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Is this against the rules?

No cuz I'm a mod Jesus rant ..... Mods can IM About battles the same as you can IM us battles ....

X-Calibur
Mods can IM about battles rant
Jeaus you dont give up on trying to get me out the job do you ?
6:23pmX-Calibur
One minute you want me too ban someone next you wanna get me banned ??
I dont get this relationship your trying to establish with me ??
6:25pmX-Calibur
You got nothing to say?
How you ever gunna make a mod when no one can trust you as it woukd appear as soon as any kevel of trust is built your as quick to pull a knofe and stab im in the back no sooner have they turned they back
6:27pmRant
How is pointing out that you are breaking site rules a breach of trust?
ods are not allowed to IM members to vote on THEIR OWN BATTLES.
Yes, you may be allowed to PROMOTE battles, such as tournaments, or slept on battle.s
But you are NOT allowed to advertise your own via PM, or IM.
How can you be a mod, if you clearly do not understand the site rules?
6:28pmRant
Mods* Battles.*
6:28pmX-Calibur
Here we go ....
Link me to these rukes then please
Rules
6:29pmRant
No thanks.
X-Calibur
I can tell you in the staff baord in the rukes stated for mods there is no mention of that rule onviously if i was asking you to vote for me thats different then sure im in the wrong
6:32pmX-Calibur
With that said im removing your thread
9:35pmRant
I'll just open it again.
Closing that thread is an abuse of power.
I'll be sending this conversation to NOBLE, too.
If that action is taken by you.
6:33pmX-Calibur
OMG you have got serious issues
X-Calibur
OMG you have got serious issues
6:33pmX-Calibur
Would you like me to screen shotbthe staff rules for you
Screen shot*
To satisfy you
9:36pmRant
No, I would like for you to allot my thread the views it deserves by other staff, in order to calm this issue.
6:34pmX-Calibur
Calm it ???
9:37pmRant
Yes.
If it is not against the rules.
As you claim, then other staff with confirm that.
6:34pmX-Calibur
Why isnt it calm?
9:37pmRant
If it is against the rules, then the necessary action will be taken.
It's as simple as that.
will.U*
6:35pmX-Calibur
Ooo dear rant
9:37pmRant
Will.*
6:35pmX-Calibur
You ate like the little tell tale kid at school eryone hated
But thats fine ...
6:36pmX-Calibur
Im not sweating it
Another pathetic attempt by you to try get me de-modded
6:36pmX-Calibur
You ever going to learn its probably not going to happen ...

lol no you cant

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Wow mods pming for votes thats low

yo @Jason , are you allowed to promote open battles on facebook? jw for xcal he seems to not be 100% about that either

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Originally Posted by FiNAL WoRD (Post 1052039)

yo @Jason , are you allowed to promote open battles on facebook? jw for xcal he seems to not be 100% about that either

proof? haha

Do you know what fuck it I resign .... @NOBLE de-mod me @Pugz de-mod me

This is ridiculous the dude rant was telling me how he just made FVC and he was trying to get lots of votes in by end of month ...

I tag him in the FVC thread with the battle I dropped

Then I drop him a friendly IM saying I got a battle open if he was still voting as he seemed to be trying to get loads of votes in .... But go ahead

Ban me I'll keepy money I was putting up for y'all for the GC I'll get my money back I input in the live event for y'all !!!!

I'll take my ideas and leave and stop pushing y'all for progress ..

@Rant you win bro

But just to clarify what I read getting my mod spot ....

1. DO NOT LIFT ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER'S BAN OR INFRACTIONS WITHOUT CONSULTING THEM FIRST.
If you feel like another staff member has wrongfully issued a ban or infraction, approach that member first and try to sort it out. If that member is unavailable, then bring it to one of the Head Mods or admins.

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Originally Posted by Mindless (Post 644296)

Do not lift another moderators bans or infractions without consulting them first. Nobody on this staff is banning or giving out infractions without a legitimate reason so there's absolutely no reason to lift someone else's temp ban or infractions without consulting them first. When you do this you're undermining that moderators authority as well as your own because you're making it seem like that mods ban or infraction was actually unfair and if one of us looks bad we all look bad by association. If you really think one of the other mods is really guilty of impropriety then you need to come to me or X about it. I seriously doubt that's the case after we did that staff cleanup a while back. If a member comes to you complaining then go to the mod that gave it to them and if you don't agree with them then come to me. We can't have the members playing politics with the staff. It's not a good look.

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Originally Posted by Miqueas (Post 701385)

If someone is caught veto'ing or overruling a staff decision without evidence or proof to the contrary modship will be revoked.

SOURCES: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103519; http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95252

2. DO NOT EXPOSE THE MULTI ACCOUNTS OF FELLOW STAFF MEMBERS.
Staff members use multi accounts for various reasons. If you find out that a staff member is using an alternate account, do not expose them publicy. If they are using it improperly, take it up with a Head Mod or admin.

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Originally Posted by Pugz (Post 734464)

I strongly suggest if you have any suspicions of fellow staff that you come to me or mindless or your audio/text supervisor before doing anything else... We allow staff to have multiple accounts to catch cheaters etc... I have trust and faith in you guys not to fuck around

SOURCE: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108016

3. DO NOT MODERATE YOUR OWN BATTLES/TRACKS/CYPHERS.
This includes deleting completed battles (battles that have received votes or have closed), deleting comments or votes/rates. You can always get another staff member to look at it so that no one accuses you of partiality. The same thing applies to your multi accounts if you have any. DO NOT moderate your own stuff.

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Originally Posted by Krhyme Killz (Post 828139)

going forward...i think we need to get a different mod to see if comments need deleting..and certainly to decide whether or not to infract if its a personal situation...

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Originally Posted by Pugz (Post 334060)

Okay a lot of things have been brought to my attention in the past few hours... some of which concerns me deeply... Mods you need to reassess the reasons you are mods and what your position on this site is.. If you are on LetsBeef to make a name for yourself and get heard... and you became a mod to assist you in doing that... You became a mod for ALL the wrong reasons... I dont think i need to tell you have removing votes and such from your own battles would look to others... You need to treat these situations like you would with your real job... ie... When someone needs to split a bill from the cash register.. most companies prefer it if you get one of your co workers to change it for you so you dont look like your stealing... Same shit applies here.. if you have a problem with a vote or what not on your battle you need to get ANOTHER mod to rectify the situation... Please refer to the post my brothers posted about blocking people it will put a stop to a lot of the bull shit votes.

Furthermore... I wanna say that incidents between mods should be dealt with, within our circle.. If you make a huge deal about it publicly, it is really detrimental to our image (AND YOURS), and what we stand for. Please handle your responsibilities with a level of professionalism and maturity... I have no qualms about removing everything that was posted on the site that is making us look bad, and removing those involved.. So please handle this responsibility with class or ask me to remove you from modship.

Pugz

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Originally Posted by Pugz (Post 334074)

If you have a battle... and you think somethings not right.. you should get another un biased mod to check it out for you.. tell me to check it out for you, i will... bottom line. When you edit your own shit no one will think your being honest.

SOURCES: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120512; http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107365; http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49539

4. DO NOT EXPOSE ANY MEMBER'S PERSONAL INFORMATION.
Being staff members makes us privy to a lot of people's personal information. DO NOT expose anyone's IP address, email, DOB, or any other information that they have not made public on their own profile. This is a serious offence and doing so could lead to being removed from staff.

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Originally Posted by X (Post 116468)

Please don't expose anyones IP addresses on the site, it's against our Privacy policy (we could get in legal trouble for it). If you have in any threads, please edit them.

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Originally Posted by Pugz (Post 734444)

Exposing users personal information i.e. Facebook photos, name etc... Is not condoned or recommended by LetsBeef.com... If this happens and the party involved doesn't wish to have their info posted on LB... Administration will remove it and give the other party a warning.. If that party continues to post personal information... It may result in a permanent ban from the site...

I know this is a beef site and shit can get heated.. but remember.. this is the internet... online beef doesn't need to get personal ;)...

SOURCES: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19788; http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108015

5. DO NOT ISSUE PERMA-BANS THROUGH THE MOD CP. ONLY ISSUE PERMA-BANS VIA INFRACTIONS. WHEN MODERATING BATTLES WITH SELF VOTES, REMOVE ALL OTHER VOTES BUT DO NOT REMOVE THE VOTE FROM THE MULTI ACCOUNT.
In the past, we've had mods who issued bans through the mod cp in a way where it went undetected, and they were often for frivolous reasons. Going forward, we must only issue bans/perma bans through infractions. Also, when dealing with battles with self votes, if you issue an auto-win, you may remove EVERY other vote except the votes from the actual multi-account. The reason is that we need it doucumented so that it still remains in the "Check for Cheating" log and elsewhere. If you have any questions about whether someone has been punished for an instance of self-voting or not, ask myself or another admin.

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Originally Posted by Mindless (Post 842125)

Firstly, let's be clear that all punishments are to be implemented through the infraction system. It's the best way to keep track of who's done what and to make sure that punishments are escalated properly. I've just added an infraction for ban evasion as well so when people start using or making side accounts to get around being banned be sure to use that on the main account.

Another thing is that when someone is caught voting for themselves don't delete the votes. Just lower the multi-accounts vote power to zero and re-rank the battle. If you delete the votes then you delete the record of them being there (Outside of the Admin Record that shows us what you do.) and that's not what we want to be doing. Lower the MA vote power to zero, rerank and permaban the MA. It saves us trouble down the line if someone else has to go back and look at/for something involved with that ban.

Make sure your perma-banning multi accounts and not just setting them for a really long time.

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Originally Posted by Revan (Post 700587)

If someone votes for thereself, make sure you give the auto-win to there opponent.

Delete ALL votes for the said cheater, and leave a comment saying WHY this battle was an auto-win for there opponent.

This applies to all the offences in the thread title.

1/

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Originally Posted by Mindless (Post 700615)

One little change. If they voted for themselves leave that single vote for them so that we still have that vote there for reference.

SOURCES: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122078 ; http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103413

6. DO NOT CHANGE NAMES/THREAD TITLES UNLESS THE PERSON HAS ASKED FOR IT.
Unless the name is something racist, sexist, or otherwise offensive, DO NOT change people's names or thread titles to ridicule them or settle some personal score. That is abusing your mod powers.

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Originally Posted by Mindless (Post 778817)

Under NO circumstances are name changes to be implemented unless the user asks for it, they use the name of an established artist or it's an inappropriate name. This goes for thread titles as well. Unless the thread title is inappropriate somehow or the user requests it then leave it the hell alone.

SOURCE: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113864

7. DO NOT ALTER BATTLES OR ISSUE PENALTIES ON BATTLES THAT ARE OVER 1 YEAR OLD.
If you come across a battle where someone self-voted years ago, for example, it may not show whether or not they've been punished. Some people were punished before the infraction system was put into place. If you are unsure whether or not someone has been punished, ask myself or another admin as we can look at their ban history. DO NOT issue punishments or alter battles (delete votes, assign auto-wins, etc) on battles that are over a year old.

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Originally Posted by Pugz (Post 729992)

As of today we will no longer be going back to the beginning of records to penalize, change or alter users battles... Users can only be penalized for battles as far back as 1 year... The same goes for users who wish to have their battles looked at for hate votes etc.. You have 1 year to bring the situation to us.. After that we will not be accepting them... (This goes into affect today)

SOURCES: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?p=729992 ; http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107466

8. WE MAY RAISE THE VP OF GOOD VOTERS BUT DO NOT RAISE IT TO STAFF LEVEL UNLESS THEY ARE STAFF.
If you find someone consistently voting exceptionally, you may raise their vp beyond the full vp for regular members (2) at your own discretion. However, please do not raise any member's vp to staff level (5, or 6).

SOURCE: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=125652

9. DO NOT REMOVE ANY THREADS FROM THE STAFF FORUMS..
In the past, threads have been deleted particularly in the the "Multiple Accounts" section where a mod was trying to keep the multi account of his friend from being known to other mods. That type of behavior is unacceptable. Everything in the staff forums is important, even the discussions, and we need to be able to look through and revisit them at a later date. Please do not delete any threads in the staff forums.

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Originally Posted by NOBLE (Post 932175)

Do not delete any threads from the staff forums. We should have nothing to hide from one another, and deleting threads in here is not a good look. I'm not calling anyone out in specific, I'm just saying.

SOURCE: http://www.letsbeef.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132872

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Originally Posted by X-Calibur (Post 1052041)

:drizz:

Shit's harmless tbh.

Point is I never really asked to be a mod I'm clearly terrible at it I don't want it I can't be fucked to try help you whining as faggots out ...

I try do a dude a favour and he just stabs me in the back

Imma leave this in @NOBLEs hands cuz I can't be deinf with this pack of x-cal haters ...

Actually fuck it let's bring in the rest of the crew out for my blood ....

@Punk
@FiNAL WoRD
@Rant
@Jason
@DJ Denton

No one is out for blood. I simply do not know whether your actions are against the rules. Despite assuming so, I left the decision up to the rest of the staff, by creating this thread.

HAHA blnk he put me as 2nd hater

Laws Jesus it's a fire

I fucking HATE how Denton NEVER deals with this shit. You're a fucking admin. Quit being a little pussy and drop your fucking opinion.

Anyways, while defending X-Cal a lot, you DO need to know the rules mate. Isn't this what you got banned for last time? You can't, and this goes back to 2006, in ANY shape or form, EVER ask someone to check your battle, battle thread or anything else, unless that person is a staff member.

What he did is against the rules and nothing justifies it, but I'm not the one who fucking modded him. I'm leaving it at that

Check your inbox davey

Jason is right to a degree, but at the same time I get where X-Cal is coming from as Rant has just become an FVC member and was saying he wanted to vote on as many battles as he could before September rolls around...

Obviously he could have simply posted his battle in the FVC thread, which he also did, but reached out to Rant because of the situation.

Honestly, you technically shouldn't have done it @X-Calibur and maybe there are some rules that need to be clarified as well, but this also does seem like a low move on Rant's part.... like do you really wanna be a mod that bad, dude? I see your constant #Rant4mod's you throwin' out in the forums.

It's one thing to ask questions and maybe X shouldn't be a mod if he's handling this the way he seems to be as Jason pointed out... but you seem to be going about it like a dick. You obviously could have PM'd NOBLE or another mod instead of pulling this shit....

Loads of people have been banned before for this VERY situation. That's all I'm going to say.

What a day you had, Cal.

It's a rule that could be looked at again. Lock and Grizz fell victim to it, but the reason their ban was justified is because they knew the rules. It's always been like this and they'd both seen it happen to others, as is the situation with X-Cal. Not that I'm calling for him to be banned, that's down to the mods and admins, but even though we could perhaps change the rule slightly, especially in 2014 when the cheaters are nearly all gone, but the rules pretty clear cut.

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Originally Posted by remarK (Post 1052060)

You're right. I should keep cheating to myself. :rolleyes:

Edit:

Anyway, I told Illokwent that I wouldn't engage you, so, I won't.

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Originally Posted by remarK (Post 1052060)

Oh yeah, and #Rant4Mod.

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Originally Posted by Rant (Post 1052064)

You're right. I should keep cheating to myself. :rolleyes:

Edit:

Anyway, I told Illokwent that I wouldn't engage you, so, I won't.

That's not what I said and I see you edited your post now lol

Reading will be one of the first things you should master before becoming a mod. I'm not saying what you're doin is wrong. I'm speaking on the way you went about it.

If anyone should be reinstated as a mod right now it's Jason.

http://i.imgur.com/xdzcViJ.jpg

LITERALLY mfw reading this thread because I was alerted that I was quoted in here.

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Originally Posted by remarK (Post 1052067)

Where the fuck did you come from? lol

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Originally Posted by Mindless (Post 1052069)

http://i.imgur.com/xdzcViJ.jpg

LITERALLY mfw reading this thread because I was alerted that I was quoted in here.

You look like FeelGood's creepy uncle.

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Originally Posted by remarK (Post 1052067)

Cool.

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Originally Posted by Rant (Post 1052071)

You look like FeelGood's creepy uncle.

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Cool.

It's because I don't sleep, have a deviated septum and molest copious amounts of female great apes at the zoo. It could happen to anybody buddy.

Mindless = The lovechild of Kenny Power's brother and Napoleon Dynamite's brother.

http://www.screencraft.org/wp-conten...2405940751.jpg

+

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...p_Dynamite.jpg

Dave is just jealous he doesn't have bo-staff skills like me.

Also, let's not derail this particular thread since it's actually about something that might be important. Or we can continue to talk about how I look like the guy that stalks your mom (She needs to move her TV six inches to the left btw. The glare is starting to hurt my eyes through the window). Either way is fine with me.

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Originally Posted by Mindless (Post 1052073)

It's because I don't sleep, have a deviated septum and molest copious amounts of female great apes at the zoo. It could happen to anybody buddy.

Let's be realistic.... There can't be THAT many female great apes to molest.

Edit:

I agree, though, back on topic.

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Originally Posted by Rant (Post 1052076)

Let's be realistic.... There can't be THAT many female great apes to molest.

Sometimes I bang the lesser apes. The capuchin monkey's are feisty but I ply them with fruit I soaked in vodka.

If you in fact DO have bo-staff skills then yes sir, I AM jealous.

On topic, I don't think X-Cal is a bad dude at all. IDK if he should be a mod though. He should have another title or something with some sort of staff equivalent level of authority or something w/o the CP. IDK if that even makes sense but I know what I mean and that's all that matters.

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Originally Posted by Rant (Post 1052071)

You look like FeelGood's creepy uncle.

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Lmaooooo