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X 09-14-2019 05:09 AM

Return of the moderator program
 
After careful thought and reading all your feedback, I've decided to bring back the moderator program. In the new program, major decisions around battle and user moderation will have to be made by consensus between 2 or more moderators.

I'm opening 3 moderator positions at this time and will expand as needed. Traditionally moderators have been elected by the existing moderator team, this time I want to give the community a chance to help decide who deserves this role.

To nominate/vote for the 3 new moderators, @ tag them by replying to this thread. Optionally, provide feedback about why you feel they will be good for the role.

joan of arc 09-14-2019 05:25 AM

i'm not sure who is active enough, but i'll start with who i think deserves it most.
@Rai

rai was the only member to stay active and try to pick up the pieces after the previous staff was removed. he has always wanted a position, and for the most part, has always been a productive and fair member of LB. He is knowledgeable enough about the site history, the people, and battling in general. I think he has the time and the willingness to do a fair and thorough job.
@Pugz

pugs has been staff since the start, and even though i know some people have problems with him, he is honestly the most experienced staff, who is emotionally invested in the site, not to mention, the money he has put in himself. I think his resume speaks for itself, the only concern is possibly howmuch time he can dedicate.

@Shodan

Shodan is knowledgeable on text battling, and site history, more so than most. He is also a user who i personally know would enforce the "rules" and have a no BS policy. I think he has the time and concern to make sure the site is operating smoothly. the only question is possible dedication. or his mannerisms being questioned, but i believe in shodan.


There are many others i'd nominate if not my question of the time they can put into this job. I know i've had my issues with him, but i'd seriously consider punk for the position as well. I question his attitude, and his commitment (another site of his own to work on) but, i know he does have passion and experience.

I would also recommend any previous staff such as edgeworth, hvk, student, jimmy hoffa, and seul. Of course that includes myself, but, again, i think the staff of the time (when staff was removed) was actually a solid group.

Nicholas 09-14-2019 05:32 AM

@Rai @Jimmy Hoffa @EDGEworth or @Seul

Any of those four would be decent.


Quote:

Originally Posted by n e r o (Post 1177327)
@Pugz

pugs has been staff since the start, and even though i know some people have problems with him, he is honestly the most experienced staff, who is emotionally invested in the site, not to mention, the money he has put in himself. I think his resume speaks for itself, the only concern is possibly howmuch time he can dedicate.

You just don't know when to take the dick out of your mouth do you.

Brayne Ded 09-14-2019 07:45 AM

@Shodan

REZN 09-14-2019 08:19 AM

Shodan's done as much, or more trolling on this site than I have. Just as an FYI.

Not only that, he's had multiple chances for moderator positions, and floundered each of them.

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@Jimmy Hoffa

A longstanding member of the site, with intimate knowledge of its functionality. Also a former moderator. Probably one of the former moderators with the fewest complaints against him, as well. He's shown site dedication, and is active, at least enough so to be considered.

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@Sabu (formerly Edgeworth) an intelligent, and collected site member. Stepped down due to a lack of consideration to the entirety of the moderation team when making decisions. A prime fit for the new style of moderation. He may not, now, be as invested in the site. But, during his brief stint in moderation was active, considerate, and dedicated. Impartiality is absolutely one of his strong suits.

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Me. (Partially joking.)

Former staff member, who has been using the website for the past ten years. Intimate knowledge of its functionality, and a strong dedication to the site's betterment(there's a serious track record of this.) Strong understanding of the mod control panel, and the site rules. And at a time, for nearly a year, was one of the few active moderators keeping this place active. (Shout out to Illokwent who was also heavily involved at that time.) Moderated initially by Noble.

Since I know I can't nominate myself, I'll be back with my third in a bit.

Edit:

I've a couple names for my potential third nomination.
@NOBLE

A former admin, who's implemented some of the sites most influential ideas. And amendments to factors of the site that were of massive benefit. He's always had a strong focus on facilitating the best voting possible. Has been a longstanding member of the site, and has an intimate knowledge of its functionality, both userside, and moderation side. An excellent choice. Though, his sporadic activity it somewhat obstructive to the aim.
@Rai

While I don't necessarily agree with the way in which he's run his contests, it can't be denied that he took the reigns to do so, and ran with them. A longstanding member, who's been shown to be an asset to the site(despite previous infractions for biting.) And while he has no formal understanding, to my knowledge, of the mod control panel, he is new blood. And that could be beneficial.
@Punk

A former staff member, who has shown his good intentions for the site. Albeit in sometimes obstructive ways(I'm guilty of this, too.) One of the most active on the site, despite sporadic bouts of inactivity in short stints. He understands the site, and wile sometimes when in these positions can be a bit coarse with the members, has never shown any instances of legitimate, or serious rule breaks.

joan of arc 09-14-2019 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wretched (Post 1177333)
Shodan's done as much, or more trolling on this site than I have. Just as an FYI.

Not only that, he's had multiple chances for moderator positions, and floundered each of them.

to be fair, he never really had a shot. every single time his name was mentioned for mod, he was shut down. mostly by nic, who held a grudge against him for something that you did.

he never really had the chance to prove himsel.f.

REZN 09-14-2019 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n e r o (Post 1177337)
to be fair, he never really had a shot. every single time his name was mentioned for mod, he was shut down. mostly by nic, who held a grudge against him for something that you did.

he never really had the chance to prove himsel.f.

What about the time he was given topical moderator, with the intent to be made a full moderator if he did well, and instead he threw a fit and quit?

I'm talking about chances he had well before you got involved, Guts.

Let's also not forget(I'm not 100 percent sure about this? Would have to confirm with Noble) that Noble nixed any chance he had of becoming a moderator, because Shodan was using exploits against the site.

joan of arc 09-14-2019 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wretched (Post 1177338)
What about the time he was given topical moderator, with the intent to be made a full moderator if he did well, and instead he threw a fit and quit?

I'm talking about chances he had well before you got involved, Guts.

once again, looking through the "forums" i never saw him actually be considered for mod. his name was brought forth by people like student and hvk, but was shut down by the mods.

mostly, as far as i read, every candidate that wasn't an elite battler and friends with staff, was declined a shot. but that's just what i could read, admittedly, there was a lot of missing content.

The Saaxxx Baba 09-14-2019 08:27 AM

for me it's -

@Rai (coz he been holding it down even without being a mod) @

Nero
(coz he been at it and we could do with his experience)

and

@Sean Griffey (he one of the only names other than Rai who made the FVC worth it's salt!)

Azul El Chivo 09-14-2019 08:28 AM

None of the above, the site floundered with them as mods for a reason. It's really slim pickings for quality people now. I'd say
@NOBLE
@Punk

@Me
@Rai

Anybody else would be a mistake.

Punk 09-14-2019 10:29 AM

^ thanks for the shout.

But honestly, mods were removed because of the same people you guys are already nominating lol. I’d probably like to see
@Rai because he’s been doing his thing while the sites been dead.
@Seul because he wasn’t actually the problem
@2FUEL if he’s actually back to stays because he was a decent mod before.

RULE 09-14-2019 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk (Post 1177343)
@Rai because he’s been doing his thing while the sites been dead.
@Seul because he wasn’t actually the problem
@2FUEL if he’s actually back to stays because he was a decent mod before.

Agreed

Rai 09-14-2019 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X (Post 1177325)
After careful thought and reading all your feedback, I've decided to bring back the moderator program. In the new program, major decisions around battle and user moderation will have to be made by consensus between 2 or more moderators.

I'm opening 3 moderator positions at this time and will expand as needed. Traditionally moderators have been elected by the existing moderator team, this time I want to give the community a chance to help decide who deserves this role.

To nominate/vote for the 3 new moderators, @ tag them by replying to this thread. Optionally, provide feedback about why you feel they will be good for the role.


I'd like to see @Jimmy Hoffa have his mod spot back. I think we all know he has what it is takes. Plus he has love for this site.

@Bone Daddy he makes some good damn forum post and mini tournaments. Plus is a dedicated member as well.

Also... @Bape would be a good one to look into, for obvious reasons, I might add. Not always active but stops in a few times a week. If given this role he would probably be more active.

And you know I want that spot... lol thanks for all shouts, yall.

Azul El Chivo 09-14-2019 11:01 AM

The former mods like Lock, Seul, nero were all in it for the power and advantage it can bring, their actions say it all but clearly you all don't pay attention to detail enough to see these things. Why do you think they've been ghost since? And that's why this site will continue to flop.

Punk 09-14-2019 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azul El Chivo (Post 1177346)
The former mods like Lock, Seul, nero were all in it for the power and advantage it can bring, their actions say it all but clearly you all don't pay attention to detail enough to see these things. Why do you think they've been ghost since? And that's why this site will continue to flop.

What’d Seul do wrong? I might’ve missed his part of the whole mod situation due to being banned.

Óðinn 09-14-2019 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk (Post 1177343)
^ thanks for the shout.

But honestly, mods were removed because of the same people you guys are already nominating lol. I’d probably like to see
@Rai because he’s been doing his thing while the sites been dead.
@Seul because he wasn’t actually the problem
@2FUEL if he’s actually back to stays because he was a decent mod before.

:) Appreciate the shout. I'm definitely back alright. :high:

@NOBLE - Obvious choice.
@Pugz - Naturally
@Rai - like punk said.
@RULE - if he is about, certainly.

Saii 09-14-2019 12:09 PM

I believe the mods that upheld the standard the best were Jimmy Hoffa, Edgeworth, and HVK.

I also believe we need to look at who, since the removal of the mods, has remained consistent.

There needs to be a fusion of old mods who displayed exemplary conduct and performance while in the role, as well as some new blood.

Jimmy Hoffa, Edgeworth (Sabu), and HVK were the top 3 previous mods.

Hoffa, future Hall of Famer, no scandals, always kept it 100 with everybody and has been around for a long time. He already knows the expectations that come with the responsibility. Since the mod shutdown, Hoffa has been missing, which begs the question of whether he was in it for the advantages that came along with the role.

Edgeworth, another future Hall of Famer, stepped down because of the direction the mod program was headed in. He worked his way from a new member to a mod in a short amount of time, attained the position, and didn't abuse it or change at all. He also was active and fair. Since the shutdown he has been a bit inactive, but not so inactive that he's been forgotten about.

HVK's absence and his decision to step down as FVC moderator hurt him a little bit, but either way while he was still a mod he was one of the most consistent and active. Also, being FVC moderator meant he was literally running a business within a business, and he ran it very well.


Now, with that being said, X said 3 new moderators...so if it's a whole new lineup then I believe it should be...


Rai, Shodan, Myself,

Rai, since X's new initiative, has without a doubt been the most active in the battle scene and in the forums. He organized the summer text tournament, tried to help run mine, and has pretty much helped keep this place afloat while also adding another title to his belt. He's never been caught up in any scandals and he's a great battler. I haven't seen him in any role of authority so I can't say whether he'd be a good mod or not, but he's certainly deserving of a chance.

Shodan is a future Hall of Famer, no doubt about that. He's been the head of multiple powerhouse crews and has mentored a lot of the battlers that are running shit today. He's been here a long time and he's always been fair in my opinion and he too has never been caught in any scandals. Although his activity as of recent has dropped, he's still been someone who's been in the running for a mod spot for some years now, and deservingly so.

Myself, just because I'd make a great mod lol

Punk 09-14-2019 12:17 PM

Basically what the site members are saying is, Mod anyone besides guts

Azul El Chivo 09-14-2019 12:28 PM

Doesn't matter really, there's too few quality people to really lead this site at this point. Shit's a sideshow, move on folks.

Bnas 09-14-2019 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azul El Chivo (Post 1177346)
The former mods like Lock, Seul, nero were all in it for the power and advantage it can bring, their actions say it all but clearly you all don't pay attention to detail enough to see these things. Why do you think they've been ghost since? And that's why this site will continue to flop.

I agree that Gay Hoffa was in it for power. Lots of dudes saying he shouldn't have been a moderator and some even left when he did become a moderator


I say 2FUEL, Punk and Rai



Honestly don't want to see Cockheart become moderator again or theirs gonna be more people disappearing with his fuck boy antics

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Griffey (Post 1177349)
I believe the mods that upheld the standard the best were Jimmy Hoffa, Edgeworth, and HVK.

I also believe we need to look at who, since the removal of the mods, has remained consistent.

There needs to be a fusion of old mods who displayed exemplary conduct and performance while in the role, as well as some new blood.

Jimmy Hoffa, Edgeworth (Sabu), and HVK were the top 3 previous mods.

Hoffa, future Hall of Famer, no scandals, always kept it 100 with everybody and has been around for a long time. He already knows the expectations that come with the responsibility. Since the mod shutdown, Hoffa has been missing, which begs the question of whether he was in it for the advantages that came along with the role.

Edgeworth, another future Hall of Famer, stepped down because of the direction the mod program was headed in. He worked his way from a new member to a mod in a short amount of time, attained the position, and didn't abuse it or change at all. He also was active and fair. Since the shutdown he has been a bit inactive, but not so inactive that he's been forgotten about.

HVK's absence and his decision to step down as FVC moderator hurt him a little bit, but either way while he was still a mod he was one of the most consistent and active. Also, being FVC moderator meant he was literally running a business within a business, and he ran it very well.


Now, with that being said, X said 3 new moderators...so if it's a whole new lineup then I believe it should be...


Rai, Shodan, Myself,

Rai, since X's new initiative, has without a doubt been the most active in the battle scene and in the forums. He organized the summer text tournament, tried to help run mine, and has pretty much helped keep this place afloat while also adding another title to his belt. He's never been caught up in any scandals and he's a great battler. I haven't seen him in any role of authority so I can't say whether he'd be a good mod or not, but he's certainly deserving of a chance.

Shodan is a future Hall of Famer, no doubt about that. He's been the head of multiple powerhouse crews and has mentored a lot of the battlers that are running shit today. He's been here a long time and he's always been fair in my opinion and he too has never been caught in any scandals. Although his activity as of recent has dropped, he's still been someone who's been in the running for a mod spot for some years now, and deservingly so.

Myself, just because I'd make a great mod lol


Hoffa never kept it straight, he banned me for a reason that should never had happened and he was gonna get banned for doing so, sources said. Guy sounds like he hasn't hit puberty yet, he's got decent bars at best but those bars be coming from sitting at home writing all day long and not having a girl or a well paying job. I've been assured that if Cockheart gets moderator again he will have to run it past the admin to use the ban button

Shodan 09-14-2019 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wretched (Post 1177338)
Let's also not forget(I'm not 100 percent sure about this? Would have to confirm with Noble) that Noble nixed any chance he had of becoming a moderator, because Shodan was using exploits against the site.

I don't know how NOBLE reacted, but "using exploits against the site" is an exaggeration to the point of being a flat-out lie. I found a bug that allowed me to give ratings above "10" by going into Inspect Element and changing the integer value associated with an option in the rating drop-down box, which worked because the server-side code apparently didn't check to see if the values entered were legitimate. I used it a couple of times just to prove that I could. I also responsibly reported this bug to the staff, and it apparently got patched. And now you say I "used exploits" as though I hacked into the site like Neo and stole everybody's credit card number.

REZN 09-14-2019 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shodan (Post 1177354)
I don't know how NOBLE reacted, but "using exploits against the site" is an exaggeration to the point of being a flat-out lie. I found a bug that allowed me to give ratings above "10" by going into Inspect Element and changing the integer value associated with an option in the rating drop-down box, which worked because the server-side code apparently didn't check to see if the values entered were legitimate. I used it a couple of times just to prove that I could. I also responsibly reported this bug to the staff, and it apparently got patched. And now you say I "used exploits" as though I hacked into the site like Neo and stole everybody's credit card number.

That's definitely an exploitation of a mechanic.

Edit: I also vaguely recall you bragging about this to me at the time, in a way that definitely made it seem a lot more like you reporting a bug, or doing it once or twice.

DirtyBarz 09-14-2019 03:35 PM

@Rai - since joining seems to be hungry to keep activity alive, and with the recent tournament
@2FUEL - wasn't aware fuel was a mod before, but he's a cool guy who gives good feedback
and educates newcomers, such as myself, on what to focus on.

Pugz 09-14-2019 03:38 PM

@Punk @2FUEL @Rai are my choices.. Im always down to mod if you guys want me..

Punk 09-14-2019 03:55 PM

Damn didn’t know I was a priority option lol

Appreciate the shout @Pugz and others who nominated the boy.

Joe MuGGz 09-14-2019 03:57 PM

Congrats to whoever that is picked

Shodan 09-14-2019 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wretched (Post 1177357)
That's definitely an exploitation of a mechanic.

Edit: I also vaguely recall you bragging about this to me at the time, in a way that definitely made it seem a lot more like you reporting a bug, or doing it once or twice.

Yes, I found a bug. Yes, I "exploited" it. Yes, I used it to give joke ratings like 666 or 1337. Yes, I told people about the bug. Yes, I thought I was super smart at the time.

What I did NOT do is harm the site in any appreciable way.

Saii 09-14-2019 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk (Post 1177360)
Damn didn’t know I was a priority option lol

Appreciate the shout @Pugz and others who nominated the boy.

You spanked that ass and got him in line lmao

REZN 09-14-2019 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shodan (Post 1177362)
Yes, I found a bug. Yes, I "exploited" it. Yes, I used it to give joke ratings like 666 or 1337. Yes, I told people about the bug. Yes, I thought I was super smart at the time.

What I did NOT do is harm the site in any appreciable way.

Crazy to me that none of that seems harmful to you.

Punk 09-14-2019 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Griffey (Post 1177363)
You spanked that ass and got him in line lmao

LMFAO!

D.A B.L.O.C.K 09-14-2019 07:30 PM

Pugz because he's been with the site from jump.
Muggz because he would be an excellent moderator
X because he is the original visionary

Pugz 09-14-2019 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk (Post 1177360)
Damn didn’t know I was a priority option lol

Appreciate the shout @Pugz and others who nominated the boy.

all the bs aside i think youd make a good mod if you had the shot.. your well respected and i know the love you have for this community... x will be hawk eyeing yall tho so remain impartial if you do get it... no one should have a personal agenda as mod

Dirty Work 09-15-2019 02:48 AM

@Rai @Wretched @Jimmy Hoffa

I excluded people who would be better choices, but who I thought probably don't want to be a mod, or who probably won't be active enough to fulfill a position in a group of only three mods.

OGxCERBERUZ 09-15-2019 03:00 AM

I nominate myself I believe I would be a great mod

Phil Banks 09-15-2019 04:08 AM

Good call here X

Punk 09-15-2019 04:50 PM

I’d definitely be down if offered.

Saii 09-15-2019 05:20 PM

So it looks like the general population is voting Punk, Rai, Shodan in response to X's question?

Nicholas 09-16-2019 04:31 AM

X shuts down moderator program because he can't trust mods with personal info: IP addresses etc.

X asks for new moderators

Userbase nominates Shodan. One of the users the worst exploiters of personal info in the site's history.

Mmmmkay.

The Saaxxx Baba 09-16-2019 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Griffey (Post 1177388)
So it looks like the general population is voting Punk, Rai, Shodan in response to X's question?

i feel punk should be replaced by you coz i feel punk is a much better resource as a non mod and being one is gonna restrict his punk-ness. i mean who gonna call the mods on their shit if the only person whose word is taken into consideration for it is made one. also sean has a better balanced head that would make a really good mod.

Punk 09-16-2019 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Saaxxx Baba (Post 1177398)
i feel punk should be replaced by you coz i feel punk is a much better resource as a non mod and being one is gonna restrict his punk-ness. i mean who gonna call the mods on their shit if the only person whose word is taken into consideration for it is made one. also sean has a better balanced head that would make a really good mod.

I strongly disagree. I’ve been mod before so I have experience and know exactly what the site wants.


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