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Obey 02-18-2015 06:29 PM

We Are God
 
I've been thinking, and something kind of struck me that could be a huge possibility. To me, the Universe is God.. it created us all, everything is made from it. We are all pieces of the Universe, our inner-conscience is our God. When you speak to God, you are speaking to your conscience through inner-dialect. Notice the repetition of the word ''inner''.. the Catholic church always saying that God is within us.. Back then they possibly didn't have the knowledge we have of our conscience, this could be something foreign to them. Your right and wrong, etc.. it's all processed through your own mind. Whether you think it's right or wrong, it's your own judgment of yourself. Your guilt will determine it. God could just be another word for our Conscience, I could be 100% wrong but to me it seems logical.

Subreal 02-18-2015 06:48 PM

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Obey 02-18-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Subreal (Post 1078305)

Being as evolved as we our, physically and intellectually. How isn't this a possibility that God was mistaken for our own Conscience?

Obey 02-18-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleu (Post 1078309)
No ones gonna take this srs

Yeah I figured, I think it's a cool way to look at it though.

Godbody 02-18-2015 07:54 PM

I've posted this a few times

We ARE Gods. We are pieces of the Universe, deriving from elements/chemicals/star matter in space. The ultimate goal is for us to become our own Universe. Think of it like a baby. A woman has a kid, that kid grows up to be an adult that has its own kid. In our human form, we're in the infancy of achieving Godliness and becoming our own Universe. People that understand the mechanics of the Universe are very aware and self actualized people. Jesus, Gandhi, etc

also, when you 'pray' you're speaking to God(Universe)

prayer + God in religion is the exact same thing as the Universal Law of Attraction, which is basically telling yourself you'll achieve something and putting the right thought(mentality) and action towards achieving it. Prayer is and always has been the Law of Attraction. Christianity/Catholicism derives from Pagan tradition, and in essence every Catholic/Christian is a Sun worshipper. The only difference is dates were given names(holidays), astrological/universal ideologies were conceptualized in a manner to make it easier for the masses to understand

Imagine teaching Universal knowledge & morals through astrology, meta physics, etc etc...its too complicated, so bits and pieces of truth were given the Disney treatment, and it gets passed onto us so that we know where to start in terms of seeking truth. and religion was born..

Like in school, they give you a bunch of classes to make you well-rounded and to see which one you gravitate towards.. math, science, history, english, etc etc. Think of religion as being a class that opens a door to the truth of the history of man. You might like math as a student, but imagine all you'll learn that others don't if you take up being a mathematician

Subreal 02-18-2015 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bleu (Post 1078317)
Except for pulse & Superguy maybe.

Lmaoooo

Obey 02-18-2015 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Godbody (Post 1078313)
I've posted this a few times

We ARE Gods. We are pieces of the Universe, deriving from elements/chemicals/star matter in space. The ultimate goal is for us to become our own Universe. Think of it like a baby. A woman has a kid, that kid grows up to be an adult that has its own kid. In our human form, we're in the infancy of achieving Godliness and becoming our own Universe. People that understand the mechanics of the Universe are very aware and self actualized people. Jesus, Gandhi, etc

also, when you 'pray' you're speaking to God(Universe)

prayer + God in religion is the exact same thing as the Universal Law of Attraction, which is basically telling yourself you'll achieve something and putting the right thought(mentality) and action towards achieving it. Prayer is and always has been the Law of Attraction. Christianity/Catholicism derives from Pagan tradition, and in essence every Catholic/Christian is a Sun worshipper. The only difference is dates were given names(holidays), astrological/universal ideologies were conceptualized in a manner to make it easier for the masses to understand

Imagine teaching Universal knowledge & morals through astrology, meta physics, etc etc...its too complicated, so bits and pieces of truth were given the Disney treatment, and it gets passed onto us so that we know where to start in terms of seeking truth. and religion was born..

Like in school, they give you a bunch of classes to make you well-rounded and to see which one you gravitate towards.. math, science, history, english, etc etc. Think of religion as being a class that opens a door to the truth of the history of man. You might like math as a student, but imagine all you'll learn that others don't if you take up being a mathematician

Interesting, there's definitely some correlation between us and the Universe that we still have some type an interaction with. And yeah, I seen a whole bunch of shit how Jesus and the whole story seems to be derived from another God a long time ago, basically the same story line and all. The bible is most likely a bunch of metaphors to possibly explain it, like you said, a dumbed down version of the whole situation. Nice to see someone has a similar mind-set.

Rant 02-18-2015 08:41 PM

pls lrn science.

lllllllllllll 02-18-2015 09:15 PM

I'm going with what these niggas said. The Universe is our god.

Godbody 02-18-2015 09:20 PM

lol ya'll niggas dunno what you're talking about because ya'll aint at that level spiritually yet. we're born on different levels based on the experiences we had in previous lives. We're energy, electricity, etc...you're a fool if you think you popped out of a pussy and that was your first incarnation or experience on any plane. be it this 3rd dimension on Earth or any plane.


life is like a highschool...most of the masses are freshman and have a lot to learn. I'd say I'm a soph/junior...not quite grasping everything important but im on the cusp of it

but hey, people will always turn the other cheek and keep incarnating and suffering. So knowing I might incarnate a few times less than others n avoid suffering makes spreading this shit all worth it. I keep it mostly to myself because beliefs are like journals. If Jay-Z shared his beliefs with ya'll, you'd be surprised to find out he shares similar beliefs. or someone like Will Smith

but ya'll wont call them crazy or conspiracy theorists. why? because of their status...you'd look like fools trying to talk down on people much more successful & wealthier than you. ya'll shut out my beliefs strictly because i'm pULSe and I have a reputation for trolling (along with a rep for beating the best battlers in text and audio too btw)

Rant 02-18-2015 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Punk (Post 1078342)
I'm going with what these niggas said. The Universe is our god.

The universe didn't "create" us. We are the product of probabilistic molecular, and atomic structure. Nothing else.

Godbody 02-18-2015 09:28 PM

we ARE the Universe. a part of it. And that's a fact, because if we didn't come from the 'universe', we couldn't exist.

imagine we were all ice cubes and we had this discussion. I'd be saying we came from water...which you can't dispute because you need water to create ice

im not gonna dive into an intellectual debate pulling diagrams and terms out of my ass trying to sound intelligent by hittin ya'll with Harvard professor vernacular. I just know what I know because I'm an indigo child

Rant 02-18-2015 09:43 PM

That doesn't equate to our being created by the universe. The act of creation implies intelligent thought. It simply means that our existence is necessitated by the probabilistic circumstances rooted in the universe's existence.

NOBLE 02-18-2015 09:58 PM

Interesting convo :mj:

Obey 02-18-2015 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rant (Post 1078351)
That doesn't equate to our being created by the universe. The act of creation implies intelligent thought. It simply means that our existence is necessitated by the probabilistic circumstances rooted in the universe's existence.

How do we know intelligent thought can only be processed in the mind of a human? There could be something of a great intelligence we're not remotely close to finding out about.

Rant 02-18-2015 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Obey (Post 1078356)
How do we know intelligent thought can only be processed in the mind of a human? There could be something of a great intelligence we're not remotely close to finding out about.

And that means that this hypothetical entity is the reason for our spawning? In the vastness of the universe, we're a mere speck of dust. We are meaningless insignificance.

Saxx 02-18-2015 10:20 PM

Who says Jay Z and Will Smith are more successful than me @Godbody
Society? Surely it matters more if you consider yourself more successful not what others think. Besides I don't have huge lips like Jay Z so im definately more successful!

My view? Born die the end.

Obey 02-18-2015 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rant (Post 1078361)
And that means that this hypothetical entity is the reason for our spawning? In the vastness of the universe, we're a mere speck of dust. We are meaningless insignificance.

I'm claiming it's possible that the Universe has an intelligent thought process. That there's possibly a reason why the Earth is so perfectly placed and able to sustain life, that we're here for a reason. I'm not saying this is 100% facts, of course it's not. I'm just saying, we are all apart of the Universe. My understanding of Science has nothing to do with this theory.

Aggo 02-18-2015 11:16 PM

Earth isnt really perfectly placed. The law of large numbers dictates that conditions would be right somewhere in a universe as vast as ours is. Now were finding millions of planets that exist in "habitable zones" that could be placed where life could potentially thrive. I think its foolish to think we are the only intelligent life in the universe. Possibly in our galaxy, that's yet to be seen. But there are billions of galaxies, the closest one to us is Andromeda and its like 100,000 light years away. We will never explore it. Not even close, but could life exist there? Maybe. What about in one of the other billions of galaxies with trillions of stars each with orbiting planets with orbiting moons. The numbers are just staggering and impossible to even comprehend. Couple that with the fact that we could potentially be one of infinite universes? We can only speculate and unfortunately thats all we'll ever have. Just go outside, look at the stars, and find your own meaning. We have no purpose, but meaning. Meaning we can make for ourselves.











Aight, I'm gonna go beat off to internet porn again.

Rant 02-18-2015 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Obey (Post 1078367)
I'm claiming it's possible that the Universe has an intelligent thought process. That there's possibly a reason why the Earth is so perfectly placed and able to sustain life, that we're here for a reason. I'm not saying this is 100% facts, of course it's not. I'm just saying, we are all apart of the Universe. My understanding of Science has nothing to do with this theory.

"That we're here for a reason." Your entire thought process is built on the fear that life has no purpose outside of that which we give it. And it doesn't. You're basing your premise on nothing but egotism. That the human race is somehow significant, or "special." That we have a "reason" for being. You know what that reason is? Luck. A roll of the dice.

Supsie 02-19-2015 01:12 AM

Good stuff @Obey and @Godbody making some good points to


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Originally Posted by Rant (Post 1078373)
"That we're here for a reason." Your entire thought process is built on the fear that life has no purpose outside of that which we give it. And it doesn't. You're basing your premise on nothing but egotism. That the human race is somehow significant, or "special." That we have a "reason" for being. You know what that reason is? Luck. A roll of the dice.

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Nicholas 02-19-2015 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Subreal (Post 1078305)

LMAO.

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Originally Posted by Rant (Post 1078325)
pls lrn science.

As much as I like to hear the spiritual speculation as entertainment, I'm rolling with Rant on this one.

Godbody 02-19-2015 03:22 PM

I knew Jason would chime in to ride the occassional Godbody dick

u a sus ass nigga bluh

Dono 02-19-2015 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Godbody (Post 1078313)
I've posted this a few times

We ARE Gods. We are pieces of the Universe, deriving from elements/chemicals/star matter in space. The ultimate goal is for us to become our own Universe. Think of it like a baby. A woman has a kid, that kid grows up to be an adult that has its own kid. In our human form, we're in the infancy of achieving Godliness and becoming our own Universe. People that understand the mechanics of the Universe are very aware and self actualized people. Jesus, Gandhi, etc

also, when you 'pray' you're speaking to God(Universe)

You're a hop, skip and a jump away from echoing Mormonism right here. Not too often I get to say that, and it's probably not a good thing.

I know your overall ideology is different, but in this section I was like hmm I've seen this before.

:cool: Let's grow up to be Gods. :cool:

Student 02-19-2015 03:59 PM

This is what I believe in.

I don't believe in "God" first of all, before organized religion humans only had faith. Faith derived from fear driven by the fact that they didn't know where they were going to go when they died. Someone came along instilled their own dogma on groups of people (I.E. There's power in numbers) Others soon followed, etc.

My faith is simply that there's is something greater then myself, which might have created the universe or at least know how it was created. Whether it was planned or happened out of pure random but seemingly planned circumstances, it doesn't matter. I understand that I'll never be able to fully comprehend how it happened and I'm content with that. I also can never fully accept that my conscience with cease to exist because my heart stopped pumping. Life would be pointless if were born to simply die, with nothing to contribute after we have physically passed on.

90% of our cells have their own microbial DNA that aren't "us'. The atoms is our body are 99.99_% empty space and we weren't born with them, they came from the belly of a star. We have 46 chromosomes, 2 less then the common potato. etc. etc. etc.

In conclusion the odds are really stacked against us as far as being "special" or here for a purpose beyond existing just to exist but why would we have a conscience and have the ability to create organized religions that have comforted billions of people throughout the history of our existence. Also, before organized religion we had the ability to create beliefs that benefited the community we resided in. We've collectively done incredible things, created amazing gadgets, as human beings. We might not even be here for a reason but dammit we'll make our own and live holding on to that hope.

Obey 02-19-2015 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Student (Post 1078534)
This is what I believe in.

I don't believe in "God" first of all, before organized religion humans only had faith. Faith derived from fear driven by the fact that they didn't know where they were going to go when they died. Someone came along instilled their own dogma on groups of people (I.E. There's power in numbers) Others soon followed, etc.

My faith is simply that there's is something greater then myself, which might have created the universe or at least know how it was created. Whether it was planned or happened out of pure random but seemingly planned circumstances, it doesn't matter. I understand that I'll never be able to fully comprehend how it happened and I'm content with that. I also can never fully accept that my conscience with cease to exist because my heart stopped pumping. Life would be pointless if were born to simply die, with nothing to contribute after we have physically passed on.

90% of our cells have their own microbial DNA that aren't "us'. The atoms is our body are 99.99_% empty space and we weren't born with them, they came from the belly of a star. We have 46 chromosomes, 2 less then the common potato. etc. etc. etc.

In conclusion the odds are really stacked against us as far as being "special" or here for a purpose beyond existing just to exist but why would we have a conscience and have the ability to create organized religions that have comforted billions of people throughout the history of our existence. Also, before organized religion we had the ability to create beliefs that benefited the community we resided in. We've collectively done incredible things, created amazing gadgets, as human beings. We might not even be here for a reason but dammit we'll make our own and live holding on to that hope.

Nicely said man.

Student 02-19-2015 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Obey (Post 1078542)
Nicely said man.

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Obey 02-19-2015 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Student (Post 1078551)

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Godbody 02-19-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dono (Post 1078533)
You're a hop, skip and a jump away from echoing Mormonism right here. Not too often I get to say that, and it's probably not a good thing.

I know your overall ideology is different, but in this section I was like hmm I've seen this before.

:cool: Let's grow up to be Gods. :cool:

not even close. Mormonism gets its ideas from other belief systems as does every modern religion

the source for my beliefs are the origins of every belief system that have been manipulated and presented to man in a Disney-like fashion. while ya'll niggas look @ Catholicism/Christianity, I'm asking 'ok thats cool but where did those religions come from?'...then when I find the belief system it came from, I ask, now where did that belief system come from? they all lead to a very similar truth... more likely than not, Mormonism stemmed from the beliefs I have that many share & have had since the beginning of mankind, and not the other way around.


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