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MaCc Da G0D 01-13-2018 02:51 PM

~ Are Battle Verses for ENTERTAINMENT Anymore? ~
 
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What Happened To Judging a Battle On How Much It Entertained You? Or How Many Times It Made Your Nod Your Head or Say 'Ohh Shit' Under Your Breath?

Why Is It Nowadays, The Judging Is So 'Technical' And 'To The Point? Used To Be Shit Said Like, 'Winner, Your Opener Had My Picking Up My Jaw!' Or 'Line 3 Almost Made me Jump Outta My Seat'..Etc Etc And Now, After Emotions, Envy, Dodging and Politics Have consumed So Many Members, All You See in the Voting Comments Is 'Syllable Count Wasn't Matching (Who Cares), Most Of those Multi's Were Broken (Umm..And?) Feels Like I'm Taking A School Test Rather Than Dropping Bars that The Reader Can Understand and Enjoy without Much Effort.

1. The Verse Should Be Able to Be Read and Understood without Too Much Explaining.
(unless You Have an Extremely complex Scheme)

2. It Should Make The Reader Feel SOMETHING other Than Just the Fact that they're Voting For a Credit.

3. You Shouldn't Have to Go Back And Read a Line More than Once maybe Twice to Grasp the Concept Delivered.

4. You Should Be ENTERTAINED!!

Other Than That, why Would You Be Breaking Down The Verse to Points Of Such a Specifically Rated Means That You're Lost In the Rules and what 'Society' Believes a Verse Should Look and Count Like..??

Its Just Something That I've Noticed. Most Will Just Make Jokes and Not take this Shit Into Serious Consideration, But Maybe SOMEONE Will.

This is Just a Discussion so LETS TALK!!!


Shodan 01-13-2018 03:19 PM

I'm one of the most technical battlers on here, but I agree that you have a good point.

KG The Prince 01-13-2018 03:27 PM

gotta agree w/ this too ... shit's like "you keep putting "" around tha wrong thing" - WHO THA FUCK CARES?!?! battling's about whose verse entertains you more, not 'bout how simple or complex a verse is, but maybe it's just tha structure here ... Setup --> Punch kinda thing

Brayne Ded 01-13-2018 03:48 PM

I agree with this as well.. I don't have the most technical verses by any means but it's a smooth read. I don't do expos on my verses because they're simple. Sometimes folks on here be cramming too much shit into a line and I get that it's "complex" and all but it begins to lose effect after chugging through a line with 83 different references. I know I have a much different style than most of you are used to seeing but I like how I write and it doesn't affect how I vote on anyone else battle. I respect creative differences. I just think sometimes a simpler verse with more direct punches is more effective and entertaining than one with 47 different quotes per bar.

MaCc Da G0D 01-13-2018 03:48 PM

*Nods* ....I Don't think I've Ever Agreed With Either One Of Y'all But This Is Just One Of those Things Thats Gone Have To Open Some Eyes...

lllllllllllll 01-13-2018 03:49 PM

The irony of the OP

MaCc Da G0D 01-13-2018 03:49 PM

...Here He Goes.

Rain Matrix 2021 01-13-2018 08:04 PM

Lol @ Macc telling us how to vote

@X ur site has hit rock bottom

---------- Post added at 08:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

Id like to say #Cancer but this is straight up aids

Brickrepper 01-13-2018 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A M E N (Post 1143195)
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What Happened To Judging a Battle On How Much It Entertained You? Or How Many Times It Made Your Nod Your Head or Say 'Ohh Shit' Under Your Breath?

Why Is It Nowadays, The Judging Is So 'Technical' And 'To The Point? Used To Be Shit Said Like, 'Winner, Your Opener Had My Picking Up My Jaw!' Or 'Line 3 Almost Made me Jump Outta My Seat'..Etc Etc And Now, After Emotions, Envy, Dodging and Politics Have consumed So Many Members, All You See in the Voting Comments Is 'Syllable Count Wasn't Matching (Who Cares), Most Of those Multi's Were Broken (Umm..And?) Feels Like I'm Taking A School Test Rather Than Dropping Bars that The Reader Can Understand and Enjoy without Much Effort.

1. The Verse Should Be Able to Be Read and Understood without Too Much Explaining.
(unless You Have an Extremely complex Scheme)

2. It Should Make The Reader Feel SOMETHING other Than Just the Fact that they're Voting For a Credit.

3. You Shouldn't Have to Go Back And Read a Line More than Once maybe Twice to Grasp the Concept Delivered.

4. You Should Be ENTERTAINED!!

Other Than That, why Would You Be Breaking Down The Verse to Points Of Such a Specifically Rated Means That You're Lost In the Rules and what 'Society' Believes a Verse Should Look and Count Like..??

Its Just Something That I've Noticed. Most Will Just Make Jokes and Not take this Shit Into Serious Consideration, But Maybe SOMEONE Will.

This is Just a Discussion so LETS TALK!!!


I co-sign this..when I vote it’s basically who’s verse was more entertaining.period

EtH 01-14-2018 12:25 PM

Not matching syllables = broken multis.
Broken multis = fucked up flow
Fucked up flow = no delivery on punches

No flow and weak punches = not an entertaining verse. Not fucking rocket science.

Babylon 01-14-2018 12:34 PM

Yeah your point is structured weirdly. You're saying you value emotional voters over logical voters, and that might be cool when they're going "oh your opener made me pick up my jaw off the floor" but that allure fades fast & turns to dick riding easily as well.

If yall really voting on entertainment alone, switch to a roast battling website instead of a rap battling one.

KG The Prince 01-14-2018 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A M E N (Post 1143200)
*Nods* ....I Don't think I've Ever Agreed With Either One Of Y'all But This Is Just One Of those Things Thats Gone Have To Open Some Eyes...

As always, acting like a bitch

Brickrepper 01-14-2018 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babylon (Post 1143232)
Yeah your point is structured weirdly. You're saying you value emotional voters over logical voters, and that might be cool when they're going "oh your opener made me pick up my jaw off the floor" but that allure fades fast & turns to dick riding easily as well.

If yall really voting on entertainment alone, switch to a roast battling website instead of a rap battling one.

I don’t vote on entertainment alone but its the most important factor to me but Entertaining to me is saying something that’s original, captivating, humorous, flow is important but the punch is more important..there are no categories so no need to breakdown every cat when voting, I don’t count multies everyone has their own preference on what they’re looking for when reading a verse..two verses could’ve have punches for days but if one verse is boring and the other isn’t...entertaining wins all day

Subreal 01-14-2018 11:23 PM

You guys too blind to see that Macc made this thread because he sucks at punchlines and being technical?

Shodan 01-14-2018 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subreal (Post 1143249)
You guys too blind to see that Macc made this thread because he sucks at punchlines and being technical?

You are correct, but he still has a point.

Subreal 01-15-2018 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shodan (Post 1143250)
You are correct, but he still has a point.

That's kind of what audio battles are for.

Óðinn 01-18-2018 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babylon (Post 1143232)
Yeah your point is structured weirdly. You're saying you value emotional voters over logical voters, and that might be cool when they're going "oh your opener made me pick up my jaw off the floor" but that allure fades fast & turns to dick riding easily as well.

If yall really voting on entertainment alone, switch to a roast battling website instead of a rap battling one.

:approved:

Shodan 01-18-2018 01:52 AM

This thread summarized:

LB:
"I'm sorry, sir. You just aren't good enough to be our concert pianist. You constantly hit bum notes, play off-tempo, and can't adjust your volume properly."

MaCc: "What?! How dare you!" hits keys randomly "None of you understand true music! You're all pretentious stuck-up fools who can't appreciate my artistry!"

Louie Dawgs 01-18-2018 06:23 PM

In my mind a verse is technically good when you can read it out loud and it flows and makes sense. When it doesn't that means that you have issues with your awkward wording, multi spacing, rhyming, or some other technical aspect. There are times when you can write shit and think it sounds fine, then when you read it aloud you're just like, "what the fuck???"


Every single time that I vote on here I read the verse aloud to see if I can find a natural flow and to see if there is shit in there that sounds nothing like regular human speech. When I get to a portion of a verse where I just go wtf when hearing it or when I lose the flow I figure out what's wrong and mark points down for it.

Honestly most of the time it's wording, a decent amount of the time it's multi's spaced to far apart, and sometimes it's just shit that doesn't rhyme. On occasion it's multi's being broken, but I actually have a tendency to let those pass if it sounds okay.

To me the best sign of a really strong technical verse is when you find yourself naturally reading faster the deeper you go into a rhyme scheme, when the scheme changes it's almost jarring. That's when you know it's good. I don't think a lot of people on here anymore really read or rate verses like this anymore though. Probably a reason why I'm (admittedly) biased against word flips.


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