without incident, except when RULE almost battled himself in EtH's tourney. Luckily RULE did the right thing and pulled out.

I just don't see how exactly it's fair for rican's situation to be altered after RULE had presumably looked into it without anything new coming to light.

To further my stance, I believe rican deserves to be banned but I feel like changing his sentence after he is no longer in the picture with no new evidence coming to light was a little under handed for the staff to do.

No hate on @RULE or @Autograph i respect the decision i just think the entire situation could have been handled better.

IIAM 12-23-2019 11:12 PM

This muffugga is @Rican ban his ass lmfaooo
:skeptic:

@Punk can confirm

EtH 12-23-2019 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zezmer (Post 1190349)
As i initially thought @Dave or @EtH was a troll account the way he bullshitted in the chatbox.

The day I didn't make your change your name to Smegma was the day I went soft.

IIAM 12-23-2019 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1190354)
The day I didn't make your change your name to Smegma was the day I went soft.

Eww lmfaoo

Seul 12-23-2019 11:19 PM

To reiterate your point, I was cool with Rican too, and all my interactions with him were good. We actually had some good conversations, but yeah, sadly, he's done what he's done. I told him in IM's to delete all his accounts and just stick around on his one "Rican" account, but, he didn't want to. He never actually really answered it properly. To answer your question, they banned him and found further evidence of cheating and that's what called for the 2 year ban, when they do a ban like that, they lay out all their offences, and each offence earns you a certain amount of infractions points, and the amount of infraction points you rack up determines your ban length. So, i'm going to assume that was carried out properly, and it ended up as a 2 year ban. It's okay though bro, he'll be back on a multi soon.

EtH 12-23-2019 11:21 PM

You felt Rican was cool because you guys didn't listen to me. I don't know what Rican's done this time. No one's explained it. But at the end of the day when he comes back I immediately recite his entire wrap sheet and each new gen of people never seem to give a fuck. No matter how many times he bites ot self votes, he's still in RULE's top 10 and that's all that matters apparently.

IIAM 12-23-2019 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1190361)
You felt Rican was cool because you guys didn't listen to me. I don't know what Rican's done this time. No one's explained it. But at the end of the day when he comes back I immediately recite his entire wrap sheet and each new gen of people never seem to give a fuck. No matter how many times he bites ot self votes, he's still in RULE's top 10 and that's all that matters apparently.

It’s simple,
once the dedsec mod got in there
he did his own snooping and
probably found more stuff.
If you noticed he was quick and happy to
Post the ban results.

Seul 12-23-2019 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IIAM (Post 1190364)
It’s simple,
once the dedsec mod got in there
he did his own snooping and
probably found more stuff.
If you noticed he was quick and happy to
Post the ban results.

Goon Squad & Murda Muzik got the same leader, how come you aren't in the main Murda Muzik crew?

IIAM 12-24-2019 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seul (Post 1190365)
Goon Squad & Murda Muzik got the same leader, how come you aren't in the main Murda Muzik crew?

@GRizzEAT says ii’m not good enough :(

Seul 12-24-2019 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IIAM (Post 1190370)
@GRizzEAT says ii’m not good enough :(

Yo @GRizzEAT quit puttin' the man down, he out here reppin' you, throw a "Elevation" thread up and help your mans out.

Autograph 12-24-2019 12:22 AM

This thread kind of pisses me off for multiple reasons & I’ll be back soon with another thread addition.

Autograph 12-24-2019 12:37 AM

Ricans ban was his fault and his fault alone. He’s a repeat offender. His request to be self banned was only to pull wool over the Mod teams eyes. He’s deleted multiple threads in this ban time of his. We’ve seen him online multiple times during this ban time that he suggested. New evidence was found against Rican, including using multiple accounts to vote against battle participants in one battle. Add everything I just said to repeat offender and you’ll understand why his time is 2 Years and any multi created after today that turns out to be Rican will be banned by myself or the team, no ands ifs or buts. Rican will serve his full sentence.

IIAM 12-24-2019 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seul (Post 1190365)
Goon Squad & Murda Muzik got the same leader, how come you aren't in the main Murda Muzik crew?

If ii told you why fr fr
ii think you’d get a good laugh.

Seul 12-24-2019 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autograph (Post 1190378)
Ricans ban was his fault and his fault alone. He’s a repeat offender. His request to be self banned was only to pull wool over the Mod teams eyes. He’s deleted multiple threads in this ban time of his. We’ve seen him online multiple times during this ban time that he suggested. New evidence was found against Rican, including using multiple accounts to vote against battle participants in one battle. Add everything I just said to repeat offender and you’ll understand why his time is 2 Years and any multi created after today that turns out to be Rican will be banned by myself or the team, no ands ifs or buts. Rican will serve his full sentence.

I fucks with it.

IIAM 12-24-2019 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seul (Post 1190395)
I fucks with it.


Do me a favor every time u battle someone
Have them send me one too please. Lmfao

Seul 12-24-2019 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IIAM (Post 1190400)
Do me a favor every time u battle someone
Have them send me one too please. Lmfao

Send you a battle?

IIAM 12-24-2019 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seul (Post 1190402)
Send you a battle?

Yuh ii like the people u battle
They’ll help me elevate :high:

The Saaxxx Baba 12-24-2019 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zezmer (Post 1190349)
I've had a weird bunch of interactions with Rican personally.

I started being accused of being Rican mostly by @IIAM and backed up by @Punk at the time. But rican did help me out a lot starting on the site. That was something positive about him. Unfortunately, most people here are not interested in new cats. Evidence of that would be how long Elevation crews last. It was actually nice to have someone around who could tell you "This kids a troll, that guys legit." As i initially thought @Dave or @EtH was a troll account the way he bullshitted in the chatbox.

Outside of that Rican left the BHC after posting things like "I'm here to help you guys." And that actually struck a nerve with me. So I laid my opinions out in the LBT when me and Rican battles there. He never really had a cross word to me outside of that.

Now, after @RULE looked into a situation and rican asked for a two week ban. I obviously knew he was doing shit that was not at all cool. But I assumed after the post RULE made that he had looked into it and made a decision.

Later, @Autograph was added to the mod team (congrats btw.) The sentence was changed without any new evidence being given to the LB community.

While I agree multis are a problem when it comes to rican mostly the rest of us tend to use them without incident, except when RULE almost battled himself in EtH's tourney. Luckily RULE did the right thing and pulled out.

I just don't see how exactly it's fair for rican's situation to be altered after RULE had presumably looked into it without anything new coming to light.

To further my stance, I believe rican deserves to be banned but I feel like changing his sentence after he is no longer in the picture with no new evidence coming to light was a little under handed for the staff to do.

No hate on @RULE or @Autograph i respect the decision i just think the entire situation could have been handled better.

YO i'm always down to SAAXXX with you if you need any help homie !! :monkey:

Zezmeril 12-24-2019 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autograph (Post 1190378)
Ricans ban was his fault and his fault alone. He’s a repeat offender. His request to be self banned was only to pull wool over the Mod teams eyes. He’s deleted multiple threads in this ban time of his. We’ve seen him online multiple times during this ban time that he suggested. New evidence was found against Rican, including using multiple accounts to vote against battle participants in one battle. Add everything I just said to repeat offender and you’ll understand why his time is 2 Years and any multi created after today that turns out to be Rican will be banned by myself or the team, no ands ifs or buts. Rican will serve his full sentence.

Not doubting it. Just looks to the regular user that nothing happened and then ban the 2 weeks becomes 2 years. I believe things happened with this mod team and they acted appropriately. I'm just saying publicly it looks really weird.

Edgeworth 12-24-2019 11:05 AM

@Zezmer you should Read this https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168997

Zezmeril 12-24-2019 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabu (Post 1190499)

I just went back and did.

Like i said i think the mod team did the right thing. Just the first auto thread made it look sort of all of a sudden with no real explanation.

Brayne Ded 12-24-2019 12:22 PM

I originally posted this meme when Rican first came back. It still stands to this day.

https://i.ibb.co/zWdXYhn/Moe-Throwin...2019102134.jpg

The Saaxxx Baba 12-24-2019 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brayne Ded (Post 1190507)
I originally posted this meme when Rican first came back. It still stands to this day.

https://i.ibb.co/zWdXYhn/Moe-Throwin...2019102134.jpg

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EtH 12-24-2019 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autograph (Post 1190378)
Ricans ban was his fault and his fault alone. He’s a repeat offender. His request to be self banned was only to pull wool over the Mod teams eyes. He’s deleted multiple threads in this ban time of his. We’ve seen him online multiple times during this ban time that he suggested. New evidence was found against Rican, including using multiple accounts to vote against battle participants in one battle. Add everything I just said to repeat offender and you’ll understand why his time is 2 Years and any multi created after today that turns out to be Rican will be banned by myself or the team, no ands ifs or buts. Rican will serve his full sentence.

Which accounts & which battle? Why is no one giving specific details?

Edgeworth 12-24-2019 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1190517)
Which accounts & which battle? Why is no one giving specific details?

https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168997

All the information is there. You guys gotta put a second into looking for it Instead of having it personally hand delivered to you with a Christmas card and all of a sudden it doesn’t exist LMAO

Denton 12-24-2019 06:02 PM

I’ve always been cool with Rico even though I like to poke him for always being fishy with the rules (now confirmed Dingdong) even when he comes back I’ll be cool with him but imma still roast him

EtH 12-24-2019 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabu (Post 1190531)
https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168997

All the information is there. You guys gotta put a second into looking for it Instead of having it personally hand delivered to you with a Christmas card and all of a sudden it doesn’t exist LMAO

The thread wasn't showing up in the New Posts. It also offers zero evidence.


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