Dallas Shooting
 

Whats your take on this? Shits crazy. Shooter was identified as Micah Xavier Johnson, an apparent black nationalist who was also a veteran.




Here's a take that views this as racially motivated, which so far I agree with. What do you guys think about this shit?

When a black person gets shot, black people stand up and speak.

When a white person gets shot, white people go on with their lives expecting it to make world news without speaking on it.

I stay in DeSoto, TX (10 minutes away from Downtown Dallas) and it was really scary. I was on Illinois Ave (google it) by the dart station and it's an area known for its violence. I was there visiting my girlfriend at the time. So when we heard the shots we didn't think anything of it because it sounded like it was so far off.

But then we knew something wasn't right when we heard how many cops were responding to it. Literally, sirens started going off from every direction and we saw cops FLYING down the main avenue (we went to see because we're nosey asf) and that's when I took my girl and brought her to my house. Then when we got there we saw the news :( look at my twitter, you'll see @f6rrest

this nigga out here promoting his Youtube

PWAAAHAHAHAH!!! Nigga trying to get seen by Any Means!!

why would i listen to a guy named Styxhexenhammer666 that looks like he does satanic rituals in his basement

Depends on how often you discredit worldviews for stylistic approaches before even being exposed to them

edit: also whats wrong with a good late night basement sacrifice every now and then?

Word. IHMS&WTD2k16

We dont expect white people getting shot to make the news cuz it almost never does. Between 50-60% of the 500+ people killed by police this year are white males and you dont hear anything about it because nobody cares about white cops killing white people, including white people because most white folks are conditioned to trust the system that THEY put in place for themselves. "They musta done something wrong to deserve that"-average white response to a police related shooting.

Roughly 20%-25% of police caused fatalities are black. Why is it such a big deal when black people get killed by cops when 2-3x as many white people are dying in the same way? Simple....90% of police officers are white and only 12 percent of the american population is black. The % of black people getting killed is double the % of their population share and the person killing them is almost guaranteed to be white. The proportions are fucked....if the police force was even 60-40 white, guaranteed it wouldnt be as big a deal. but 90-10? something is wrong.

#themoreyouknow

So every police officer is either white or black?
I guess the Asians took all the office jobs then? lol

Anyways...you made some valid points just not too sure about your percentages.

90-10 was non black/black so that was irresponsible. According to goverment surverys, newsweek, and the DC and NY newspaper surveys with varying numbers, on average nationwide blacks make up 9-12% of the police force, whites makes up approximately 75-77%, other minorities fill out the rest. Shit's still obviously completely out of wack.

Esso with those #BlackLivesMatter statistics. If you want the numbers to fulfil your agenda, they will.

A white person could say "How many of those police officers are from my neighbourhood?", "How many of those police officers grew up in my class system?" etc.

White people have no "collective" with other white people. Police never think "Oh, this guy's white, he's fine". A racist cop is probably just as likely to be a prick to a white person, because these guys are just that...pricks. They are pricks in pretty much every aspect of their lives. They will use someone being a minority as an excuse for abuse, but they would have found another excuse to abuse another person. That's what they do.

White people aren't conditioned to "believe in the system". White people face the same bullshit black people face from police officers. The reason it doesn't hit the news is because it doesn't play into the racial agenda which has taken over. After the Trayvon situation, if I'm correct there was a black man who said he would hit the first white person he seen, which happened to be an elderly white man who died. This didn't hit the news. The same day of the Mike Brown situation (That sweet and innocent youngster who had never done a thing wrong in his life) a black cop killed an unarmed non threat white guy and claimed racial profiling as his reason behind it. I've personally been dragged to the ground, completely innocent, by a police officer in a very similar fashion to what happened to Eric Garner.

Cops are random people. They are the same people that work in Starbucks and McDonalds. There is going to be loads of them that are pricks and incompetent. Loads of them with stupid beliefs and actions. Very rarely are these people delightful nice people....who just happen to be massively prejudiced and racist. For example, clearly George Zimmerman is a horrible human being, racist or not. PC culture dictates that race, gender and sexual orientation is more important than anything else. Instead of "Police officer murders teenager", the headline reads "White police officer murders black teenager". Is the race really important in a situation that murder occurred?


tl;dr? Fuck yo opinion.

Horrible situation, along with Philando castille and the other recent shooting.

numbers from govt agencies and newspapers...heres a few more.

You sound smart but come from a country that's 96% white and 3% Asian and .16% black....A racist cop in Scotland has literally 8000 black folks to pick out of 5.5 million population. Of course he's gonna be a prick to a white person because his chance of finding a black person to be a prick to is slim and none. There is barely an opportunity for racism to exist where you come from.....no offense, but your perspective isnt rational because youre essentially commenting from inside a bubble. Want real perspective? Walk around as a white dude with black friends around South Newark or the 4th in Paterson or any other dangerous, predominantly black neighborhood in this country....youll see and hear from the cops (who tell you to get out, you dont belong down here, stop associating with these hoodrats) , youll see and hear from the black folks living that reality (people who dont know you, automatically not trusting you because any white dude coming around gotta be undercover), you'll hear from other white people (Ive never been to that neighborhood because theyre animals living there. theyll kill you there). On the flip, theres towns outside the cities where "Driving While Black" seems to be an actual charge. Round here, the divide and the mistrust is real and its not going away anytime soon.

I can reply with any amount of government numbers. The % of black people that are criminals is HUGE compared to the % of white people that are criminals in America...but this means nothing. There are so many more factors in there that this stupid logic of taking numbers and using them to explain an entire thing isn't enough. It's not, pardon the pun, black and white. Some people actually believe the high numbers of black criminals is a racial thing...as if black people are inherently more violent or something idiotic like that. They are using the statistics the same way you are, using them to push an agenda when really there's a lot more to the numbers.

Don't white people have "privilege" and never get pulled over in their car? So more black people get pulled over than white people...yet more white people die? Huh? (That first part isn't a fact, but it's the type of bullshit #BlackLivesMatter logic).

I completely don't use Scotland (or Ireland) as a reference point. You don't need experience to comment on things, and if anything experiences might cloud someone's judgement.

White people typically will deal with the same bullshit that black people will in America. Racist cops don't come in higher numbers than dickhead and unfair cops overall, who don't discriminate in their negativity and hatred of random people. In some specific areas, alright race will absolutely be a higher issue. But right now in America, well just google "White privilege" and you can see for yourself. An example, on the back of your driving while black statement, is "You know that getting pulled over by the police isn't a result of your race". Oh, well, that makes it just alright then. As long as it's not a racial issue...it's almost like you never got pulled over then eh? It's being put across that race (and more recently, gender and whatever the word 'cis' is in reference to) is the only actual crime possible. If 10 white people get pulled over, that's "routine" and just the cops doing their job. If 10 black people get pulled over, that's racial profiling and a horrendous thing to do. It doesn't matter that the exact same amount of white people got pulled over, that's apparently irrelevant.

My only real point was, racism is fucking nothing. There's people out there using this shooting as an example of why black people are horrible, using dickheads on twitter praising it as some sort of proof of something. This is the exact same reflection of things the BlackLivesMatter folks do in reverse. Everything gets pointed at race...but who gives a fuck about race...this cunts a fucking murderer. That's a bit more serious than a racist.

The one plus side is that you cited Scotland and not my race as the reason I haven't experienced it. It's always quite funny when people say "You don't know about racism, you're white". Yeah, cause dismissing an entire opinion based on someone's skin colour is completely tolerant and nice, good job person :D

Racism is just something that fucking annoys me. It's become an excuse as opposed to a crime. People talking about being oppressed as if they had the same issues their great grand parents did and shit. Almost every single racial issue (or feminist issue, or sexual/gender identity issue) is easily refuted by pointing to similar issues that even "white cis males" face in tonnes of situations, but there's no way there's ever making a film about a white guy fighting to get into the Black Panther's (Men of Honour), complaining that there's not enough diversity in a film like Friday or the story of a man who is working so hard to get into Curves (Million Dollar Baby).

On the plus side, races and genders are getting so hipster that they are turning on each other.

Yes lol, thats a very real thing here. Most white people aren't privilege cognizant though. It's easy to overlook some advantages of being white in US. I'm not saying all white people have easy lives or that my life is a struggle lol. Theres plenty of white people that have a waaaaay harder life than me. All I'm saying is I can give you a lot of examples- just little things i've seen here and there -of white privilege in work.

You mean to tell me that a marginalized, and recurrently targeted sub-sect of the populous acted out against those who target them???


Shocking.

Black man to white man: "You have white privilege"
Skinny woman to black man: "You have male privilege"
Fat woman to skinny woman: "You have skinny privilege"
Trans woman to fat woman: "You have cis privilege"
Gay white man to trans woman: "You have straight privilege"
Black man to gay white man: "You have white privilege"

You've seen some black people deal with things some white people haven't. Cool. Have you seen some things white people have dealt with that black people havent? Privilege isn't a racial thing. It doesn't exist in bulk. It exists in individual cases. You going to tell me that some black kid growing up in Bel Air to rich parents is at a disadvantage to some white kid who's parents raped them and threw them out on the streets...cause of their race?

Everybody deals with different shit. We've heard all the white privilege shit yeah? Well how about we flip it...



Black privilege is being able to be proud of your race without being branded as a racist.

Black privilege is being able to take advantage of affirmative action to gain easier spots in colleges or jobs.

Black privilege is to be able to claim that no matter what you do, it is impossible that it is a racist act.

Black privilege is being able to condemn white people for the actions of their ancestors 70 years ago.

Black privilege is praised for experimenting with new genres of music, but claiming white people are "taking your culture" if they enter hip hop.

Black privilege is never having people assume you got handed everything in life due to your race if you are successful.

Black privilege is having outrage from all races when a crime is committed upon a person of your skin colour.

Black privilege is glorifying people like Malcom X or Muhammad Ali who were known racists.

Black privilege is having an award ceremony and television station to represent your racial culture.

Black privilege is having "white privilege" being a taught subject in universities.




Now, do I care about any of this? Absolutely not. This is just a consequence of evolution. Things developed this way. But tell me, can you refute any of that as true...and even more so...how fucking annoyed were you reading it? You feel like I'm saying "You black folks have it all" don't you? Fucking annoying to feel like someone would quickly refute any success or progression you ever have as nothing more than to do with your race eh? Well...welcome to the world of being told you're privileged.

Really, different people in different places face different shit. People just mistake everything for the class structure. Who gets pulled over first, black man in a tuxedo walking down Hollywood, or white kid in Fubu walking down the NY projects? No doubt, because of past racism there is a gulf in earnings between white and black people overall. The "ghettos" are still majorly filled with black people. I'm split on this. On one side, it's rough because you're being born into a horrible situation as a result of racism which was committed decades ago. On the other side...it's on you. You're an individual. You don't have to go out, sell drugs and get involved in gangs just because you were raised in a rough area. It's hard to be able to unlock that intelligence when your schools are terrible and your family are on drugs, but at the end of the day by the time you're a grown man...it's up to you to get yourself out of that situation. PLENTY of black people took their bad situation, worked hard and have went on to have success in every field. Doctors, teachers, lawyers, musicians, artists, architects, athletes etc. You can't use your race as a defence when the black man next to you didn't let it hold him back you know? (Not speaking to you personally, just a figurative black man born in a low income area).

It's the same everywhere. You get born poor, you face more challenges. In some areas in America, the poor areas are majorly filled with "minorities". This is true. But that doesn't mean right now anyone's holding those people down and oppressing them. As it is for white people and people of all colours, if you want to make shit happen that's on you.

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Horrible logic. Essentially, you have just completely okayed police officers to slay innocent black people because the police officers were made a marginalised, targeted sub sect of the populous who should now be able to act out against those who target them.

Those cops were people with a job. You wanted to be a pro wrestler right? Well a lot of pro wrestlers have been involved in rape in the past. This makes you a rapist now.

Sure, there's some horrible fucker cops out there. Plenty of racist ones to boot. So does this make it okay to murder random ones at will because they chose a specific occupation?

You've seen some black people deal with things some white people haven't. Cool. Have you seen some things white people have dealt with that black people havent? Privilege isn't a racial thing. It doesn't exist in bulk. It exists in individual cases. You going to tell me that some black kid growing up in Bel Air to rich parents is at a disadvantage to some white kid who's parents raped them and threw them out on the streets...cause of their race?



What? It absolutely can be a racial thing. Obviously, privilege isn't just limited to race but the color of your skin definitely can grant you advantages.

-When your looking at most television shows, historical figures, newspapers, video games, greeting cards, exd. Majority of the time you can expect to find white people.

-When your in history class learning about civilization, you're going to learn that people of your race basically made it what it is.

^These might not seem like much, but they can play a huge effect in shaping a person's worldview.


Yes, everybody has their own shit. I completely agree. For example, I have a cousin that's gay. Never in my life did I have to worry about people accepting me for my sexual orientation. On the contrary, he has. That's a huge privilege I have, and it's important that I 'understand' and bring attention to those kind of advantages/privileges.




Everybody deals with different shit. We've heard all the white privilege shit yeah? Well how about we flip it...

You asked me if I could refute any of these lol. a lot of these stuff would start a completely different conversation, but I picked out some of them because they aren't exactly black privileges.




Black privilege is never having to assume you got everything handed to you because of your race.

Never? This one made me cringe lol. "Oh, you got accepted into a good college?....that's only because your black" or "Oh, your a star athlete?...Well, if I was black I'd be as good as you too." I can't tell you how many of my friends think I got academic scholarships, only because I'm black or that I get graded easier because of my race.

Black privilege is having an award ceremony and television station to represent your racial culture.

lol this is like complaining about blackpeoplemeet.com or black history month. Once again, you see white people EVERYWHERE. They are represented on almost every level. I could easily find a television station(s) where majority of people represented are white.

Black privilege is having "white privilege" being a taught subject in universities.

Yes, this is a very important issue that has major impacts in society. I don't understand why this wouldn't be taught. (We have discussions about the fairness of affirmative action for minorities in college too) On a side note, not all privileges are the weighted the same- the advantages you receive from being white aren't as powerful as the advantages you can receive from being right-handed, so we don't cover every type of privilege.




I know, I have MANY privileges that other people don't, ranging from economic status to being a male. I'm not denying that at all. However, some of the advantages people receive are very significant (some being life threatening) so it's important that I understand that these advantages exist.

And white privilege shouldn't be used to say all white people have it easy/ used to say white people are racist/ used to defend every black person that isn't successful/ used to say that black people have harder lives blah blah blah...

No. That's besides the point. It's just important to, whether you believe it or not, understand that race is still an issue and to be able to openly discuss the effects of certain racial privileges.

And in response to the example of the rich bel air black kid and poor white kid that was raped, the poor white kid would still receive some privileges for the color of his skin- no matter his economic status. That's not saying that's he's at an advantage to the black kid. White priv doesn't automatically grant all white people easier lives. The black kid, most likely, would have an obvious advantage...probably a way easier life, compared to the the white kid. That doesn't mean that wp doesn't exist though.

Agreed. It can give you advantages. Like the examples I gave where a black person could gain an advantage. People gain different advantages from each other. White people don't gain blanket advantages over black people, and visa versa. People have their own individual privileges based on a large number of things.

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 1114651) -When your looking at most television shows, historical figures, newspapers, video games, greeting cards, exd. Majority of the time you can expect to find white people.

Disagreed. I've only ever had an extremely positive media reaction to black people and have only ever seen them do amazing and successful things

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Originally Posted by Dean (Post 1114651) -When your in history class learning about civilization, you're going to learn that people of your race basically made it what it is.

I never once learned about Scottish civilisation. I learned about the romans mainly in "civilisation". I'm white, the romans are white. Cool. Do you think I have ANY cultural connection to a Roman? A lot of people assume white people care about other white people. I have absolutely NO connection to a Russian person based on skin colour. We're from completely different parts of the world and have ZERO similarities culturally. Us being white has NO similarities at all. I've never been taught that my culture has ever really done anything successful. I don't see a depiction of Jesus and think "White men killing it out there". I don't feel like me and whatever race Jesus was or was not is anything close to whatever I am.

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Originally Posted by dean ^These might not seem like much, but they can play a huge effect in shaping a person's worldview.

I feel, and this is a generalization and you can correct me on it, that black people are often put down by their own culture. I've read some white privilege things saying "White people can walk into a building without people thinking they have a gun on them". Who the fuck thinks that? I can't imagine white people ever think a well dressed respectable looking black man "likely has a gun on him" but it's common place for black people to feel the world views them like this. Someone from the BLM movement the other day in London said "People see a group of black teenagers and cross the street". In London, people will often cross the street if they see a group of teenagers of any creed or culture, but it appears to me that many people feel that the black race specifically are treated like this BECAUSE of their race, which simply isn't the overall case.

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Originally Posted by Dean;1114651[I Yes, everybody has their own shit. I completely agree. For example, I have a cousin that's gay. Never in my life did I have to worry about people accepting me for my sexual orientation. On the contrary, he has. That's a huge privilege I have, and it's important that I 'understand' and bring attention to those kind of advantages/privileges.[/I]

But because you are straight doesn't mean you automatically have been more privileged than your cousin. Plenty of gay people have faced very little homophobia in their lives and have been accepted by everyone they've ever been around. On the contrary, plenty of straight people may have faced some serious problems due to their sexuality. You can't say someone has a privilege over someone else based on a blanket statement like race, gender or sexuality. Privilege is a specific and case by case personal thing.


Everybody deals with different shit. We've heard all the white privilege shit yeah? Well how about we flip it...

You asked me if I could refute any of these lol. a lot of these stuff would start a completely different conversation, but I picked out some of them because they aren't exactly black privileges.



Now you're getting the point. Almost all of these examples of "privilege" work both ways. I picked common examples. I don't care or believe in them specifically. Everyone faces their own shit. I can't say to a black guy who didn't get into college "Black people get into college easier so you're privileged". He didnt. He didnt get that privilege. Him being black didn't afford him that privilege, as is the case with most "white privilege".


Black people are everywhere too. I click on the music channel, if it's not Iggy Azzealia it's a black artist. Which means nothing. Plenty of talented black people are out there right now and that's fine. But these days there's so much positive representation of black people that you can't use this example.

I do complain about shit like blackpeoplemeet.com. I once went onto blackplanet.com. A thread was "Why don't you like white people?". Most people said "Cause we have nothing in common". I mean these lads are talking about rap music, rap battling, Friday....I'm pretty sure I know more than 90% of the site on all of the topics they'd be discussing. Bunch of Soulja Boi fans saying white people don't know about rap and shit.


It's an issue because it's segregation...but it's not an issue because racism WAS a big issue, and by allowing more black people into universities it means that it gives more opportunities to people who might not have got them otherwise. Also...please...PLEASE....don't say right handed privilege again. The internet just DOESNT need that.

I generally agree with most of the end of this. Acknowledging that you have it easier in people can be great to allow you to appreciate what you have and let you understanding other people's points of view. But look around...how often do you hear about "able bodied privilege" Vs "white privilege". People are telling white people to "check their privilege", claiming "black people can't be racist" and "black privilege doesnt exist" all the while wandering around on two legs thinking they have it hard and not acknowledging their "able bodied privilege".

People don't want to admit they are privileged. I will admit that white people can have it easier than black people when black people admit they can have it easier than white people. Race is not THE most important thing. Really, it's not. People don't care about other privileges that they are in "receipt of". If I'm told to "check my white privilege", I want someone to "check their whatever privilege". I've never heard the BLM leader discuss people with mental or physical disabilities and how they are catered for in the country. He doesn't care. The important thing to him is fighting against police (whom he automatically assumes are white regardless of their actual race) and defending any exclusively black (no other race) person that is killed for any reason by the police.

People have their own privilege. Privilege isn't defined by race, gender, sex, birth gender identity etc. It's defined by the shit each person deals with. White privilege is the belief that white people don't ever face the problems anyone else does. Male privilege is the belief that males don't ever face the problems woman have. These problems are like "You don't have to deal with random stops in the airport" (I've been stopped every single time I ever flew 'randomly') or "Men don't have to fear being raped on the way home from the pub"...even though men have been raped before.

These blanket statements are only designed to separate people further. A black guy can't call a white guy privileged, because that black guy doesn't know that white guy. No one can call anyone who's live they don't know "privileged". You have to take it on an individual scenario. Has that white person actually benefited because they are white? Has that black person actually faced negativity because they are black? The Hayes Brothers did a good video saying they've never been oppressed by anyone and feel that if anything, they are more privileged than the majority of white people they've met.

Off the topic of privilege, I just read back to back articles on an Irish feminism website. The first article was about women deserving more equality in the pay gap to men. Literally the article above it was discussing how women feel horrible during their period, and how it would be great if they were given time to handle it out of work.

I couldn't handle what birds go through. Seems terrible. Seems like having to handle going to work with a hangover for a few days every single month. But you know what doesn't earn you a rise? Going to work with a hangover for a few days every single month.

*Sits and waits for the punchlines*

THE COLD WITHIN

SIX HUMANS TRAPPED BY HAPPENSTANCE
IN BLACK AND BITTER COLD,
EACH ONE POSSESSED A STICK OF WOOD,
OR SO THE STORY’S TOLD.

THEIR DYING FIRE IN NEED OF LOGS,
THE FIRST WOMAN HELD HERS BACK,
FOR ON THE FACES AROUND THE FIRE,
SHE NOTICED ONE WAS BLACK.

THE NEXT MAN LOOKING ACROSS THE WAY
SAW ONE NOT OF HIS CHURCH,
AND COULD’T BRING HIMSELF TO GIVE
THE FIRE HIS STICK OF BIRCH.

THE THIRD ONE SAT IN TATTERED CLOTHES.
HE GAVE HIS COAT A HITCH.
WHY SHOULD HIS LOG BE PUT TO USE
TO WARM THE IDLE RICH?

THE RICH MAN JUST SAT BACK AND THOUGHT
OF THE WEALTH HE HAD IN STORE,
AND HOW TO KEEP WHAT HE HAD EARNED
FROM THE LAZY SHIFTLESS POOR.

THE BLACK MAN’S FACE BESPOKE REVENGE
AS THE FIRE PASSED FROM HIS SIGHT.
FOR ALL HE SAW IN HIS STICK OF WOOD
WAS A CHANCE TO SPITE THE WHITE.

AND THE LAST MAN OF THIS FORLORN GROUP
DID NOT EXCEPT FOR GAIN.
GIVING ONLY TO THOSE WHO GAVE,
WAS HOW HE PLAYED THE GAME.

THE LOGS HELD TIGHT IN DEATH’S STILL HANDS
WAS PROOF OF HUMAN SIN.
THEY DIDN’T DIE FROM THE COLD WITHOUT,
THEY DIED FROM THE COLD WITHIN.

- James Patrick Kinney

1.) Rationalization is not justification. The reason for the occurrence is not an endorsement of those actions, nor is being unsurprised by its happening.

2.) Nope. I wanted to be a booker.

1. You are numbering replies to a large unnumbered post.

2. It's impossible to know what the fuck you're on about.

You know what White Privliege is? Never having to ask if White Lives Matter.

Why would the privileged black kid be from Bel Air? You sound like a stereotype white joke....no offense. Dude, thats just the way things are here. Civil rights were only awarded 50 years ago...the Klan was millions strong, walking the streets with govt officials and cops among them, openly endorsing violence against blacks. Slavery. It takes a long time to undo all that....you can't teach generations to unlearn all of the hatred and prejudice, the injustice and the oppression, unless the people doing the teaching and parenting are all completely unbiased in their approach. People getting completely out of their feelings about such subjects is impossible...so it will never fully be gone. America has a unique history in that regard.

It's asked constantly of the Black Lives Matter movement if White Lives Matter. They reply "It's not about that". No one cares when a white kid, unarmed, gets shot by the police. Police officer can be black, white, asian, whatever. No one cares that a white kid got shot. That's hardly controversial newsworthy shit is it?

When a black kid dies, there's a protest. When a white kid dies (which happens at a higher rate)...not one person takes to the streets.

So...DO white lives matter?

Why wouldn't a privileged black kid be from Bel Air? I was giving an example of someone from an area considered "rich" Vs someone from an area considered "poor". The "rich" kid doesn't face the struggles and stereotyping that the "poor" kid does...regardless if the black kid is rich and the white kid is poor.

Endosred by government officials, walking the streets with cops, openly endosring violence against another race.....Eh...Esso mate...have a quick search for "Black Lives Matter" and "Dallas" and tell me what you come up with. I'm pretty sure what you'll come up with is the President of America endorsed group of individuals who take over the streets under police supervision and according to Twitter, consider the racially motivated murder of 5 innocent men to be the act of a hero and martyr. Obama went to the memorial service of the police officers and discussed racism in the police force...what's that got to do with 5 dead men who have no known connections to racism what so ever?

Slavery, smfh. Yeah cause black people are the only slaves that ever existed. It takes a long time to undo? Well I, nor anyone in my family no matter how far back, ever owned slaves (Considering my family tree comes from Ireland). Yet I'm somehow dragged into being part of a "race" (ie. some people with the same skin colour from an entirely different background and culture) that was involved in the oppression of others. You are not effected by slavery right now, I'm not effected by slavery right now. It's been a long fucking time mate and if you think your limited in your opportunities in life because your great great grandfather was mistreated...you need to look in the mirror a bit pal.

"That history will never be gone". So, what you're saying is....I'm allowed to claim that there's "English privilege" and seek reparations for the atrocities the English committed upon my ancestors? Basically, as far back as my family tree goes, there's gonna be plenty of cases of horrible acts committed by Englishmen onto either Scotsmen or Irishmen. You say it's impossible for someone's feelings towards this to be gone...but 55% of Scotland recently disagreed.

America doesn't have a unique history. Slavery happened everywhere. There are plenty of examples of black slave masters throughout history too. But you can't talk about that. No slavery amounts to the days of the KKK and cotton picking, right?

Slavery was a long time ago. Why is it a black man is allowed to feel this contempt and hatred towards that former oppression, but we'd all laugh if a woman said she felt contempt and hatred towards men as a result of the lack of woman's rights 50 years ago? It's just not relevant anymore but economically and socially...we've come a long ass way from those days to even have them be a factor in 2016.

Right....and its the first time anyone's ever asked if White Lives Matter. Its not out of concern or doubt that the country as a whole cares about White Lives, its out of insecurity because theyre not included when people ask if Black Lives Matter.

The fact you make comparisons to the Fresh Prince's situation shows how familiar you are with how things go here.....you see it in sitcoms and in rap videos and on the news. You're saying 'we've come a long way'. Is you is or is you not from Scotland? Fuck is this we shit if you dont even live here? Women have had equal rights for twice as long as black people in America and nobody was lynching women just for being female. And yes, other races and groups have been slaves.....but this is an American issue and over here, black people were the only ethnic group enslaved widespread. You're comparing apples to orange soda....You are not in touch with the reality of the situation you comment on.

It doesn't matter if black people feel like their lives matter more or not. Just like it doesn't matter if women feel like they earn as much as men. Facts are facts and don't take people's self-victimizing feelings into account.

If the media only reports that a black person has been killed by a white person of authority and never visa versa, then asking if white lives matter is a very legitimate question. Why aren't white people fought for and represented when they are victims of the exact same crimes (in higher numbers)?

I didn't make a comparison of Fresh Prince of Bel Air. I stopped and said "What's a rich place in America?". I just happened to pick Bel Air. Change the name to Beverly Hills or Stanford if you want. Doesn't change my point.

We as in the human race. Your mentality is why segregation exists. You live by a "we". "We black people". "We Americans". People are people. You have probably made a passing comment about Kim Jong Il or something in your time, but feel like someone who isn't American has no right to discuss America. Ironic in the wake of Brexit as well.

I love your "My social justice is better than their social justice". Women have every right to comment on your male privilege if you're going to talk bullshit about white privilege. Check your privilege fam.

Widespread racism is the only form of racism huh? So if you're ancestors weren't slaves in America...you don't know "da pain"? So someone today who lives every day in their life being horrendously victimised as a middle eastern man doesn't know the pain that a black man who may never have seen racism in real life a day in his life...because of "da slaves"?

Slavery is done. It's been done for a very long time. You, nor anyone you've ever met, was a slave or slave owner. It's gone. Abolished. Disappeared. You can't keep clinging to bullshit that happened in the past...and if you ARE going to do that...maybe realize that black people don't have shit of a claim in American historical race related pain in comparison to Native Americans. But Native Americans aren't controversial...so who cares about them right. #BlackLivesMatter #AllLivesMatterIsRacist #SocialJustice #BlackHeroInDallas

The fact "most" white people don't see that they don't need a movement to gain equality is astounding to me. By hijacking the Black Lives Matter movement your whole platform is that their isn't "White Privilege" i.e. you need a change in your life to find balance.

Black Lives Matter directs it's attention towards the policing. We're not talking percentages, because percentages doesn't change numbers. Fact is, white people are killed unarmed at a higher rate than black people in America. No one cares about them. No one's fighting for them.

People focus so much on fucking race. I watched that one with Anton (something, cannae remember his second name) and the comments are ALL race related. Some complete scum white people bringing up the guy's crime sheet like it's relevant. Other people talking about how bad white cops are and how black people can't catch a break. I'm sitting there like "The fuck are you guys talking about? We just watched a video of a man getting murdered and you guys focus on whether or not the murderer is a racist?".

Can you even imagine a White Lives Matter movement? It would be dubbed the most racist thing in history and would end up in a huge fight with BLM turning up to it. You're not allowed to be a non-privileged white person. You're not allowed to be a non-privileged male. Everything you achieve as a white straight cis male is irrelevant because the world handed it to your feet.

It's just funny that @Esso's mentality is that of most. Tell him he's getting the world handed to him as a male and that females are oppressed, and he says "That's bullshit"...yet he claims the exact same stuff that white people get the world handed to them and black people are oppressed.

Some people face some horrific racism out there...but racism isn't even the tip of the ice berg of serious problems in the world anymore.

Well said

You can't agree with these white people problems. You're clearly like Mexican or Samoan or something. You have "Kind of confusingly ethnic looking privilege".

More people dying does not mean its happening at a higher rate....Rate is how many times something happens per unit of measure....a percentage. In 2015, blacks were killed at a rate of 3x more than white people and made up 40% of those killed while only making up 12% of the population. How does that make any sense at all? "You're not talking percentages" because it doesn't fit your argument. White people are not killed at a higher rate....and thats the whole problem.

And again, in America women arent treated nearly the same as black people....theres levels to this shit, levels to privilege, oppression, and disadvantage and ignoring that to make a comparison reminds me you do not understand the situation.

I'm sure by the numbers, more unarmed Scottish people have been killed in America than black people based on percentages...but the numbers are simple. More white people are being killed by police than black people...but who talks about that? It never makes the news, it never makes the headlines. It's just "another dead white guy, meh...call me when he's ethnic".

Women feel they are treated worse than black men in America. They have lists of privileges to back that up as well as statistics on equal pay, rape, physical abuse etc. It's not, in any way what so ever, different from what you're talking about.

Everyone wants to feel that their current situation is the worst and most disadvantaged situation ever. Why? Because if they achieve something, they get a pat on the back for overcoming the odds. If they fail, well, they have a list of excuses.

Do you feel that black people in America face more racism and oppression that people from the Middle East?

White/Black man. I don't know what side im on :confused:

You're LB's answer to The Rock. Although maybe more like Alladin with your magic lamps and shit.

RIP ACs Chatroom.

I bolded what I responded to.

1) You can rationalize and be unsurprised by a police officer murdering several black people in response to this by your logic.

2) Bookers have been involved in plenty of shit themselves.

Exactly

"Police kill Black people at a rate disproportionate to both criminal activity and their presence in the population at large."


On a side note, some these police killings ARE about race, so you can't analyze every police brutality incident with a colorblind approach. Ignoring race would be ignoring any prejudice attitudes/beliefs that, in some cases, led to the death of someone, by law enforcement.