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Student 10-21-2014 08:26 PM

I'm Officially Calling It.
 
This Site Is DEAD. There's No Coming Back, It's Like Fucking "Book Of Eli" Here And Nobody Is Blind Or Everyone Is.

Let's Talk About It.

Supsie 10-21-2014 09:26 PM

LETSBEEF LIVES!!!

Fidel Z 10-21-2014 10:26 PM

It is what it is

Godbody 10-21-2014 11:08 PM

Y'all ain't wanna listen and said I was trolling

If the admins woulda implemented half the suggestions I made 2-3 yrs ago this shit would be poppin and makin money

It looks like the new skin was implemented BECAUSE LB was dying. It should've been done as a measure to prevent the site from dying, not after the fact as a way of saying 'please come back'..niggas woulda never left in the first place if shit was handled properly

This shit is unbearable to look at now and it's a drag to post. It's like doing charity to bring activity here

Then it's like the same 5 heads in the chatbox daily and 5 other heads that pop in here or there but u always see phrozen Rant and SuperGuy

Quincy® 10-21-2014 11:20 PM

Congrats on student! You weren't the first to say the truth. But surely you won't be the last. Besides the site becomes dead for a month or so. Then the following three month's its back and live. Thanks to superguy for his enthusiasm. He never seems to be bored. At least not here IMO! Plus Fidel your dope and a funny cat. Keep battling bra. Also Jason I read that cyhper you had that was scripted like a king. What lb need's is the cats that take time to stare at the forum's that can really set these rep's higher to keep their share consistent. Like UA and milk battle was fire. All the dope stuff that can be remember is all. Js. People who are new gets no long stay with more greats leaving and not setting a exanple and stepping on heads to keep these newbs in. They just leave when they see no use of the site. Most users like myself came here to elevate my battle game and when I was here my first battle I got ripped in a quick fashion. But that L was key to my stay if I would've won I wouldn't say I'd leave but seeing good pointer finger and gesture's to saying he's not bad and actually giving a shit is what matter's. So we should keep lb rising up with honor and all you great cats hofs @Jason @Mayneak @RULE who clearly got those talents and rep's let's rep letsbeef together and make it rise again. That's my way of this thread.

Emo Curry 10-22-2014 12:06 AM

^ ? boy what.. the fuck.. you talkin bout? I'm just now seeing your name on the site this month.. You been here?

Dysfunctional 10-22-2014 12:12 AM

This sites dying because we have more forum cats leaving then we have new guys getting active in the forums tbh

lllllllllllll 10-22-2014 12:19 AM

It's dying because.......... Don't shit work lmfao

And everything is getting fixed at the wrong time... But i think it will soonly grow again only because Battle Rap is becoming a huge thing in Hip Hop and most people would wanna try it out in some form.

So hang on.... niggas

Dysfunctional 10-22-2014 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aye Its Punk (Post 1059055)
It's dying because.......... Don't shit work lmfao

And everything is getting fixed at the wrong time... But i think it will soonly grow again only because Battle Rap is becoming a huge thing in Hip Hop and most people would wanna try it out in some form.

So hang on.... niggas

Yeah I'll agree with that

Quincy® 10-22-2014 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Its Punk (Post 1059053)
^ ? boy what.. the fuck.. you talkin bout? I'm just now seeing your name on the site this month.. You been here?

Bro ^^?? Tf?? Umm I remember your old alias fam. I sent you bars way back and you never replied. You were nice when you were battling too. I was only a rookie and was new to text battle's. If anything else if I'm not mistaken you were Versace guy. Or Indonesia. You two cats are always confusing. And yes you just are now seeing me this month due to a couple of Ban's that messed up my activity level and now I'm back and still like the site. IMO. We just need to stay active. Everything else will fall in place.

COFFIN DODGER 10-22-2014 01:39 PM

yup . keep the faith ... I am always promoting the site on facebook , and also on twitter . tbh most on facebook suck bigtime , but trying to get them over here so they can elevate and learn . other sites I have seen similar to lb are either too confusing or too dead lol . LB can still be one of the best if it starts getting some regular traffic again .

Hubert Cumberdale 10-22-2014 02:09 PM

I feel like a cunt about it all to be honest. Everything I was asking for is playing out, and I couldnt care less. Shit was just like 2 or 3 months past for me.

Student 10-22-2014 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 1059037)
brah Pugz just made a LB pumpkin

dis shit never been more alive

:pimp:

Lmfao. Good Ol' Jason Providing A Laugh, Pumpkin Or No Pumpkin, Shit Mad Dead Here.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md1b5ahimt1r4gfcs.gif

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Originally Posted by Godbody (Post 1059045)
Y'all ain't wanna listen and said I was trolling

If the admins woulda implemented half the suggestions I made 2-3 yrs ago this shit would be poppin and makin money

It looks like the new skin was implemented BECAUSE LB was dying. It should've been done as a measure to prevent the site from dying, not after the fact as a way of saying 'please come back'..niggas woulda never left in the first place if shit was handled properly

This shit is unbearable to look at now and it's a drag to post. It's like doing charity to bring activity here

Then it's like the same 5 heads in the chatbox daily and 5 other heads that pop in here or there but u always see phrozen Rant and SuperGuy

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Except That Part About Your Suggestions Lol Former Staff Members Dropped Suggestions For Years And Nothing Got Done.

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Originally Posted by Dysfunctional (Post 1059054)
This sites dying because we have more forum cats leaving then we have new guys getting active in the forums tbh

Another Co-Sign, But You've Been Here Almost 2 Years And Only Have 789 Posts. So I'm Glad You Understand But You Can't Really Say Much TBH.

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Originally Posted by Q~THE~DON~ (Post 1059049)
Congrats on student! You weren't the first to say the truth. But surely you won't be the last. Besides the site becomes dead for a month or so. Then the following three month's its back and live. Thanks to superguy for his enthusiasm. He never seems to be bored. At least not here IMO! Plus Fidel your dope and a funny cat. Keep battling bra. Also Jason I read that cyhper you had that was scripted like a king. What lb need's is the cats that take time to stare at the forum's that can really set these rep's higher to keep their share consistent. Like UA and milk battle was fire. All the dope stuff that can be remember is all. Js. People who are new gets no long stay with more greats leaving and not setting a exanple and stepping on heads to keep these newbs in. They just leave when they see no use of the site. Most users like myself came here to elevate my battle game and when I was here my first battle I got ripped in a quick fashion. But that L was key to my stay if I would've won I wouldn't say I'd leave but seeing good pointer finger and gesture's to saying he's not bad and actually giving a shit is what matter's. So we should keep lb rising up with honor and all you great cats hofs @Jason @Mayneak @RULE who clearly got those talents and rep's let's rep letsbeef together and make it rise again. That's my way of this thread.

Nigga's Congratulating Me On "Saying The Truth" Lmao You Can Put Up With So Much Before You Reach A Breaking Point.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aye Its Punk (Post 1059055)
It's dying because.......... Don't shit work lmfao

And everything is getting fixed at the wrong time... But i think it will soonly grow again only because Battle Rap is becoming a huge thing in Hip Hop and most people would wanna try it out in some form.

So hang on.... niggas

And They De-modded This Nigga^ Forreal Doe, I Mean I Hope It Works Out But Honestly You Can't Lie And Tell Me This Site Is Alive Right Now.

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Originally Posted by Q~THE~DON~ (Post 1059091)
Bro ^^?? Tf?? Umm I remember your old alias fam. I sent you bars way back and you never replied. You were nice when you were battling too. I was only a rookie and was new to text battle's. If anything else if I'm not mistaken you were Versace guy. Or Indonesia. You two cats are always confusing. And yes you just are now seeing me this month due to a couple of Ban's that messed up my activity level and now I'm back and still like the site. IMO. We just need to stay active. Everything else will fall in place.

Honestly This Thread Is More For The Old Cats Who Have Put In Years Of Being Active In Hopes Of Getting A Better Website Out Of It Like We Were Promised Late 2006 (8 Years Ago!). I Encourage You New Cats To Keep Grinding But I Feel Like Someone's Gotta Be Like "Okay It's Dead" And Let's Fix It. Instead Of Just Sweeping It Under The Rug And Us Getting The "Oh The Showcase Was Poppin' And They'll Be A New One Soon", "Big Things Are Happening You'll Want To Stick Around", "I Know You Wanted A New Website With NEW FEATURES But Here's A Red Skin Instead", etc. Fuck Outta Here With That Bullshit Man.
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Originally Posted by stevevenom (Post 1059093)
yup . keep the faith ... I am always promoting the site on facebook , and also on twitter . tbh most on facebook suck bigtime , but trying to get them over here so they can elevate and learn . other sites I have seen similar to lb are either too confusing or too dead lol . LB can still be one of the best if it starts getting some regular traffic again .

Promote This Site For What? It's Beyond Dead And We Have A Huge Elephant In The Room About What's Actually Going On "Behind The Scenes". So They Can Wait Another 10 Years To Get New Features? It's Been Too Long.
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Originally Posted by EtH (Post 1059096)
I feel like a cunt about it all to be honest. Everything I was asking for is playing out, and I couldnt care less. Shit was just like 2 or 3 months past for me.

It's Playing Out But Not Really. I Mean The New Skin Was Bullshit, You Know You Could've Done It Given The Backend And Some Free Time. No Offense To NOBLE At All Cause He's Not Really The One Giving Orders Just Taking Them But This Was Bullshit. I Fucking Beta Tested FlyHipHop And To Just Have It Deleted? That's Fucking RETARDED. Shit Was Amazing And Had WAY More Potential Then The Site We're Currently Sitting At. It's A 2-3 Years Past For Me. It's Like Finding Out Detox Is Dropping And You Getting A Shitty 3 Track Mixtape With "Experimental" Dr. Dre Fusion With Dubstep But They Call It "Detox". Fuck Outta Here.

Evil Stew Beef 10-22-2014 10:37 PM

rest in piss

Wonderbred 10-22-2014 11:59 PM

Tbh this site is dying because all the people who are interested in battle rap go do their thing on Facebook and then weak ass sites like BBE get to them first because they have more social media presence. Not gonna lie, I joined LB because I googled "battle rap online" or something and it was the first thing that came up. For most people, they're gonna stick with the first site they go to. I couldn't become and active member on another site even if I tried because LB is just home to me now. I think it's actually possible to breathe some life back into this site if we take the same approach as dudes like Saurabh and get to the noobs before anyone else does.

Denton 10-23-2014 12:20 AM

well shiza

Babylon 10-23-2014 01:38 AM

I also got here from googling "battle rap online".

As long as we cater to those who are already interested in battling wrather than exposing ourselves to those who aren't, we will remain a stagnant piece of history within the battle rap community.


I don't think there's one person here who can say LB got them into battle rap.

Subreal 10-23-2014 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babylon (Post 1059138)
I also got here from googling "battle rap online".

As long as we cater to those who are already interested in battling wrather than exposing ourselves to those who aren't, we will remain a stagnant piece of history within the battle rap community.


I don't think there's one person here who can say LB got them into battle rap.

LB got me into battle rap, (srs) lol

Babylon 10-23-2014 02:46 AM

Well shit. :D

Phil Banks 10-23-2014 05:15 AM

ima mss the site for what it was........ but when dudes dont care bout they own shit an let it go like this really its on them.... pugz an whoever else work on the site or own it... have no sense of hustle shoulda been let one of us who gave a fuck whip the place in order but dudes are such terrible buisness heads they got no clue how to delegate the new site colors sucked after a day an thats the biggest improvment in years... they dont care bout the site an users feel the same way @ this point myself included


But as LB dies out I think we should get a lil group goin on FB or some shit jus to keep in touch an keep the music flowin cause even though LB dead ive made some friends here an their are artists here i feel a bit invested in who id wanna keep up with

lool to the LB owners guess its goood u didnt quit your dayjobs

Godbody 10-23-2014 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil Banks (Post 1059149)
ima mss the site for what it was........ but when dudes dont care bout they own shit an let it go like this really its on them.... pugz an whoever else work on the site or own it... have no sense of hustle shoulda been let one of us who gave a fuck whip the place in order but dudes are such terrible buisness heads they got no clue how to delegate the new site colors sucked after a day an thats the biggest improvment in years... they dont care bout the site an users feel the same way @ this point myself included


But as LB dies out I think we should get a lil group goin on FB or some shit jus to keep in touch an keep the music flowin cause even though LB dead ive made some friends here an their are artists here i feel a bit invested in who id wanna keep up with

lool to the LB owners guess its goood u didnt quit your dayjobs

facts ^...pretty much what I been sayin

ya'll dickridin ass LB groupies enable the admins to be on that lazy/delayed update shit...everytime I got on niggas for slackin i was the asshole & ppl would jump on me..'another one of these threads'...ya'll were enabling Pugz & the others the whole time by goin against what i was sayin and encouragin ppl to be patient and so on

its like when a kid does a bad job at something and the parents say 'good job billy'...ya'll enabled mediocrity and now ya'll are stuck with it and dealing with the ramifications

lets be realistic. aint no LB showcase bringin shit back to life. aint no LB showcase gonna make LB poppin. these are all fantasies carried out by people that have as much business sense as the shit I took earlier

& aint no rise in the popularity of battlin bringin ppl to LB... the age of internet battlin coincided with the age of chats... Yahoo, AIM, etc etc...that 'chatroom' era shit is dyin & online chatting shifted to Skype/Facetime or some type of video/audio chat

Mr-Felon 10-23-2014 12:10 PM

Letsbeef has been dead IMO for years i believe it died in 2011-2012 somewhere around there

J u s T C 10-23-2014 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godbody (Post 1059156)
facts ^...pretty much what I been sayin

ya'll dickridin ass LB groupies enable the admins to be on that lazy/delayed update shit...everytime I got on niggas for slackin i was the asshole & ppl would jump on me..'another one of these threads'...ya'll were enabling Pugz & the others the whole time by goin against what i was sayin and encouragin ppl to be patient and so on

its like when a kid does a bad job at something and the parents say 'good job billy'...ya'll enabled mediocrity and now ya'll are stuck with it and dealing with the ramifications

lets be realistic. aint no LB showcase bringin shit back to life. aint no LB showcase gonna make LB poppin. these are all fantasies carried out by people that have as much business sense as the shit I took earlier

& aint no rise in the popularity of battlin bringin ppl to LB... the age of internet battlin coincided with the age of chats... Yahoo, AIM, etc etc...that 'chatroom' era shit is dyin & online chatting shifted to Skype/Facetime or some type of video/audio chat

No. It's because people know it's a waste of their sincerity, time and energy. Don't insult people by classing them taking the hint as nothing other than enabling. The latter is just a (slight) consequence of the former.

Thats why you look like a complete and utter troll/wind up artist when you "kick up a fuss" .. At least to me.

I don't know how you can keep banging that drum and NOT be just trolling for a rise because it's pretty fucking obvious all the screaming, ranting and raving has never and will never make a blind bit of difference.

You got be a complete and utter wind up merchant, or extremely naive and slow on the uptake.

Which 1 is it?

Did you not know until this very moment I'm telling you that you're wasting you're breath?

Or you bandwagoning the issue to bait for lols and trolls?

Hubert Cumberdale 10-23-2014 01:40 PM

I don't want to be negative because I promised Pugz I wouldn't give him abuse as long as he did what what he said he would, and so far he has, so I won't diss him at all in this. I'll just say my personal thoughts on it.

Firstly, people are falling out of this. Back when I started there were loads of sites with loads of people. Now, essentially there is Letsbeef, Netcees and Body Bags Ent that actually have a sustainable about of traffic.

But that aside, LB could have evolved and grown along with the industry. As Student said, the first thing you have to do is blame @X about Fly Hip Hop. This was essentially "LB V4". It was a new site with a professionally made skin, with brand new features all pertaining to rap battling and the rap culture in general. I don't even know why he didn't go for it in the end, but why weren't those features added to LB? Instead he applied them to Rocbattle.

Actually, all in all it's down to X. X once hit me up after I said he didnt care about LB. He said this was his first site and that I was wrong. Within one year he wanted to close it down and Pugz said he'd take over. X obviously is busy in real life. Rocbattle was this big thing. Grammy award winning producer linking up with X. X was a hustler back then. Lil Flip being involved and everything. X was making moves. But look now. He sold Rocbattle and Beatdisk is absolutely nothing. He's just not into it and took too long to pass LB over.

Pugz didn't have the experience with the site to initially make moves, so we were stagnant for a long time. What was bad is that Pugz thought he could survive with the tournaments he was running. This didnt work because the users of the site had pretty much done EVERYTHING. We've all ran our own tournaments. We've done it all. So Pugz couldn't really just keep the site going with that because it'd already been done.

Two more big downsides were MFD and ClassicK. MFD's 2009 domination meant that there were NO crews being made by vets, and crews are a big incentive on the site for activity. The site was left without any of that rivalry for a long ass time. ClassicK had most of the active guys and every one of them were the friendly uninteresting kind of people, so the forums turned into a clusterfuck of guys being best buds and guys like me were turned away from actually coming onto them cause my interest in the forums were the heated rivalries from the 2008 days.

What Pugz needs to do to keep LB on top is treat it like a business. The event was a good start and is something which needs to be capitalized on. Think back to the X days at the start. He made connections with big name people, and I think Pugz once told me that X was a normal dude mainly posting on web design and javascript websites. He made all these connections from nowhere. Pugz done it with the live event, but it has to be branched out. Try and turn LB into some form of hip hop and rap battling social hub. Work on advertising with other events and stuff. Probably a forums revamp would be needed too.

J u s T C 10-23-2014 02:11 PM

A good start would be to get the crew battles working. I know they've been tested since pugz set up L.O.D Vs L.B G.

But they still have the old audio players which don't work anymore. It's like they gave up on it because they have no way to implement the current players into that arena.

If those were fixed I think myself and Eth....

(I know we're currently HoF mods but to put it bluntly I honestly couldn't give a flying fuck about wasting my time putting some old head who 9 times out of 10 doesn't even fuck with the site like that any more on a pedestal to be worshipped. In fact the HoF should be put on the back burner completely until more pressing matters are dealt with to move the site forward instead of looking backwards)

Could really kick crew rivalries back into gear.

Implement some form of awards/badges to go besides crew names for main 1 of tournaments.

And an accolades section on a crew and member pages listing both (the above) main annual crew wins as well as monthly/Bi Monthly crew wins. Shit you could even have these wins as part of a league where at the end of the year the crew with the most points wins.

You could even (maybe, It might not work well in practice) award every new member who acknowledges their welcome thread with a crew of their own.

You should have a system in place that not only tags them to it. Put a pop up with a link to said welcome thread encouraging to claim their free crew by posting inside it so you're not handing out crews to any tom dick harry or bot.

This would obviously be subject to some form of IP/cookie check.


Thats just a few and There's a ton of things you could do.

Costello Da Don 10-23-2014 11:56 PM

@MR-LETS-BEEF .. you died bro? lol

but um .. who's all these faces in here? unfamiliar asses.

Mindless 10-24-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Diego Jumanji (Post 1059176)
I don't want to be negative because I promised Pugz I wouldn't give him abuse as long as he did what what he said he would, and so far he has, so I won't diss him at all in this. I'll just say my personal thoughts on it.

Firstly, people are falling out of this. Back when I started there were loads of sites with loads of people. Now, essentially there is Letsbeef, Netcees and Body Bags Ent that actually have a sustainable about of traffic.

But that aside, LB could have evolved and grown along with the industry. As Student said, the first thing you have to do is blame @X about Fly Hip Hop. This was essentially "LB V4". It was a new site with a professionally made skin, with brand new features all pertaining to rap battling and the rap culture in general. I don't even know why he didn't go for it in the end, but why weren't those features added to LB? Instead he applied them to Rocbattle.

Actually, all in all it's down to X. X once hit me up after I said he didnt care about LB. He said this was his first site and that I was wrong. Within one year he wanted to close it down and Pugz said he'd take over. X obviously is busy in real life. Rocbattle was this big thing. Grammy award winning producer linking up with X. X was a hustler back then. Lil Flip being involved and everything. X was making moves. But look now. He sold Rocbattle and Beatdisk is absolutely nothing. He's just not into it and took too long to pass LB over.

Pugz didn't have the experience with the site to initially make moves, so we were stagnant for a long time. What was bad is that Pugz thought he could survive with the tournaments he was running. This didnt work because the users of the site had pretty much done EVERYTHING. We've all ran our own tournaments. We've done it all. So Pugz couldn't really just keep the site going with that because it'd already been done.

Two more big downsides were MFD and ClassicK. MFD's 2009 domination meant that there were NO crews being made by vets, and crews are a big incentive on the site for activity. The site was left without any of that rivalry for a long ass time. ClassicK had most of the active guys and every one of them were the friendly uninteresting kind of people, so the forums turned into a clusterfuck of guys being best buds and guys like me were turned away from actually coming onto them cause my interest in the forums were the heated rivalries from the 2008 days.

What Pugz needs to do to keep LB on top is treat it like a business. The event was a good start and is something which needs to be capitalized on. Think back to the X days at the start. He made connections with big name people, and I think Pugz once told me that X was a normal dude mainly posting on web design and javascript websites. He made all these connections from nowhere. Pugz done it with the live event, but it has to be branched out. Try and turn LB into some form of hip hop and rap battling social hub. Work on advertising with other events and stuff. Probably a forums revamp would be needed too.

This. Nobody who could do anything about the shit gave a fuck about this place until it was too late. And then the people who were here and gave a fuck the whole time get demoted for "inactivity" and because they "gave up." so they can try and fix the mess that others were telling them was going on the whole time. Too little too late imo.


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