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Row 02-28-2016 07:02 PM

LBT Permanent title?
 
So, in the early periods of the LBT, it was discussed that a permanent title of LBT Grand Champion was to be given to the title holder who defends the title 10 times. Now it is back in discussion with the input of you all.




Vote in the poll above!




Keep in mind that, if this is instated, that upon receiving that permanent title, that champion will, for lack of a better word, retire, and then the process of crowning a new champ will start anew.


Defending a title 10 times in 32-line battles is a lot harder than winning the GC, which is why this LBT should include the prospect of a permanent title, adding more incentive to title holders as well as those to participate.

ILLoKWENT 02-28-2016 07:14 PM

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Row 02-28-2016 07:49 PM

uppin

Celsius 02-28-2016 07:50 PM

voted wrong.

Row 02-28-2016 07:54 PM

^fixed

Row 02-29-2016 09:12 AM

uppin

Row 02-29-2016 08:52 PM

Uppin

NatsHubby 02-29-2016 09:13 PM

just give it to Daddio or Illokwent and it'll still be permanent.

S O U L R I T E 02-29-2016 09:21 PM

Tbh I'm a bit on the fence, but voted yes just for the sake and respect deserved for at least trying to make changes. Excited to see how this turns out.

Row 02-29-2016 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iman (Post 1108183)
Tbh I'm a bit on the fence, but voted yes just for the sake and respect deserved for at least trying to make changes. Excited to see how this turns out.

What got you on the fence?

S O U L R I T E 02-29-2016 09:40 PM

Because I don't really understand those tournaments tbh. I don't really follow the whole ELO ranking system that well. But that's my problem, my fault. I don't participate in those types of tournys enough to know.

Manhattan 02-29-2016 09:42 PM

There is no ELO rankings for the LBT.

S O U L R I T E 02-29-2016 09:46 PM

See what I mean? Lmao

EtH 02-29-2016 10:16 PM

It was a stupid idea to begin with. When you create 5000 incentives for people to battle, why the fuck would they hit the open field when there wasn't a title on the line?

The prize of battling the best should have always either been the GC, or to prove you're better than them. Fuck this additional title bollocks.

ILLoKWENT 02-29-2016 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Masai (Post 1108191)
It was a stupid idea to begin with. When you create 5000 incentives for people to battle, why the fuck would they hit the open field when there wasn't a title on the line?

The prize of battling the best should have always either been the GC, or to prove you're better than them. Fuck this additional title bollocks.

instead of bitching ...how bout contribute now with a few battles.. maybe even vote ....doesnt hurt to try to do something worthwhile with your time as your logged on...no?

Esso 02-29-2016 10:32 PM

4 more to go...

ILLoKWENT 02-29-2016 10:37 PM

not to mention.... id like to see any of the current GC's win the LBT then defend it 10 straight times..all with 32's.... esso already sent bars to shiznit... and dude went ghost. so fuck that tired GC is the be all end all title...bullshit.

EtH 03-01-2016 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT (Post 1108192)
instead of bitching ...how bout contribute now with a few battles.. maybe even vote ....doesnt hurt to try to do something worthwhile with your time as your logged on...no?

Look around. What did "contributing" actually achieve?

It's funny, you post this shit all the time but it's always at the guys who have done more than you. Yeah, you've modded for a year with 10 people on line, nice one, good for you. You should be proud of your achievements as second in command to Row.

Really, I come on here to talk pro wrestling with Rant, occasionally laugh that you guys STILL argue against all logic and wait for someone to takeover to close the site.

If I'm right, you were one of the guys who used to fight for usertitles for every tournament. You had Hall of Fame members, biggest "draws" around, telling people "I don't even care about being a champ now that everyone has a title" and yet you guys still pushed it. You still push competitions even though no one is battling outside of competitions. You defend cheaters as long as they are "doing something". You sit there pretending everything's fine when the grand champ tournament has less of a turnout than Elizabeth Fritzl's 12th birthday party.

Maybe once in a while, you should stop and realize that the guys "bitching" were right all along, cause you've been voting and battling this whole time and the site's the worst in 10 years of existence right now.


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ILLoKWENT 03-01-2016 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Masai (Post 1108215)
Look around. What did "contributing" actually achieve?

It's funny, you post this shit all the time but it's always at the guys who have done more than you. Yeah, you've modded for a year with 10 people on line, nice one, good for you. You should be proud of your achievements as second in command to Row.
uh, actually its been 4 years, ive been modding..and theres was alot more members back then..and idgaf if rows higher than me, i was already asked about possibly being admin awhile back,and i just aint active enough to do that job responsibly.. so i declined.. and if row is taking initiative to carry this site ,i have no problem helping him out.


Really, I come on here to talk pro wrestling with Rant, occasionally laugh that you guys STILL argue against all logic and wait for someone to takeover to close the site.thats cool, have at it, its your God givin right...

If I'm right, you were one of the guys who used to fight for usertitles for every tournament. You had Hall of Fame members, biggest "draws" around, telling people "I don't even care about being a champ now that everyone has a title" and yet you guys still pushed it. You still push competitions even though no one is battling outside of competitions. You defend cheaters as long as they are "doing something". You sit there pretending everything's fine when the grand champ tournament has less of a turnout than Elizabeth Fritzl's 12th birthday party.
its ironic you say that considering that,everytime one of our old AC' members won anytype of usertitle you made it a huge deal, even making a titles thread in crew forums... which is sad that that part of you, enthusiasm for activity around this site has dwindled to the point that youve givin up, and resorting to kicking deadhorse and continually undermining others that arent quite giving up completely by belittling and bitching about the shortcomings of pugz and his site.. imo, you were a great contributor, but seemed to get bored with staying in line,so decided to shoot yourself in the foot ,hence getting permabanned at one point, etc.etc.. i get it, you are outspoken, but adding to the site bashing only added more carbon dioxide to whatever flame LB once had.. and no i dont think everythings fine, but i still have a responsibility to 'try'...



Maybe once in a while, you should stop and realize that the guys "bitching" were right all along, cause you've been voting and battling this whole time and the site's the worst in 10 years of existence right now.i dont need to stop and realize something that is common sense, i never recalled ever disputing any of the complaints that members bitched about...but that wont stop me from still tryin to help out..


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Rant 03-01-2016 12:05 PM

I voted nah. It defeats the purpose of the league, and clutters the site with potentially too many titles.

ILLoKWENT 03-01-2016 04:55 PM

there at very least should be some type of award or recognition for that type of achievement..

EtH 03-01-2016 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT
actually its been 4 years, ive been modding..and theres was alot more members back then..and idgaf if rows higher than me, i was already asked about possibly being admin awhile back,and i just aint active enough to do that job responsibly.. so i declined.. and if row is taking initiative to carry this site ,i have no problem helping him out.

There was a guy called shaz for a while. He asked for votes as a mod. Any of you ever seen him/her since? Of yeah...permabanned. Row shouldn't have even got the option. Why the FUCK would the site have a lead moderator who cheated TWO months ago? Has he changed and grown since then?

its ironic you say that considering that,everytime one of our old AC' members won anytype of usertitle you made it a huge deal, even making a titles thread in crew forums... which is sad that that part of you, enthusiasm for activity around this site has dwindled to the point that youve givin up, and resorting to kicking deadhorse and continually undermining others that arent quite giving up completely by belittling and bitching about the shortcomings of pugz and his site.. imo, you were a great contributor, but seemed to get bored with staying in line,so decided to shoot yourself in the foot ,hence getting permabanned at one point, etc.etc.. i get it, you are outspoken, but adding to the site bashing only added more carbon dioxide to whatever flame LB once had.. and no i dont think everythings fine, but i still have a responsibility to 'try'...

You're proving my point. I made a big deal, because it WAS a big deal. Was it a big deal because someone had something under their name? No. It was a big deal because they WON. Why is it everyone has such a small dick that they feel like they have to validate everything? You win a tournament, you beat a top battler...if happened. Chizzle didn't need "I beat Mayneak" under his name to be one of the biggest names on the site at the time. When something is a big deal, it's a big deal. It doesn't matter if your username has some shit written under it or not.

Also, you're pretty off with your timeline. You know what I was called Dave when made ACs? Cause EtH was permabanned already. Why does everyone keep "bitching" about the state of the site? Because we fucking tried, we tried HARD for this shit. All the ideas, the crews, the tournaments, the plans. And yet, what now? What changed after all of that shit? We put in the work, and nothing ever changed. Numbers dropped and every single warning was overlooked. You lost the old guard with stupid usertitles and glorifying cheaters. You lost the new members by never once advertising. You lost the active battlers by making it pointless to battle outside of leagues and competitions. And now what are you left with? 6 man GC tournaments. We saw this shit coming 3 years ago. We worked hard to prevent it. But what did it change? So what the fuck do you want everyone to do now? Just keep working until the dying day? There's only one guy that really would make me contribute to LB again, and we'll see what plays out with that.


i dont need to stop and realize something that is common sense, i never recalled ever disputing any of the complaints that members bitched about...but that wont stop me from still tryin to help out..

After a certain amount of time, it's hard to keep working. There was a hole in the middle of the ship and we were using spoons to get the water out.

.....

ILLoKWENT 03-01-2016 09:18 PM

@Pugz.... please read above posts. and i hope it helps you understand even more the situation that LB is currently in...and has been for some time...some of us will still put in work to help the site, but at the same time the captain has to knowthat the ship had a course to go to,buts been adrift aimlessly ... are we all sopposed to keep rowing blindly with no destination in sight?

Rant 03-01-2016 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT (Post 1108226)
there at very least should be some type of award or recognition for that type of achievement..

I feel like an award in the award section would be much better used to signify this notion, while also maintaining the original intent of the league, and also helping to keep the title clutter to a minimum. Good idea, Illo.

127839764 03-02-2016 04:27 AM

suck it up princess you should know by now that nothing is permanent on LB. speshily your mod rites cunt :D muahahahahahaha

13 Points / 2 Won / 3 Lost ? gtfo with your pathetic record bitchtits.

EtH 03-02-2016 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT (Post 1108252)
@Pugz.... please read above posts. and i hope it helps you understand even more the situation that LB is currently in...and has been for some time...some of us will still put in work to help the site, but at the same time the captain has to knowthat the ship had a course to go to,buts been adrift aimlessly ... are we all sopposed to keep rowing blindly with no destination in sight?

Don't try and rebuttal my boating analogy with another boating analogy.

Plus what's the point in tagging Pugz. What I posted isn't some new revelation. It's not like LB has been coming forward with new ideas like LBT and FVC recently. These are pretty old things now. The users exhausted original ideas to keep the site going years ago. Hell, half of the ideas were played out by the time Pugz even took over. Everybody has been saying this for 4 or 5 years now and the lad barely took any notice so what changes now? The only steps in the right direction since Pugz took over was crew battles being fixed and work on the skin.

ILLoKWENT 03-02-2016 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Masai (Post 1108276)
Don't try and rebuttal my boating analogy with another boating analogy.

Plus what's the point in tagging Pugz. What I posted isn't some new revelation. It's not like LB has been coming forward with new ideas like LBT and FVC recently. These are pretty old things now. The users exhausted original ideas to keep the site going years ago. Hell, half of the ideas were played out by the time Pugz even took over. Everybody has been saying this for 4 or 5 years now and the lad barely took any notice so what changes now? The only steps in the right direction since Pugz took over was crew battles being fixed and work on the skin.

all these ideas over the years dont mean shit, unless members are still into battle sites in general.. dudes like yourself already gave up, and with that mentality, its why LB is what it is now... pugz can throw in a million different skins, but the core abilities to battle or drop audio is still there... plus interest in this hobby has been on the decline for a long time.. u cant completely blame pugz... its his shit, his money,.. most of us never dropped a single dime to use this site ,yet were demanding shit from him?that shit sounds like a welfare case , that dont work, makes babies, and demands they get their monthly check from the govt ..smh

Row 03-02-2016 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT (Post 1108282)
u cant completely blame pugz... its his shit, his money,.. most of us never dropped a single dime to use this site ,yet were demanding shit from him?that shit sounds like a welfare case , that dont work, makes babies, and demands they get their monthly check from the govt ..smh


EtH 03-02-2016 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT (Post 1108282)
all these ideas over the years dont mean shit, unless members are still into battle sites in general.. dudes like yourself already gave up, and with that mentality, its why LB is what it is now... pugz can throw in a million different skins, but the core abilities to battle or drop audio is still there... plus interest in this hobby has been on the decline for a long time.. u cant completely blame pugz... its his shit, his money,.. most of us never dropped a single dime to use this site ,yet were demanding shit from him?that shit sounds like a welfare case , that dont work, makes babies, and demands they get their monthly check from the govt ..smh

But people are working, all the time...and none the less it's getting worse and worse.

Your opinion can't be "the site is falling because guys keep giving up" because they are giving up for a reason. Why would someone like me give up exactly? Was it cause I wasn't winning? I never was. Was it cause I was deleted? Nope that happened in 2011. So why was it? Cause every single thing you did was just one step forward in a site that was taking 5 back.

You're right. Interest was dropping. That happens everywhere. Nothing lasts for ever. So what did we do to keep new members here? What did we do to bring new people to the site? How did we take advantage of social networking? How did we promote the site through popular live battling methods?

We did absolutely NOTHING. This isn't shit me or you can do. You can't just blame the members forever. If a football team isn't buying any new players, you can't blame the existing ones that they aren't winning any trophies. You need to actually work to get shit popping, and work in the right directions.

We demanded shit because we loved the site and didn't want it to turn into what it is right now. Pugz doesn't want it to be in the state its in now. Pugz' problem is he prefers to let the site drown by his methods than breathe by someone else's. He was always too stubborn and wanted to turn LB into something he was interested in rather than something we were interested in. Pugz wanted to try his hand at being a promoter, so he used the Letsbeef name to be like "Hey, I have a website, I'm a legit business tycoon!". The guy probably worked his fucking ass off to put together some of those events probably dropped a good bit of money into them too...and look around, name ONE thing that brought us. Name ONE member who joined this site and contributed because of the live battling videos. So you're damn right we made demands, not one of them were filled outside of the skin and crew battles...and here we are. In a fucking ghost town where faggots like Row cheat but get made lead moderator cause they suck Pugz balls like the post above (I suppose Fiji Osa needed a replacement).

Anyways, this is my last post. It's a shame man. You can see just from all that shit above that there's obviously still some love for the site in there, but shit place is like a fucking Drake song at this stage. You look around and the shit breaks your heart to see so much solid fucking potential in a site that gave some of us well over half a decade of solid entertainment...be fucking shite all because some people are too stubborn and stupid to see what was right in front of them.

NatsHubby 03-02-2016 02:39 PM

I love EtH, I don't know what I would do with my life if LB goes down which indirectly means I would have no contact with Eth

ILLoKWENT 03-02-2016 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Masai (Post 1108288)
But people are working, all the time...and none the less it's getting worse and worse.

Your opinion can't be "the site is falling because guys keep giving up" because they are giving up for a reason. Why would someone like me give up exactly? Was it cause I wasn't winning? I never was. Was it cause I was deleted? Nope that happened in 2011. So why was it? Cause every single thing you did was just one step forward in a site that was taking 5 back.

You're right. Interest was dropping. That happens everywhere. Nothing lasts for ever. So what did we do to keep new members here? What did we do to bring new people to the site? How did we take advantage of social networking? How did we promote the site through popular live battling methods?

We did absolutely NOTHING. This isn't shit me or you can do. You can't just blame the members forever. If a football team isn't buying any new players, you can't blame the existing ones that they aren't winning any trophies. You need to actually work to get shit popping, and work in the right directions.

We demanded shit because we loved the site and didn't want it to turn into what it is right now. Pugz doesn't want it to be in the state its in now. Pugz' problem is he prefers to let the site drown by his methods than breathe by someone else's. He was always too stubborn and wanted to turn LB into something he was interested in rather than something we were interested in. Pugz wanted to try his hand at being a promoter, so he used the Letsbeef name to be like "Hey, I have a website, I'm a legit business tycoon!". The guy probably worked his fucking ass off to put together some of those events probably dropped a good bit of money into them too...and look around, name ONE thing that brought us. Name ONE member who joined this site and contributed because of the live battling videos. So you're damn right we made demands, not one of them were filled outside of the skin and crew battles...and here we are. In a fucking ghost town where faggots like Row cheat but get made lead moderator cause they suck Pugz balls like the post above (I suppose Fiji Osa needed a replacement).

Anyways, this is my last post. It's a shame man. You can see just from all that shit above that there's obviously still some love for the site in there, but shit place is like a fucking Drake song at this stage. You look around and the shit breaks your heart to see so much solid fucking potential in a site that gave some of us well over half a decade of solid entertainment...be fucking shite all because some people are too stubborn and stupid to see what was right in front of them.

i agree,that it is heartbreaking to see what imo was the best battle site around as far as existing capabilities.. and ultimately if thats what pugz wants to put in for the site, we either gotta just enjoy while it lasts, til we log on one day and the page reads, THIS DOMAIN NO LONGER EXISTS.... .. .

EtH 03-02-2016 05:43 PM

To be honest, I only enjoyed LB off of activity. I was never the best battler so most of my time it was either doing things like ACs or USS, or having fun in the forums. When the numbers started to die down, I remember I came back once and posted. My first time back in like a year's ban. At the start, everyone was speculating when I'd be back or who I was. So when I actually came back, I was like "Time to fuck shit up again". I posted and it was like "Oh, hey EtH" and that was it. Like one comment. Back in the day I'd have 10 people saying "Shit this will be good" and another 10 calling me a faggot who should have stayed gone. Shit would have kicked off from there.

After Illmania 4, LB completely died. It was like it was a final burst of energy before it shrunk down.

You can tell with me posting this shit too. I want to help. I want to stop posting on these other sites and go "You know what? I miss this shit. I'm being EtH again" but then I think "What's the fucking point? To talk to ILL some more? Who exactly is there left that I want to try and work on LB for, and what difference would it even make?

ILLoKWENT 03-02-2016 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Masai (Post 1108318)
To be honest, I only enjoyed LB off of activity. I was never the best battler so most of my time it was either doing things like ACs or USS, or having fun in the forums. When the numbers started to die down, I remember I came back once and posted. My first time back in like a year's ban. At the start, everyone was speculating when I'd be back or who I was. So when I actually came back, I was like "Time to fuck shit up again". I posted and it was like "Oh, hey EtH" and that was it. Like one comment. Back in the day I'd have 10 people saying "Shit this will be good" and another 10 calling me a faggot who should have stayed gone. Shit would have kicked off from there.

After Illmania 4, LB completely died. It was like it was a final burst of energy before it shrunk down.

You can tell with me posting this shit too. I want to help. I want to stop posting on these other sites and go "You know what? I miss this shit. I'm being EtH again" but then I think "What's the fucking point? To talk to ILL some more? Who exactly is there left that I want to try and work on LB for, and what difference would it even make?

its never too late... LB doesnt have much left and your spark and dedication was always welcomed to this site.. we could use all the help we can get in one form or another.

EtH 03-02-2016 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLoKWENT (Post 1108329)
its never too late... LB doesnt have much left and your spark and dedication was always welcomed to this site.. we could use all the help we can get in one form or another.

I don't want to just go down with the ship. I got a life boat and have been drifting around for a while. I'm just paddling back up to see if anyone else is floating about in the water right now.

My analogy game is fucking on point as of late.

But yeah, I'm just not doing work on LB until Pugz hands over control. No point. The guy has absolutely no business acumen and thinks that all it takes to be Organik is to stand next to a couple of dudes and say "Yo make some noise".

Honestly, Letsbeef.com was a much better place when X was gone and we were just left to our own devices. Now Pugz has fucked it all up so much that there aren't even enough people to do that with.

If you give a shit at all, sell up @Pugz

Esso 03-03-2016 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master Masai (Post 1108318)
Who exactly is there left that I want to try and work on LB for?

You seem to care about the place....do it for you. And, shit....if having ten people call you a faggot was a part of this you enjoyed, Im sure that could happen too.

EtH 03-04-2016 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esso (Post 1108367)
You seem to care about the place....do it for you. And, shit....if having ten people call you a faggot was a part of this you enjoyed, Im sure that could happen too.

If Pugz doesn't sell LB, the best thing for me would be the site being closed down.

AlkatraZ™ 03-11-2016 08:05 AM

Voted yes


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