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Nicholas 03-12-2017 10:02 AM

Another Idea
 
Stolen from Geocaching.com. We could have calendars added to each profile. Every time you battle on a date that date is crossed off. The goal being to cross of as many days as possible and complete your 365 day calendar. This works well with Geocaching as people do make deliberate attempts to fill the calendar, I see no reason why this couldn't work with Letsbeef.

People would need to battle 365 times at a bare minimum to fill the calendar, that's a ton of activity!

Obviously this would require adding by an admin. It could be a fresh addition to profiles or could replace the redundant skill ratings. Thoughts?

Here's an image of the Geocaching.com system. The numbers reflect how many caches have been found on each date:
https://adairmd.files.wordpress.com/...2/finalcal.jpg

Row 03-12-2017 10:49 AM

:maybe:

Pugz 03-12-2017 11:05 AM

thats pretty cool.. maybe we could utilize it in some kind of way.. ill get X to check it out

HIGHpothasis 03-12-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Row (Post 1121312)
:maybe:

Pwaahahahahah!!! This Was EXACTLY My Face.😂😂😂😂

X 03-12-2017 01:07 PM

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They do this on Github.com for developers too

https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/atta...1&d=1489338414

HIGHpothasis 03-12-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by X (Post 1121326)
They do this on Github.com for developers too

https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/atta...1&d=1489338414



My Calender Would Be Looking Like a Leaf Of Lettuce. ALL GREEN...

Nicholas 03-12-2017 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by X (Post 1121326)
They do this on Github.com for developers too

https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/atta...1&d=1489338414

This is cool, I think the numerical system does a good job of motivating people to fill every single day. Is this also a common goal on Github?

Rant 03-12-2017 01:43 PM

Not to be that guy... Again. But, maybe see some of your other ideas through to completion first.

Nicholas 03-12-2017 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rant (Post 1121330)
Not to be that guy... Again. But, maybe see some of your other ideas through to completion first.

I would have no role in this. This is just an idea for the admins should they think it's worthy of being added.

Rant 03-12-2017 02:22 PM

What's the purpose of this addition for this particular site, though? In what way is it less redundant, or offer more value than the text skills? Why is this relevant information to track, in regard to a battle rapping website?

Nicholas 03-12-2017 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rant (Post 1121334)
What's the purpose of this addition for this particular site, though? In what way is it less redundant, or offer more value than the text skills? Why is this relevant information to track, in regard to a battle rapping website?

It's a challenge much in the same way you might have achievements when you play a game. The challenge is to complete your calendar and have battled on every day in a year.

X 03-12-2017 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicholas (Post 1121329)
This is cool, I think the numerical system does a good job of motivating people to fill every single day. Is this also a common goal on Github?

The idea is to motivate developers to write code everyday

X 03-12-2017 02:41 PM

I think this thread brings up a good general idea about motivating people to battle

My original idea for this was the Emcee system, it was supposed to be more automated and tied into the battling system, so when you hit certain win streaks, or shutout someone on a battle, you'd get items automatically awarded. There would maybe be a way to put your items up for bet on a battle (like "I'll bet my chain on this battle"..), and a way to purchase items with credits.

@Pugz and I played a lot of Overwatch recently, and they do a really good job of this with the characters and items you can get for your characters, it really motivates people to play the game more. I'm thinking about revamping the Emcee system to be more like this.. and making Emcees more prominent throughout the site (new artwork too).

Nicholas 03-12-2017 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by X (Post 1121337)
I think this thread brings up a good general idea about motivating people to battle

My original idea for this was the Emcee system, it was supposed to be more automated and tied into the battling system, so when you hit certain win streaks, or shutout someone on a battle, you'd get items automatically awarded. There would maybe be a way to put your items up for bet on a battle (like "I'll bet my chain on this battle"..), and a way to purchase items with credits.

@Pugz and I played a lot of Overwatch recently, and they do a really good job of this with the characters and items you can get for your characters, it really motivates people to play the game more. I'm thinking about revamping the Emcee system to be more like this.. and making Emcees more prominent throughout the site (new artwork too).

I like this idea and I think the more of this kind of stuff the better. This ties into my forum awards email that I sent you in a similar way. We need to find ways of reinforcing the behaviours we like (battling, voting etc.) when those behaviours are suitably reinforced they will increase.

Babylon 03-12-2017 03:05 PM

I don't know about the emcees thing, personally. I'm five years in & still haven't even got an emcee, because they're just wholly unimportant to me and impact nothing. In fact I found them almost a damper on my profile, which is why I decided against it. Perhaps this is just me, though.

Nicholas 03-12-2017 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Babylon (Post 1121339)
I don't know about the emcees thing, personally. I'm five years in & still haven't even got an emcee, because they're just wholly unimportant to me and impact nothing. In fact I found them almost a damper on my profile, which is why I decided against it. Perhaps this is just me, though.

This is because they've been neglected, the same with forum awards. The lack of action when it comes to handing out items/awards has just left people indifferent about them. If awards and emcee items were predictors of activity and ability and were handed out promptly they would begin to be valued.

Celsius 03-12-2017 04:00 PM

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/E71Dlf4ccXQ/maxresdefault.jpg

Shodan 03-12-2017 04:39 PM

Honestly, I think small cosmetic awards (like emcee items) are most valuable in large communities, where people don't know most other users well. Since you can't become familiar with everyone, you rely on badges and such to tell you about people. With a smallish community like LB, where active users are usually well-known to each other, it's less relevant because you already know people in detail.

That's not to say that they're useless, just that they aren't nearly as valuable as they would be if LB had 10,000 active members.

Student 03-12-2017 06:01 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/bU2nZJegR7rz2/giphy.gif

RULE 03-13-2017 03:17 AM

u geocache Nick?

Nicholas 03-13-2017 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1121384)
u geocache Nick?

I was waiting for this. Yeah, I do it a bit. I prefer hiding them to finding them tbh.

Apollyon 03-17-2017 04:12 AM

Seems like a decent idea but also a waste of space..

Godbody 03-17-2017 06:32 AM

I think the idea is horrible. This is a rap battle website

I could think of 1,000,000 things LB could use before they implement a fucking activity tracking calender

Nicholas 03-17-2017 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Godbody (Post 1121704)
I think the idea is horrible. This is a rap battle website

I could think of 1,000,000 things LB could use before they implement a fucking activity tracking calender

Well don't keep them to yourself. Name a few...

RULE 03-17-2017 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicholas (Post 1121385)
I was waiting for this. Yeah, I do it a bit. I prefer hiding them to finding them tbh.

You seen that one down by you where you gotta walk across a fuckin pipe to get to it?

Dirty Work 03-17-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shodan (Post 1121354)
Honestly, I think small cosmetic awards (like emcee items) are most valuable in large communities, where people don't know most other users well. Since you can't become familiar with everyone, you rely on badges and such to tell you about people. With a smallish community like LB, where active users are usually well-known to each other, it's less relevant because you already know people in detail.

That's not to say that they're useless, just that they aren't nearly as valuable as they would be if LB had 10,000 active members.

My sentiments exactly... It's a way to instantly see shit about people before you even look at their record, or start perusing their battles.

Dirty Work 03-17-2017 05:56 PM

@Nicholas
The calendar's not a bad idea at all, but it is a bit boring. Using things like emcee items and awards is a much better way to go about displaying achievements.

EDIT: That doesn't mean it shouldn't be used as a way to track that particular category of achievements. It just seems sort of lame to have the actual calendar displayed on people's profiles. Maybe that's just me though

Godbody 03-17-2017 06:57 PM

It's not a bad idea, I'm just fucking with you

But there are a bunch of things LB could use more. A virtual currency or the ability to purchase Emcee items would be dope. And seeing as how the forums are dead, it'd be VERY wise to implement a virtual currency where people earn $$ based on starting threads, replying to threads, voting on polls, etc etc. That currency could also be the credits system LB is already utilizing. But considering mods can change credit values on accounts and some people are sitting on 10,000 credits, I believe an entirely separate virtual currency thing would work better.

I'm not pulling this out of my ass either. I know what works simply because I'm a member of at least 50 forums (50 might even be an understatement) and I've seen what several webmasters have utilized to make $$ or increase activity.

Nicholas 03-17-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Godbody (Post 1121730)
It's not a bad idea, I'm just fucking with you

But there are a bunch of things LB could use more. A virtual currency or the ability to purchase Emcee items would be dope. And seeing as how the forums are dead, it'd be VERY wise to implement a virtual currency where people earn $$ based on starting threads, replying to threads, voting on polls, etc etc. That currency could also be the credits system LB is already utilizing. But considering mods can change credit values on accounts and some people are sitting on 10,000 credits, I believe an entirely separate virtual currency thing would work better.

I'm not pulling this out of my ass either. I know what works simply because I'm a member of at least 50 forums (50 might even be an understatement) and I've seen what several webmasters have utilized to make $$ or increase activity.

I like that idea a lot. That's a great suggestion, I'll note that and bring it up when I get a chance.

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Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1121708)
You seen that one down by you where you gotta walk across a fuckin pipe to get to it?

Yes! That's literally just down the road from me at the fish farm. I've not done it yet but have seen the logs. Have you seen the log where a lady got stuck and they had to call the fire station? There are photos and everything lol. I'm amazed it wasn't removed after that.

Babylon 03-17-2017 07:41 PM

I've seen godbody suggest the currency system before, and I liked it then too. Though it does seem like a more lengthy undertaking than the tweaks & additions as of late, wonder if @X could do this?

Student 03-17-2017 09:02 PM

If there's a way for members to arrange they're top 10 awards it shows in the forums that could be useful.

Nicholas 03-17-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Student (Post 1121752)
If there's a way for members to arrange they're top 10 awards it shows in the forums that could be useful.

There definitely needs to be some more clarification and tinkering with the awards system. I went back and handed out a tonne of awards that had been missed out for the monthly top emcees back to about 2015 I think.

It would be good if we could remove awards as well as give them. Then for example when you get the '9 Years In' award we could remove the '6 Years In' one, same with the battle awards. This would go a little way in stopping the awards just becoming a cloud of logos.

Student 03-18-2017 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicholas (Post 1121755)
There definitely needs to be some more clarification and tinkering with the awards system. I went back and handed out a tonne of awards that had been missed out for the monthly top emcees back to about 2015 I think.

It would be good if we could remove awards as well as give them. Then for example when you get the '9 Years In' award we could remove the '6 Years In' one, same with the battle awards. This would go a little way in stopping the awards just becoming a cloud of logos.

I remember going through them from 2006-2016 I believe, I thought I got them all. Either way, yeah it's needs to be paid attention to more.

You can remove awards, you delete them in the modcp > awards system / delete from user.

Plus I firmly believe a huge reason the FVC hasn't worked out is on top of giving people a colored name, it's italicized and they get a user title. The "incentive" is way too much for people and they bullshit their way in there just to be "different". If it's only an award, it'll be less gaudy and if they're able to move the awards and show the top they want to show in the forums, they could put that somewhere in there. Thinking like "Current FVC Member" or something.

Just brainstorming, on another note the FVC name needs to die. Good Vote Squad, Elevated Voters Clique, etc. I don't know, something else to distinguish it from the past incarnations.

NOBLE's approach worked the best imo but it needs to be refined as well, look at previous history, really research voting habits and patterns.

Shodan 03-18-2017 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Student (Post 1121760)
Just brainstorming, on another note the FVC name needs to die. Good Vote Squad, Elevated Voters Clique, etc. I don't know, something else to distinguish it from the past incarnations.

Voters Clique Reformed (VCR) is the best I can come up with. But honestly I like the name as is.

Nicholas 03-18-2017 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Student (Post 1121760)
I remember going through them from 2006-2016 I believe, I thought I got them all. Either way, yeah it's needs to be paid attention to more.

You can remove awards, you delete them in the modcp > awards system / delete from user.

Plus I firmly believe a huge reason the FVC hasn't worked out is on top of giving people a colored name, it's italicized and they get a user title. The "incentive" is way too much for people and they bullshit their way in there just to be "different". If it's only an award, it'll be less gaudy and if they're able to move the awards and show the top they want to show in the forums, they could put that somewhere in there. Thinking like "Current FVC Member" or something.

Just brainstorming, on another note the FVC name needs to die. Good Vote Squad, Elevated Voters Clique, etc. I don't know, something else to distinguish it from the past incarnations.

NOBLE's approach worked the best imo but it needs to be refined as well, look at previous history, really research voting habits and patterns.

Ahh! Thanks for doing that. No, I probably picked up right where you left off. I agree with everything you've said. Thanks for the heads up on the remove awards, I've found it now. Guess this is my next task lol..

Student 03-18-2017 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicholas (Post 1121772)
Ahh! Thanks for doing that. No, I probably picked up right where you left off. I agree with everything you've said. Thanks for the heads up on the remove awards, I've found it now. Guess this is my next task lol..

Good to see you jumping in
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...784d62b7d6.gif

RULE 03-18-2017 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicholas (Post 1121733)

Yes! That's literally just down the road from me at the fish farm. I've not done it yet but have seen the logs. Have you seen the log where a lady got stuck and they had to call the fire station? There are photos and everything lol. I'm amazed it wasn't removed after that.

Yeah mate i went across it, the fucking log wasnt there lol.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...psh3qzmf4o.png

Yes i saw the pics of the fire brigade coming out to that woman lol. Its a steep climb at the bottom!

Nicholas 03-18-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by RULE (Post 1121778)
Yeah mate i went across it, the fucking log wasnt there lol.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...psh3qzmf4o.png

Yes i saw the pics of the fire brigade coming out to that woman lol. Its a steep climb at the bottom!

Lol! Props. I won't say where the ones I've laid are as this site is in the Rohan-IRL troll era but if you search the town a few miles down the road from where I live and look in the woods you'll see the one I've laid. Actually the name is ironic considering what I've just said. I have another one in the same woods but it's been disabled as the cache has gone missing, meaning to replace it. Good walk for the kids, and the disabled cache is in a location with an incredible view.

Shodan 03-18-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicholas (Post 1121781)
Lol! Props. I won't say where the ones I've laid are as this site is in the Rohan-IRL troll era

Didn't your name get posted on the forum a while back though?

Nicholas 03-18-2017 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shodan (Post 1121803)
Didn't your name get posted on the forum a while back though?

My name has been posted on the forums a few times in the past few years. If I see it in future I'll delete it but I haven't bothered to search past threads and delete any mentions of it. There are members that have found out my name but as above I'd rather keep it private.


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